Is it me or PSE/GFE means nothing these days?

[Juugs]

Maybe I’m the one wrong who’s completely wrong, but a decade ago, GFE was very clear; girlfriend experience. It was basically like an encounter with your girlfriend with protected sex of course. DFK, BBJ, and a sensual touch were par of the course. For the last one, it heavily depended on the provider because not all were good at it.

PSE was a bit more ambiguous, but it was generally understood as being a more "naughty" experience like you would get sleeping with a pornstar. Most of the time, this was like a GFE but more extreme with things such as deepthroat, bs&l, dirty talk, MSOG, and often anal. It was a pornstar experience as the name entailed. Protected intercourse, as always.

In the past few years, however, those acronyms lost all their meanings. I’ve seen girls advertise PSE where it’s everything covered, no kissing, absolutely nothing but a vanilla experience that doesn’t even qualify as GFE. It’s like all those new providers got into the business without knowing how it worked and advertised a bunch of services they had no idea what they meant.

I find it quite irritating because now I have to clarify the services offered before arranging a meeting as there is often miscommunication. She says PSE and you inquire further, only to realize it isn’t PSE at all.

Am I onto something? Perhaps it has always been like that and I just noticed now. I don’t want to sound like an old man reminiscing about the good ol’ days, but I feel service was far more consistent and the acronyms meant something back then. Today, it’s a free for all and a bit of a mess.

 

[happyfranc]

things went downhill after 2019. there's way more clients now and noticeably fewer providers.
many providers would not have even made a roster a decade ago, but the talent pool is just so much smaller these days.
rates keep increasing and the newer clients are gladly paying it regardless, so the providers just have no incentive to improve.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Onlyfans and other platform like it hijacked the sex business. As the above post, less girls but way more clients. Many girls are doing OnlyFans and some do both so got another source of income. They do not want to escort unless it is for a high price and are less interested to give GFE because of that other source of income.

 

[happyfranc]

another issue is that client expectations have gotten really low.
this is not offered, that is not offered, bad attitudes, scheduling issues, but still 10/10.
the only way for things to improve is increased standards, on both the client and provider side.
unfortunately, things seem to be trending in the opposite direction

 

[Charlie Smart]

Regardless of what terms the independents or agencies use to describe themselves or the ladies, it is up to us to do research to ensure, the best we are able, whether are expectations/desires can be met.

 

[urquell]

Maybe I’m the one wrong who’s completely wrong, but a decade ago, GFE was very clear; girlfriend experience. It was basically like an encounter with your girlfriend with protected sex of course. DFK, BBJ, and a sensual touch were par of the course. For the last one, it heavily depended on the provider because not all were good at it.

PSE was a bit more ambiguous, but it was generally understood as being a more "naughty" experience like you would get sleeping with a pornstar. Most of the time, this was like a GFE but more extreme with things such as deepthroat, bs&l, dirty talk, MSOG, and often anal. It was a pornstar experience as the name entailed. Protected intercourse, as always.

In the past few years, however, those acronyms lost all their meanings. I’ve seen girls advertise PSE where it’s everything covered, no kissing, absolutely nothing but a vanilla experience that doesn’t even qualify as GFE. It’s like all those new providers got into the business without knowing how it worked and advertised a bunch of services they had no idea what they meant.

I find it quite irritating because now I have to clarify the services offered before arranging a meeting as there is often miscommunication. She says PSE and you inquire further, only to realize it isn’t PSE at all.

Am I onto something? Perhaps it has always been like that and I just noticed now. I don’t want to sound like an old man reminiscing about the good ol’ days, but I feel service was far more consistent and the acronyms meant something back then. Today, it’s a free for all and a bit of a mess.

Yes, you're right, the acronyms are meaningless now, because what was generally understand to be the case in terms of an offering before is now basically just marketing terms to attract clients without any real meaning behind them. As you say, you now still have to confirm every little thing, and definitions of what is what vary ridiculously now, often having nothing to do with what was the accepted meaning before. It's not really that you're onto something, and it's not exactly new, but it has been progressively getting worse over the last few years.

 

[talkinghead]

As a footnote to all this, I really hate asking an SP about her "menu." It not only seems iffy in terms of the rules of the game, since an SP is theoretically only providing her time/companionship, but it also feels crude.

 

[MichelleMontreal]

Maybe I’m the one wrong who’s completely wrong, but a decade ago, GFE was very clear; girlfriend experience. It was basically like an encounter with your girlfriend with protected sex of course. DFK, BBJ, and a sensual touch were par of the course. For the last one, it heavily depended on the provider because not all were good at it.

PSE was a bit more ambiguous, but it was generally understood as being a more "naughty" experience like you would get sleeping with a pornstar. Most of the time, this was like a GFE but more extreme with things such as deepthroat, bs&l, dirty talk, MSOG, and often anal. It was a pornstar experience as the name entailed. Protected intercourse, as always.

If it helps, I definitely have no clear understanding of the difference between GFE and PSE, while I offer both

To be fair, I get a lot of inquiries where neither acronym is used. But also many that seem to contradict the above definition like: "I'm looking for a real GFE experience where we can truly make a connection while I ram my dick into your ass hard and fast, and then cum in your mouth". I mean, it sounds like a great time but I'm pretty sure you're coming to me because your girlfriend will not do that.
So, I've settled in my mind that GFE is just that; it's what you wish your girlfriend would do, and PSE is just generally more acrobatic. Either way I just try to go with the flow. ¯\_(ツ)_/

 

[Mandouke]

Usually, when I meet a provider I have a clear understanding of what I would consider to be a GFE, often times their understanding is different.

I, too, do not like discussing the details with a SP of what constitutes a GFE. I have no interest in PSE.