i have notice that alot of guys on this forum and other forums get mad when they dont get the option they were looking for when they go see a mp. i know it might be case of ymmv but is it right to ask the girl before hand.. i think alot of us knew the places where the top option is offer or not. so when i check out new places i want to ask the girl before but it does not feel right to me. i have been to a few places where they will tell you that the options price range from 40 to 80 so you kinda figure out the top option but then they are other places where its 40 to 100 and the top option is not what you were thinking so its kinda confusing. i have been to places where the girls will just ask you what you want and i kinda like that. i know some guys like to go with the flow and dont want to discuss options before hand but if you are looking for something specif is it ok to ask before. what do you guys think
Is it ok to ask the girl about her options during introduction
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I dont easily get offended but John, your last comment really did... Sometimes people say things that make me ashamed of being a man and make me understand why some women are bitter and have little faith in men...
Here's a quote of what you just posted that irritates the fuck out of me : " many start with the bullshit of 120-140
I mean hey we can tell quality and few even sdesereve the 100 never mind the 140 "
Who the hell are you to judge that 120-140 is bullshit and that they DESERVE ... DESERVE .... DESERVE 100 ... Seriously dude, do you know what it means that these girls have to receive or go to meet men that may be monstrous, smelly, disrespectful, etc ... Obviously they must meet some good ones too. But part of their job is to spread their legs to anyone who pays for it. Good or bad ..
Who are you to determine for them what price is acceptable and what price is BULLSHIT ... And we're not even talking about a big variant in price.. you speak of prices between 100 and 140 . Its just disgusting the way you speak and shows a lot about how you respect women.. But jamming 100's of dollars in a loto quebec vlc machine.. no problem. But the girl you just called for or went to see is quoting you BULLSHIT prices.. WOW WOW WOW..
There have been many discussions on this board about what sp's / mp's charge and what some find expensive and what some find fair. And all those discussions were almost all done very respectfully. But its basically your wording that kinda really disturbs be. It really speaks mountains about what kind of person you must really be.
This board is in place to discuss about anything related to this hobby. But I think we are very or extremely lucky with the amount, the quality of women we have here. And with the luck of having options included in the services they offer that are above and beyond what used to be the norm in Montreal 20 years ago. And prices... well I think they haven't really budged in the last 10-15 years in Montreal whereas prices in equally developed countries are 5 to 10 times higher and cities like Toronto , Calgary and Vancouver at double and triple the price.
So i think the women that work in this industry deserve our respect. Even when we are in front of a computer screen typing.
PS.. sorry for this rant. Maybe im having an off day but John's post really ticked me off.
Here's a quote of what you just posted that irritates the fuck out of me : " many start with the bullshit of 120-140
I mean hey we can tell quality and few even sdesereve the 100 never mind the 140 "
Who the hell are you to judge that 120-140 is bullshit and that they DESERVE ... DESERVE .... DESERVE 100 ... Seriously dude, do you know what it means that these girls have to receive or go to meet men that may be monstrous, smelly, disrespectful, etc ... Obviously they must meet some good ones too. But part of their job is to spread their legs to anyone who pays for it. Good or bad ..
Who are you to determine for them what price is acceptable and what price is BULLSHIT ... And we're not even talking about a big variant in price.. you speak of prices between 100 and 140 . Its just disgusting the way you speak and shows a lot about how you respect women.. But jamming 100's of dollars in a loto quebec vlc machine.. no problem. But the girl you just called for or went to see is quoting you BULLSHIT prices.. WOW WOW WOW..
There have been many discussions on this board about what sp's / mp's charge and what some find expensive and what some find fair. And all those discussions were almost all done very respectfully. But its basically your wording that kinda really disturbs be. It really speaks mountains about what kind of person you must really be.
This board is in place to discuss about anything related to this hobby. But I think we are very or extremely lucky with the amount, the quality of women we have here. And with the luck of having options included in the services they offer that are above and beyond what used to be the norm in Montreal 20 years ago. And prices... well I think they haven't really budged in the last 10-15 years in Montreal whereas prices in equally developed countries are 5 to 10 times higher and cities like Toronto , Calgary and Vancouver at double and triple the price.
So i think the women that work in this industry deserve our respect. Even when we are in front of a computer screen typing.
PS.. sorry for this rant. Maybe im having an off day but John's post really ticked me off.
If saying what I did earlier gets me some time off the board so be it. This is not about a difference of opinion. We're not reviewing electronics, cars, restaurants or movies here. This is a business about people. And in my opinion, you have a very low opinion about the women that cater to our needs. Just couldnt keep it in.
So mods, if anything i've said is out of line, i'll take the punishment. I certainly don't regret it.
