Joe Biden a good President

[purplem]

Don't move the goalposts, EB. Of course it's a valid comparison for what is BEING DISCUSSED...and of course Biden is not the best the Democrats can do in 2024...which is a SEPARATE issue.

He wasn't the best last time either...but he was still infinitely better than the crazed, incompetent, ignorant, stupid narcissist on the other side, which is why he won by 7 million votes and also why he and his entire administration have far outperformed the previous one in terms of actually doing good things for the American people.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

So when it happens to Biden we are classifying too many docs and it’s a discussion for another day. Interesting, and not biased at all.

Sigh. Can you read? Because if you can, it should be patently obvious that over this issue, I haven't defended Biden a single time in this thread.

What I said about classifying too many documents is perfectly relevant (that even Patron agreed) because the National Archives didn't even know the documents were missing until Biden's lawyers turned them over. That doesn't make Biden's offense any less severe. He still had classified material in his garage (but it was locked with his Corvette yuk yuk).

 

[IamNY]

Biden shamed 'irresponsible' Trump for having classified docs before WH admitted he had sensitive VP records

President Biden previously blasted former President Trump for storing classified documents at Mar-a-Lago months before it was revealed that he, too, had sensitive documents of his own.

www.foxnews.com

Penn Biden Center where classified papers were found is a ‘dark-money nightmare’

Critics claim the Penn Biden Center, where classified documents from the Obama White House were found in an office for Joe Biden, has helped the University of Pennsylvania rake in tens of millions …

nypost.com

 

[EagerBeaver]

On this issue Biden can suck Trump's dick and vice versa. Democrats need to remove Biden from the 2024 campaign cycle- just ask him to step away.

 

[purplem]

Two people go to their local supermarket and fill up their carts with goods.

The first goes into the self-checkout line, scans one low price item and pays for it, and when the clerks aren't watching, runs out the door with hundreds of dollars of merchandise that he never paid for. When the store discovers that this merchandise is missing, they call him and politely ask him to return the items that he didn't pay for, but he refuses to do so. Eventually they have to get a warrant to go to his house to seize the stolen stuff. When they do that, he has a complete meltdown and screams that they are taking merchandise that belongs to him (even though he never paid for it), because he says so.

The second shopper takes his cart to the self-checkout line, scans all the merchandise (or so he believes), leaves the store and goes home with what he believes to be legally purchased food. Later, when he's looking over his receipt for the items he bought, he notices that he was charged for only three boxes of macaroni, even though he has four boxes of macaroni in his possession. He realizes that he must have either forgotten to scan one of the boxes, or the scanner malfunctioned and didn't read the barcode. In any event, he knows he has a box of macaroni that he did not pay for. So he does the responsible thing, goes to the store with the box of macaroni and returns it, acknowledging that he must have forgotten to scan it when he was checking out his purchase.

It should be pretty evident to anyone which person represents Trump and which person represents Biden in this little story.

 

[IamNY]

^^^^Worst analogy ever. More docs found:

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/14/1149071576/biden-classified-documents-what-we-know

 

[EagerBeaver]

The main problem with the analogy is that when you forget to pay for Mac and Cheese, nobody gets killed. When you forget about classified documents in your garage, you potentially divulge information that gets someone killed. This has happened with leaked information, which compromised intelligence operatives overseas. Intentionally leaking documents and negligently forgetting them are equivalent when the end result gets someone killed. It's constructive treason and grounds for removal.

 

[masmasak]

 

[Womaniser]

Perhaps because he cooperate ?

 

[wetnose]

 

[Snuggles]

Isn't the bigger issue that they knew where the documents Trump had, but for Joe has documents that even he can not remember where and how many. Not all Biden's fault but shouldn't there be some kind librarian cataloging this? They have been missing for over 6 years.

 

[EagerBeaver]

shouldn't there be some kind librarian cataloging this? They have been missing for over 6 years.

There should be, but in our system, nobody is above the President and the President is not accountable to anyone (except to Congress via the very after the fact impeachment process), as Richard Nixon once noted in this famous interview:

 

[IamNY]

Biden was a VP when the documents went “missing”.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Biden was a VP when the documents went “missing”.

Yes but he didn't remember them until he was President, which was a convenient time to recollect them. Of course Roger Clemens would say he "misremembered", as Andy Pettite did about their mutual trainer injecting Clemens in the ass with HGH.

Clemens: Pettitte 'misremembered' him on HGH

Brian McNamee says he injected Roger Clemens with performance-enhancing drugs more often than he previously claimed.

www.espn.com

 

[wetnose]

Isn't the bigger issue that they knew where the documents Trump had, but for Joe has documents that even he can not remember where and how many. Not all Biden's fault but shouldn't there be some kind librarian cataloging this? They have been missing for over 6 years.

I speculate they probably weren't that important to begin with. Nevertheless, Biden should have taken the proper steps for safekeeping.

Law applies to everybody, speaking of which....

 

[wetnose]

Joe Biden, back in 1995, when the US Senate approved troop deployment in Bosnia

 

[IamNY]

Investigators Seize More Classified Documents From Biden’s Home (Published 2023)

A team from the Justice Department conducted a 13-hour search of the president’s Wilmington residence on Friday.

www.nytimes.com

 

[EagerBeaver]

Biden should pardon Trump, and himself if he can on this issue.

I think he can only pardon one Biden, and it's going to be his son Hunter. This will be another reason why he will not seek re-election. He is going to step down and pardon Hunter on his way out the door. As part of the deal in Joe agreeing to stepping down, he will extract a promise from the Democratic leadership that the Democratic nominee in 2024 will agree to pardon him. These political maneuverings will result in both Bidens receiving pardons.

Trump will need Ronny D to get elected in order to receive his pardon, but he might be dead before Ronny D gets around to considering it.

 

[purplem]

 

[IamNY]

If you steal a car and return it, you have still stolen a car and committed a crime. Whether or not you return the car or the cops come and take it from you. Insert classified documents in place of car and you realize how foolish many on this board sound. Only difference between Trump and biden is that Trump had the ability to declassify documents because he was president at the time and biden unfortunatly was not.