False gfe advertising

[DenisZim]

GFE means: LFK, DFK, BBBJ, DATY and covered FS. I am just starting to get back into the hobby after a hiatus. I hope it hasn't changed that much.
And now the ladies grab the cash upfront? I only do outcall, so I hope I will be pleasantly surprised.
Tor

Hello,
Just to advise you about the new reality for outcalls (I will never try this again).
1. They ask for proof of address.
2. They ask for 50 to 100 deposit upfront.
3. On my first experience the girl just took the deposit and disappeared, so now I trust only MERB forums.
4. Above mentioned point 3 is not applicable for trusted and well reviewed SP here.
Regards,

 

[Jacobisrael]

Hello,
Just to advise you about the new reality for outcalls (I will never try this again).
1. They ask for proof of address.
2. They ask for 50 to 100 deposit upfront.
3. On my first experience the girl just took the deposit and disappeared, so now I trust only MERB forums.
4. Above mentioned point 3 is not applicable for trusted and well reviewed SP here.
Regards,

Oh 1000% to avoid on leolist. It’s actually one of the easiest scams to do that anyone here could do. Post a fake ad and ask for deposit and voila at least 50 bucks. I would avoid it if it’s not an established agency or indépendant

 

[UncleBob]

GFE term in the "hobby" defines a standard that includes minimum services with no possible interpretation (DFK, BBBJ, DATY).
I think it was created many years ago on a now defunct forums called the Red book or something like that.

Today LL and EI SP's just do their own interpretation of GFE as in real life, GFE definition can be very large but in the Hobby it is very precisely defined.
Most SP knows the standard GFE services, but they will still use the term in their ad or Check the "GFE" flag (EI) and once the client paid, they will not provide the standard GFE pretending that for them, No Kiss, CBJ and No Daty is still GFE FOR THEM... This is a lure as said by others. Not a good way to make loyal clients indeed.
Also, many will say: YES I offer all these services. But once paid, all GFE services become Extra cost.

I would say DFK, BBBJ is the most important part of the standard GFE...
No Kiss = NO GFE
No BBBJ = NO GFE
Simple.

An SP that wants to offer a GFE service for real will say "Full GFE"... Usually Full GFE is the real thing but still not garantee...

Now I always ask if a real GFE service is offered and I list the services DFK, BBBJ, DATY... Even if GFE is mentionned in the AD.

Answers I receive these days are:
- Yes I do GFE but no Kiss and/or no bbbj and/or no daty. (I appreciate this answer as it avoid disappointment at the incall...)
- No (At least, it's honnest)
- Yes I offer all these (But once there and paid, No more GFE, Scam. This is quite popular unfortunately)
- My rates are... Yes I offer all these services (But once there and paid, all GFE services become extra cost. Now I have to ask if the Rates include GFE services)
- I offer a complete GFE for $$ HH, $$$ H. BBBJ is $$$$ extra. (Not GFE at the basic price but no surprise at least... I pass my turn on these usually)

It may happen once in a while, the lady or pimp will Say yes, Full GFE offered and once paid, no gfe at all but even then, the lady is still quite fantastic... But this is rare. And I still will not repeat.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I don't know who you guys are contacting but my colleagues and I are offering actual GFE. And we don't have pimps.

 

[DenisZim]

I don't know who you guys are contacting but my colleagues and I are offering actual GFE. And we don't have pimps.

Hello,
I completely trust you.
Our comments are mostly related to LL advertising. In my case I found MERB only before an year.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

There are so many threads like this complaining about leolist ads, it's getting redundant.. it's not cute to openly admit you see girls who have pimps. Also what isn't shown here is that a lot of these girls do offer GFE but their rates are very low so they offer it as an extra. It makes sense, specially if they're high volume providers.

 

[LC18]

I am sorry, I know this will sound very elitist and privileged but looking for a provider on LL is like buying a ticket for your favourite artist off Facebook marketplace…

You might find some honest resellers but there’s a lot of scammers. LL is the same, you might find some honest providers but there’s a lot of scammers, why take the risk only to be complaining on here?

 

[CLOUD 500]

I don't know who you guys are contacting but my colleagues and I are offering actual GFE. And we don't have pimps.

Outside of Merb, non GFE service is the norm. No DFK and no BBBJ.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

Outside of Merb, non GFE service is the norm. No DFK and no BBBJ.

So, now that it's known, why are there complaints?

 

[Rebaynia]

The emotional realism of the GFE doesn’t mean suspending all protective measures, the connection can feel genuine while still following essential rules.

This is what GFE has meant and always meant to me. And when I first started, was advertised by the agency as GFE, not because of bbbj, but because of the emotional connection people feel with me.

I feel it necessary to clarify safe GFE because it is protected. Being with someone you can feel close to is more gf experience, then the cold list of acronyms that it is being portrayed as.

Mind you I make that clear before the booking is finalized and an appointment is made.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I think my point is there's a thread like this that pops up constantly.. in my opinion if you're not happy about something, its time to change the way you're doing things, or modify your expectations, unless you absolutely have no choice.

 

[maymay]

Hi people,

I have been in the hobby for more than 10 years and I noticed that the word gfe is being used loosely especially for the last 5 years.I remember at the time it used to mean dfk, bbbj. At the time I use to never see the term safe gfe. Some would even mention non gfe, which I respect a lot more. I don’t mind girls putting non gfe ( I’ve seen some and that was fine). I’m wondering why do some insist on putting gfe on their ad when it’s not the case. I rarely hear of a gf that would do bj with a condom (although I’m sure that happens but most likely really rare). What do you think? I think there’s no point of mentioning gfe if that is not the case. Thankfully with experience I’m able to dodge most false advertising. I would also like too thank honest SPs whether they offer gfe or not
Thanks

Its all done to attract new clients, I dealth with this so many times before and after my last relationship. Ferrari advertised GFE all SP, then you get an sp that does everything protected CBJ, no daty no kissing, and i was like WTF is GFE then, paied 240$ for that. Of course this leaves you frustrated on top of the mecanical service you get.

The worse was Valeria (Lorie, and regular name change.) she had a body to die for but did absolutely nothing, she did incall in St Therese at one time and also in Terrebonne.

Her add changed she was now GFE, so i message the booker at St Therese and she said yes. Ok i book her for 1h, get there, she had her new implants, so no don't touch they are sensible, no kissing, take out the condom right away to give a CBJ, held her hands on my chest during missionary, and held the condom while doing cowgirl. WOW i message the booker and she told me well she might not have been feeling well that day.

False advertisement are made to attract new customers, because bookers and SP know that a client will rarely turn back and refuse them when the session as started. Its cheap, it sucks but that is the way it goes.

This is why when i find a good SP i stick with her, i know she is going to give me a great service and i won't have to deal with this shit and frustration etc.

 

[DenisZim]

I am sorry, I know this will sound very elitist and privileged but looking for a provider on LL is like buying a ticket for your favourite artist off Facebook marketplace…

You might find some honest resellers but there’s a lot of scammers. LL is the same, you might find some honest providers but there’s a lot of scammers, why take the risk only to be complaining on here?

Hello,
Thank you for your comment.
It will sound the same if me and you start a conversation about IAS Plus and PCAOB.
Its much simple than you think. Imagine that something bad will happen far away from here. This event will make you sad and at that moment you will need to hold a hand. You will go on google and write escort GFE. LL will be one of the first results. Right now reading MERBs forums gives me much more information and better protection.