Liberal leader winner
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I think that Ignatieff will win.
I hope that Dion wins because he seems to be a man of integrity especially when Martin took over and kicked out most of Chretien's ministers (Copps, Manley, etc.) including Dion. Martin allied himself with the foot-in-the-mouth, Jean Lapierre. Dion didn't do or say anything negative and showed a lot of integrity and loyalty to a leader that didn't deserve it. Eventually because of pressure Martin was somewhat forced to name Dion as the environmental minister.
However, even though I hope that Dion wins, he is not bankable in his own home province (Quebec) where a lot of francophones think that he is a traitor (for being the father of the Clarity Act). He is also not bankable in the Western provinces. This means that if he wins the Liberal leadership, it is very unlikely that he will ever become prime minister.
In terms of opponents, I think that Harper and Duceppe will have the toughest time with Dion. The only negative thing that Duceppe can say about Dion is that he is a traitor for introducing the Clarity Act.
We all know what Harper will say about Rae (his mismanagement of Ontario while Rae was premier). With Ignatieff, Harper will say that Igantieff was out of the country for a long time and Ignatieff also has a habit of speaking before he thinks and then backtracking.
Whoever wins will be no match for Harper unless Harper creates a major blunder. Bigger name candidates should have tossed their hats into the liberal leadership race like the ex-premiere of New Brunswick.
I predict that Harper will unfortunately win the next federal election. Remember, you heard it from me first!
I hope that Dion wins because he seems to be a man of integrity especially when Martin took over and kicked out most of Chretien's ministers (Copps, Manley, etc.) including Dion. Martin allied himself with the foot-in-the-mouth, Jean Lapierre. Dion didn't do or say anything negative and showed a lot of integrity and loyalty to a leader that didn't deserve it. Eventually because of pressure Martin was somewhat forced to name Dion as the environmental minister.
However, even though I hope that Dion wins, he is not bankable in his own home province (Quebec) where a lot of francophones think that he is a traitor (for being the father of the Clarity Act). He is also not bankable in the Western provinces. This means that if he wins the Liberal leadership, it is very unlikely that he will ever become prime minister.
In terms of opponents, I think that Harper and Duceppe will have the toughest time with Dion. The only negative thing that Duceppe can say about Dion is that he is a traitor for introducing the Clarity Act.
We all know what Harper will say about Rae (his mismanagement of Ontario while Rae was premier). With Ignatieff, Harper will say that Igantieff was out of the country for a long time and Ignatieff also has a habit of speaking before he thinks and then backtracking.
Whoever wins will be no match for Harper unless Harper creates a major blunder. Bigger name candidates should have tossed their hats into the liberal leadership race like the ex-premiere of New Brunswick.
I predict that Harper will unfortunately win the next federal election. Remember, you heard it from me first!
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The Kennedy Compromise
I confess to (so far) casting the lone vote for Kennedy, who I feel will corner the "Anybody but" vote.
I predict the Natural Ruling Party will consider "electability" the most important attribute of a candidate so:
I doubt that Dion can carry his home province in this convention, much less in a national election. Rae's record as Ontario premier renders him vulnerable to attack. If Ig is error-prone already in a leadership convention, he will need a full time oral surgeon and podiatrist to keep his feet out of his mouth under the pressure of a national election.
Recall Joe Clark became the leader of the Conservative party years ago in similar circumstances.
I confess to (so far) casting the lone vote for Kennedy, who I feel will corner the "Anybody but" vote.
I predict the Natural Ruling Party will consider "electability" the most important attribute of a candidate so:
I doubt that Dion can carry his home province in this convention, much less in a national election. Rae's record as Ontario premier renders him vulnerable to attack. If Ig is error-prone already in a leadership convention, he will need a full time oral surgeon and podiatrist to keep his feet out of his mouth under the pressure of a national election.
Recall Joe Clark became the leader of the Conservative party years ago in similar circumstances.
Too obvious
Bob Rae will win or I'll eat my hat
Not that I want the man to win, its simply too obvious that he will gain the majority votes.
If Howard Dean has any influence here, which I doubt he has, the Liberal party will include the interests of the middle-lower class votes than the upper income bracket support base. If this is true, then the Liberals will win the next national election.
Bob Rae will win or I'll eat my hat
Not that I want the man to win, its simply too obvious that he will gain the majority votes.
If Howard Dean has any influence here, which I doubt he has, the Liberal party will include the interests of the middle-lower class votes than the upper income bracket support base. If this is true, then the Liberals will win the next national election.
Serpico said:
Dammit, I sent them some boxes of MERB thongs too...
Don't get me started about the money grabs. Just onthe cenvention alone they are making over 2 million in profit (cost is 3mil and total rpoceeds from delegate fees 5000 x 995$ = 4.975mil.), not to mention the sales of materials and trinkets at the convention.
Hey, we should have MERB member thongs taht give us added benefit at MP/SP.
WI.
At 11pm friday dec 1st, after the speeches
and before the result of the first turn are announced
MERBITES predict:
Stephane Dion_______30.43%
Michael Ignatieff_____34.78%
Gerard Kennedy______8.70%
Bob Rae____________26.09%
Are we representative of the liberal delegates?
and before the result of the first turn are announced
MERBITES predict:
Stephane Dion_______30.43%
Michael Ignatieff_____34.78%
Gerard Kennedy______8.70%
Bob Rae____________26.09%
Are we representative of the liberal delegates?
and I predict that who ever he isjoelcairo said:
he will, in the next general
beat the crap out SH... ...it is obvious
SH who would deny us our fundamental rights and freedoms to SPs and MPs
Hey JC (JoelCairo)joelcairo said:
There was no sense beating on a dead horse
That's the only thing PM PM did
After what JC had done to the beast
Gomery was only the small town mortician
Who picked the bones off the cadaver
And BTW merbites were right
after the first round it's
1- Iggy (no iggypop here)
2- Bobby (no Kennedy here)
3- Steffy (Celine's dull uncle)
3 1/2- Gerry (Gerry! Gerry! Gerry!)
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Everybody hears this !!!!
Now everybody listens to me, since I think I am right on this time:
My heart wants Rae or Dion to win, since they are the best, but my haed thinks Ignatieff is going to win due to his qualifications and charisma that delegates like.
Let's see if it is going to be true.
Now everybody listens to me, since I think I am right on this time:
My heart wants Rae or Dion to win, since they are the best, but my haed thinks Ignatieff is going to win due to his qualifications and charisma that delegates like.
Let's see if it is going to be true.
New York said:
It will be DION
because the Globe and Mail said so.
and HARPER is laughing out loud !
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