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Nvy

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I was thinking the same thing. I'll be happy with my NYC paycheck, US/Canada exchange rate, and come up when I feel that urge in my pants.
My urge is actually daily lol. Travel + lodging costs for weekend trips to MTL do add up. NYC paychecks look good on paper but costs of living are ridiculous, so no i'm not making enough for my urges.
 

Bbw hunter

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Du tout! I was just stating the fact that money is not a factor for all decision we make in life ;) Beside I do not smoke. Probably the only vice I do not have haha



BBW he did not wrote that. He just mentioned he is thinking about moving here. That said yes you are bad ;)

Cheers,

LMAO...touche Jalimon. Yes I know he did not actually say that but the fact that he posted his query on an escort review board suggests what his motivation may be. I suspect he is thinking with his lower region LOL. That's ok, I can relate...
 

Stockton

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Pretty sure that grade 1 to 12 is the same in the US as it is here, no charge for public schools. As for the healthcare issue most employers offer healthcare as a benifit so there is no cost, if you do not get the benifit the cost is not really that high. We pay a fuck of a lot in taxes for our " Free healthcare ", the savings the Americans have in their taxes could be used for healthcare. Now the very poor and homeless can not afford this but there are hospitals for these people. Healthcare is not that big a deal up here, long waits for almost anything and we do pay a lot for it.

Daycare in NYC if there are no grandparents to help out and if both parents work is almost like sending your baby to college. In certain neighborhoods you have to send your kids to private school. You do not want to send them to the free local public school if you're upper middle class. The good neighborhoods with good public schools charge much higher in property tax.

Also that's not how healthcare works in most US jobs. Your employer deducts a portion of your paycheck to pay for health insurance. There's also all of the high deductible plans where annually as a family you have to pay $5k+ out of pocket before your insurance company will pay for anything.

My company is not common and pays the entire $20k+ for my plan and I have an $8k deductible before drug cost in which my company also contributes $2k into a heath savings account. If the US had universal healthcare that $22k would just be part of my annual compensation. There is no way someone in Canada in my income bracket is paying close to $30k US in taxes just for healthcare. The crazy thing is my company pays that same $20k for the receptionist who makes 35k/yr. It's why my department is only allowed to hire contractors for clerical work.
 

hungry101

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Its "Relatively simple" when / if you get a job offer and letter of employment from a company, and if you are degreed, experienced professional, all you
need is a work permit / visa under NAFTA** agreement which is good for one year (renewable) and it would cost about $50.00 US (As of couple of years ago).
Note that this is different then the H1B visas..

I didn't realize it was that simple these days.
 

Adnan Khashoggi

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I have lived in L.A., San Francisco, NYC and Florida. You can walk anywhere, anytime in Montreal and be sure that you will not be robbed, beaten or killed. Even among the other cities in Canada, Montreal is the safest.
 

hungry101

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^^^ This is what I like in Montreal. I can have a session and when the girl leaves I will finish off the bottle of wine and write my review and then go out a grab a bite to eat and walk the streets talking to SWs and never fear for my life. I defy you to do this in Atlanta.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
I have lived in L.A., San Francisco, NYC and Florida. You can walk anywhere, anytime in Montreal and be sure that you will not be robbed, beaten or killed. Even among the other cities in Canada, Montreal is the safest.

Do a search, Montreal ranks 12th in Canada

There was a time many years ago, when Montreal could be a truly violent city, leading Canada in armed robberies for example. Those days appear to be over, at least for now. In fact, as with many other cities, it’s a bit of a mystery why Montreal isn’t lower down the list in terms of its CSI which comes in at 72. Homicide rate? 1.19, way below Canada’s average. Assault rate? 338 per 100,000 as opposed to an average of 431. Sexual assault rate? Below Canada’s average. Firearms offences? Slightly below the national average. Fraud. Impaired driving. Cocaine trafficking. All below the national average. Youth crime? Well below Canada’s average. So why is Montreal rated worse for crime than cities like Halifax and Hamilton? Its Violent CSI is a rather surprising 96 which ranks 40th out of the 229 cities and towns surveyed. That’s far higher in terms of crime than the CSI index which ranks 97th. While break & enter is slightly higher than the average, robberies are twice as high as Canada’s average. Combine that with a firearms offence rate that’s close to the average and it seems that armed robbery is a problem in Montreal. Could this be why the city’s Violent CSI is so high? Maybe the city’s long history of armed robberies is, in fact, still alive and thriving.

Take a late night walk in north Montreal, see how safe you feel. Safety depends on where you stay and how you act. Not saying Montreal is bad but visitors tend to stay in the downtown area, I have travelled to many US cities and have never had issues walking around after the pubs close.
 

hungry101

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Don't try that in Detroit or Atlanta. of course in Atlanta there is nothing open late night. They've all been robbed and forced to close a early a long time ago.

I do agree with you to a point. Stay in the downtown are and you are pretty safe. Chicago is an example. Even that has been more dangerous than normal. My problem with Atlanta and Miami is they really have nothing going for them. In Atlanta the downtown closes so early and there are panhandlers that bless you if you give them money and threaten you if you don't.
 