So mods, if anything i've said is out of line, i'll take the punishment. I certainly don't regret it.
I don't mean to be disrespectful SC, but you're comment sounds worst than what you are critisizing John for. If you were trying to play Good vs. Evil, well... Your Good is flawed.
McFly
I agree with TheDon, but usually I ask before the meeting if there's any extras and what would be the price range. I'm not going into more details then that. When we meet, we converse for a few minutes, to get to know each other. And when I know whom I'm dealing with, I may ask about the restrictions and extras. Sometime I don't bother at all.
McFly
McFly , the way I worded it was done purposely. In the crass manner that John perceives these ladies.
Space Cadet , I don't understand whats your problem, It's pretty obvious that John S black was simply doing his best to answer Drew6987's question.
You on the other hand are on the attack.
As for the subjet of 100$ max, I also agree that compared to the market, charging more than 100$ for an MP is a little steep.
When we go at a a FS MP, we alwready paid 50 for the massage, (We all know that in fact we are paying for the room...)
If you compare with private incalls, the rate is generaly from 140$ to 180$ but these lady's pay rent &/or booking fees.
Outcalls charge generaly 180$ 200$ , they also pay for booker & driver, since they go to you, they also have at least 1/2 hour extra time for each client.
On top of that most FS Mp's will pass half the time pretending to massage you & then just spend the last 15-20 actualy giving you one quick SOG compared to INCALL & OUTCALL that in most cases will give you 2 services in that same hour.
All That being said;
Yes girls can ask for what they want but we can also chose to go elsewhere when we fell it's to expensive. That's what offer & demand is all about...
You on the other hand are on the attack.
As for the subjet of 100$ max, I also agree that compared to the market, charging more than 100$ for an MP is a little steep.
When we go at a a FS MP, we alwready paid 50 for the massage, (We all know that in fact we are paying for the room...)
If you compare with private incalls, the rate is generaly from 140$ to 180$ but these lady's pay rent &/or booking fees.
Outcalls charge generaly 180$ 200$ , they also pay for booker & driver, since they go to you, they also have at least 1/2 hour extra time for each client.
On top of that most FS Mp's will pass half the time pretending to massage you & then just spend the last 15-20 actualy giving you one quick SOG compared to INCALL & OUTCALL that in most cases will give you 2 services in that same hour.
All That being said;
Yes girls can ask for what they want but we can also chose to go elsewhere when we fell it's to expensive. That's what offer & demand is all about...
Sounds like you're definitely having an off day SC. JSB gave his opinion and you negligently misquoted what he said so as to make your argument look better. Doesn't work that way. If he stated "Many start with the bullshit of 120-140" then you can quote that but he didn't. I wouldn't say what you said was suspension worthy but relax.
I don't see anything wrong with what John Black (a.k.a. Roman Brady) posted. I'm clueless to why the Space Cadet was so offended, since what he posted afterwards could be viewed as being considerably more offensive than what Black or anyone else has posted in this thread.
And finally, i have never asked about options. When options were ever discussed, the girl brought it up on her own during the 'date'. When i do see someone, i usually do my homework dilligently and will know ahead of time what extras are an option, if any.
But what pisses me off is a girl who'll tell you that she wants you to cum in her mouth & won't charge you extra (even though cim doesn't do a thing for me), and 2-3 'dates' later, she'll suddenly inform you as she's counting the money before leaving that you forgot to add money in the enveloppe since she did cim early.
Now, that pisses me off & i for one don't like such surprises. I make it a rule never to repeat with an sp that pulls this stunt on me, whether or not i had a good time or not. I find this dishonest & i hate dishonest people.
And finally, i have never asked about options. When options were ever discussed, the girl brought it up on her own during the 'date'. When i do see someone, i usually do my homework dilligently and will know ahead of time what extras are an option, if any.
But what pisses me off is a girl who'll tell you that she wants you to cum in her mouth & won't charge you extra (even though cim doesn't do a thing for me), and 2-3 'dates' later, she'll suddenly inform you as she's counting the money before leaving that you forgot to add money in the enveloppe since she did cim early.
Now, that pisses me off & i for one don't like such surprises. I make it a rule never to repeat with an sp that pulls this stunt on me, whether or not i had a good time or not. I find this dishonest & i hate dishonest people.
Personally I never discuss options or pricing with the masseuse.If we click and its natural shit happens Depending on how satisfied I was both physically and mentally I leave the tip at my discretion.The majority of time they are happy to see me so and our sessions get increasingly better over time.So I don't know if there is some kind of personal vendetta between john black and space cadet but we are all adults here and should respect one another.I don't think john said anything wrong but sc you were kind of out line when you spoke to him were discussing options and prices.What does him jamming 100's in the machines have anything to do with this its his money he can do what he wants with it no?