CaptRenault

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Here's a useful site with data reported by voluntary contributors that shows different ways to compare cost of living in major cities around the world. I like that it includes different indices, especially the Local Purchasing Power Index (which takes into consideration costs and salaries)

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings.jsp

No matter how you look at it, Montreal looks like a city with very reasonable costs when compared to other major cities. But I would still be concerned about the relatively high taxes in MTL and the weaker Canadian dollar. If I lived in NYC, then I would consider moving to a lower cost American city with relatively low taxes, e.g., Nashville, Austin, Charlotte, Las Vegas.

About Numbeo: https://www.numbeo.com/common/about.jsp
 

C.B. Brown

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Thats exacly what i said but a few came in saying they know endless people who speak english only and french does not matter ya right .Problem is many actual english companies because of the law people in key positions in hireing etc are usually french.I saw personally over the years even a top corperation the president who was normally all from england turned to becomeing french and upper management the same.try getting in the quebec government/ stm bus company /hydro quebec.. speaking english only.Some stm bus drivers are really nice and some if you speak to them in english watch out you will get a lecture.Being a excort or massage girl sex worker does not matter,if and i say if your hot and dont have a attitude you will be busy all the time no matter language barrier.In this field age looks service price are criteria to many
 

rumpleforeskiin

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Where I belong.
I have a close friend, originally from Casablanca, who has also lived in Lyon and Paris. He's also traveled extensively and has lived in Montreal for over 20 years. Me? I grew up in New York, lived in Boston, and have also traveled extensively. While he's never hobbied, he's been spending regular time with a woman he met on Seeking a couple of years ago. On the other hand, I've hobbied extensively, though I pretty much gave it up three and a half years ago when I met a younger woman on Seeking with whom I've been spending considerable time, including travel to quite a few of the world's great city. I've been basically living here for the last 10.

This thread seems to be concentrating on the economic benefits or liabilities of living in Montreal. My Moroccan and I have on more than one occasion remarked to each other that Montreal, for many reasons, is the best city in the world. And, really, that's all that matters.
 

Monsieur Clarion

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Quality of life is high in Montreal. Montreal is a town that grew up to be a city. The growth and urban sprawl stopped when all the head offices moved to Toronto. I have lived in Los Angeles where you have to get up at 4:30 AM so that you can arrive at work at 8:00AM, but not before you get into a long snake of traffic in the dark. Montreal has the best quality of life in big city living.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
^^^^^ Yes wages are a lot lower here, it matched the cost of living. There are cheap perks ( $7 a day daycare, ultra cheap post education, cheap beer and smokes, housing ) There is also a 10% provincial tax that sucks. This goes to all political parties, federal and provincial.... Quit over taxing us citizens while you live high on the hog, the " Politicians work for us " is a pile of bull shit.
My rant...
Side note: A competitor from Ontario tried to enter the Alberta workforce and put ads in the paper looking for employees, their wage was $28 a hour since that is what they pay in Ontario, they got the bottom of the barrel employees that no one would hire and shutdown within a year.
 

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The real answer to the question posed by this thread is highly variable, and depends largely on how old you are, whether or not your business is portable, and whether or not you are open to a career change.

I think for a younger person who is just getting started and open to career change and/or works in a business that is portable, Montreal would be a good place to live. I am someone whose business is not portable and I am also closing in on retirement. As you close in on retirement, you worry about things like your aging parents and being near them in order to assist them, and you also start thinking about what you will do in retirement.

Those factors seriously constrain my retirement choices, but a big factor in my mind is weather. I am not crazy about the weather in Montreal, or where I live, for that matter. If I had to pick and choose the place of my retirement and I was not constrained by some of the factors mentioned above, where I would like to move is Key West. The lifestyle there suits me well. I would have to become a citizen of the Conch Republic, but I understand that the application process is very easy.:smile:
 

C.B. Brown

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Biggest factor has to be the language and i lived here all my life
i worked for one of the top companies in north america
and in high tech some stuff can not be translated top french so some business are exempt
that being said the politics is still there.in black and white in writeing it was written 2 candidates for a position of equill skill and education the french candidate will be chosen.A family mamber in a professional field at a
]Inauguration ceramony the top person in the field greet everyone saying we can speak in english but we wont.
if you have kids here and you were educated in english you have the choice of both french or english.french people are not allwoed to send their kids to english schools.he hatred by a mini=ority of people in power is even beyond the hatred for donald trump in the states.
stop signs.everyone knows what they mean but hey changed them to arret at a cost.
major streets have and are still being renamed like dorchester was renamed to rene leveque.
its supposed to be bilengual in canada but quebec seems exempt.go on the metro all emergency instructions are in french only and to think my ancestors went to war so we dont speak german for these ''courriors du la bois''runners of the woods to impose this.(meaning they ran away when it was time to fight)

 

jalimon

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What's up with this rant CB?? What you depict is not at all what I live and see here in Quebec.
 

raquelina0909

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It’s true, in an emergency situation in Metro, you only get French instructions. In late night situations where there’s only you inside, it makes a huge impact.
 
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