Depending on how satisfied I was both physically and mentally I leave the tip at my discretion.The majority of time they are happy to see me so and our sessions get increasingly better over time.So I don't know if there is some kind of personal vendetta between john black and space cadet but we are all adults here and should respect one another.I don't think john said anything wrong but sc you were kind of out line when you spoke to him were discussing options and prices.What does him jamming 100's in the machines have anything to do with this its his money he can do what he wants with it no?It doesn't appear to me that JSB was implying disrespect. He was responding to a question asked and he offered his opinion. His language might have been a little dramatic but that very often happens here - in fact it happened in YOUR putdown of JSB.
As for "Who the hell are you to judge...", well he is the (theoretical) CLIENT of a (theoretical) SUPPLIER. In business, a supplier quotes a price and a client decides whether the service or product merits the price. If so, a transaction occurs. If not, the client either bites the bullet and pays the price, leaves and looks elsewhere, or goes without the service or product. But the client ALWAYS has to decide whether the price is acceptable.
In the case under current discussion you argue that the supplier has a very difficult and possibly unpleasant job. Well, perhaps that is true...but so do MANY people in MANY occupations...and it is not the CLIENT'S problem. If your grocer seems to be charging an inflated price, do you think it would be disrespectful to comment on it if a fellow shopper asked your opinion...or would you be "offended" and "ashamed of being a man" because grocers have a difficult job (fruits and vegetables that spoil before they can be sold, milk and meat recalls, shoplifters, union problems, competition....). I don't think so.
And the comment about VLTs was not only irrelevant but also hitting below the belt. You might refuse (understandably!) to pay ten dollars for a liter of milk but you might easily spend $50,000 on a new car - there is no connection.
Are you sure about this? Reread your post and I suggest you to rethink this post.
Here is John S. Black's post->
Maybe you need glasses or I might be reading it wrong but where do you read that John S. Black ever wrote "bullshit" or "deserve"??
And that last post I highlighted in bold I would rethink that if I were you. Talk about respect for women. Look at you? You think they are just robots or in a burger joint flipping burgers. They DO NOT have to spread their legs for anyone that they do not want to for. Do you think that just cuz you are paying that she has to?? They have every right to refuse any customer they want at their discretion and owe you no explanation.
What does VLT machines got to do with anything? And why bring it up? You put some many words into John S. Black's mouth. Nowhere did I read bullshit? As for prices that is determined by the market. Whatever the market is willing to bear. I got no experience with MP and some experience with SPs but from what I noticed the average price for a SP from an agency in Montreal seems to vary between $180 to $220 per hour. So if a SP quotes $250 per hour then we can say it is expensive. Now this is a free market system no one has to pay what they do not want to and no SP has to work for less money then she wants to. The market price that is what consumers are willing to pay and what SPs are willing to accept as compensation then the two meet and reach an agreement. In either case I do not know anything about MPs but it seems that maybe $140 is more expensive. Nothing wrong with that. Maybe you are very rich and do not mind throwing away your money? Only you know that answer.
Practice what you preach before preaching onto others. What I see here is someone who gets offended easily and this post seems like you got a personal vendetta against John S. Black.
You cannot compare Toronto to Montreal or much less Vancouver. The market is very different. One thing to consider is that the average disposable income in Toronto is about 30% higher and the population is almost double that of Montreal. The market there can support the higher prices but not in Montreal. The supply is far outweighs the demand. In general people in Toronto can afford the higher prices. Also keep in mind that income taxes are a lot lower especially when your gross salary exceeds $80, 000 there is almost a difference of 30% between Montreal and Toronto for income tax deductions.
Not just women but both men and women deserve respect.
I agree with you here.
I copy and pasted what he posted including spelling mistakes. he probably edited his post afterwards. I really didn't think I was so wrong in my post. maybe I just see things differently.. Sorry if I pissed anyone off. But it really sucks that he goes and edits his post after I reply to it and makes me look like some lunatic...
I always negotiate. One has to. One thing to remember is that most of these girls are lazy... They will try to give the least service and frisk the most money that they can... That is the the nature of their work. I went to FS stripclubs and I dealed hard to get what I want... I got once a 45 mins deal in the booths at Sexy Hollywood and got DFK. Many strippers I did take out with I negotiated more often then not I managed to get 3 hours for only $300. Got to negotiate at all times. There are no rules and nothing is written in stone. I know for a fact strippers charge different rates for take out depending on the client.
Well said Freeman
Well said Freeman
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