Long term arrangements

[R the Man]

My experience with sugar babies at seeking.com /3

So, how did I do? During my 4 day trip I booked 8 meetings. Yes, I went a bit overboard, but I really was testing out girls to see if I wanted to see them regularly. All the girls were engaging and interesting in looks and conversations. But, a complicating factor was that I flew to Montreal on the first day that the Covid shit hit the fan. Luckily I finished the trip before the recommendation for social distancing.

I had 2 cancel on me that morning, a couple of days before our scheduled meetings. One cancelled because she said she went out of town because of the falling stock market, a really lame excuse. She was the hottest one and had photos that were TGTBT, so I actually wasn’t surprised. The other said she had start of a cold and begged off. While that seemed reasonable, she was one that I suspected might have been an SP.

Two cancelled just before the meeting time. One texted a hour before to say that she was kept at work and couldn’t make it. She was a junior professional, so maybe that was true. The other only replied to my “let me know when you are on the way” text 15 minutes prior, to say that she was called in to work – on a weekend, so highly unlikely. She was the only one who irritated me. Because we were meeting at my hotel bar, at least I didn’t have to venture out or sit around waiting for a no-show.

So, that left 4 girls that I actually saw. Just as well, maybe, because they were so good that 8 meetings like those would have killed me! They all were happy to have sex with me after briefly chatting over wine on that first date.

/cont’d 4

 

[R the Man]

My experience with sugar babies at seeking.com /4

I'm not going to give out SA profile names for the girls out of respect for them.

All four girls were definitely not SPs or pros. They were 21-24 years old, and all looked like their photos. Three were clearly students, the fourth worked in an interesting job. Three had pretty GND looks (7.5), and one was clearly above average (8.0), all had very good petite bodies and curves in the right places. The service level for all was excellent, on par with most well-reviewed agency girls - DFK, BBBJ, DATY, multiple positions, everything GFE. I am amazed at how good sex skills that these “amateur” young girls had. They all stayed for 2-3 hours, were definitely not clock watchers, and a great time was had by all.

So, just to summarize, even though 4 of the 8 ended up bailing at different times, I had 4 excellent SB experiences with multi-hour visits for the price of an hour or so of an Indy’s time. They were young and fun students, and I enjoyed them all. Two of them I will definitely try and see again. The flirty messaging prior was fun and really added to the spice of the intimate meeting. Although I will continue to book agency girls (and in fact I did book my fave, Sweet Kylie from Velvet, to fill up one of the cancelled time slots) I would definitely also use SA and sugar babies as an alternative and different kind of fun.

Enjoy, boys!

 

[Mistral]

Nice, but did any of them take you balls deep like Kylie ?

Just kidding... well done and great information, thanks for sharing.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Covid-19 has put a major damper on SA activities as many/most girls, especially new and inexperienced, want to meet in a public place, but all the usual public places are shut down. At a minimum it will make things very difficult. I have noticed with schools shut down and many in server jobs laid off because the bars and restaurants are closed, there has been a surge in new enrollments on SA in the 18-22 college age grouping. So it's a Buyer's market right now, but the other side of it is that there is no place to meet them, so it is a bit of a dilemma.

 

[hungry101]

R The Man - Your success rate with Sugar Babies is about the same as mine with Indies. For every two I book one actually shows. This is encouraging. Great post.

 

[R the Man]

R The Man - Your success rate with Sugar Babies is about the same as mine with Indies. For every two I book one actually shows. This is encouraging. Great post.

Thanks, h101. I thought Indies were reliable?

 

[jalimon]

Thanks, h101. I thought Indies were reliable?

Pouah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You made me laugh

Thanks for your post you made me think I might give SA another try once we get back to regular life..

 

[hungry101]

Thanks, h101. I thought Indies were reliable?

I paint with a broad brush. Many are very reliable. All of the indies I've actually met with performed incredibly well upon arrival. Arrival is the challenge. Not everyone can be their own boss and make a schedule and keep it. I was just amazed that you were able to get 50% of the girls to show up. Honestly, that's about my batting average with indies.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I just got an email from Seeking Arrangement CEO Brandon Wade stating as follows:

“In the past week, many new users have flocked to the site to meet other like-minded individuals around the world.

While the government and media are promoting the need for social distancing, we feel the need to correct them. It should be physical distancing, not social distancing that is the focus. While we need to keep ourselves at least 6 feet away from others, there has never been a time when we need to be more social and connected to other human beings, and we are here to help.
Stay healthy and safe!“

 

[EagerBeaver]

They usually do ask to chat on Kik or Whats App and, in most cases, it's because they want to see if you are totally perverted or a weirdo or a regular guy, and not to scam you. It's also against SA rules to discuss certain things (like money for sexy pics, or money for sex, which can be freely discussed in text software). Although you do need to be aware of scammers who are mostly trying to get you to advance money and they will reveal themselves quickly with promises of sexy or nude pics, and if they you do, you simply block them. There is no reason to be afraid to use Kik or Whats App.

You guys have to understand that the single primary guiding rule most SBs observe is to look out for their own personal safety with strangers, and they want to have SOME comfort knowing that the dude they are texting and communicating with is not the next Jack the Ripper. Most of these SBs have seen Criminal Minds, and know there are bad people in the world, and operate with simple survival instincts. This should all be common sense if you look at it from the other side as you must in order to play the game effectively.

Some SBs like Kik because they legitimately want to sell their nude pics, and the software on Kik is very user friendly for transmitting sexy pics and videos.

 

[Dasein]

I actually started corresponding with a 25 year old grad student on Secret Benefits before the social distancing thing and she asked that we do so by Kik. I had never heard of it! But it’s super user friendly and easier to send send videos than other methods. We’ve never met (who knows when we will) and no money ha been exchanged yet, but she’s sent me several sexy selfies, nude pics and a video of herself straddling a dildo until she came that was super hot. She’s also a triathlete... what a bod! Anyways, I agree. Conversations and messages beforehand allow both people to build trust, an essential element in great sex

 

[CoolAmadeus]

I have been with quite a number of women on SA so far, as it's a totally different beast than escorts or massage therapists. These women are there for the money, still (most of them), but for the most part they are also there to meet interresting human beings who they will be more than just fuck bodies to them.

That being said, once the conversation is fluid on the SA board, it's often much easier to use another medium. My personal preference is WhatsApp (I use a different phone number than my cell phone on WhatsApp), but there are also text messages (also using the same different phone number - using Fongi for me, but a lot of TextMe style apps exists too), or Kik (I personally don't like), or Viber and Signal. All there alternatives are good, and each has its own advantages and inconvenients.

If a girl is trying to scam you, using Kik or any other app is not an indication. You will get hints that something is wrong way before that!

Stay safe!

CA

 

[ShyMan]

I've been killing time partly by reading SB's bios ("About Me") on SA. Recently, I've been noticing more and more SB's saying they are broke because of the pandemic lockdown and "I've also been trying really hard to get this Louis Vuitton bag." Different designer bags are also mentioned.

I'm thinking those SB's who say they want a Louis Vuitton bag expect more $$$ than those SB's who say they want a Coach bag. Those who want a Chanel bag likely want a huge amount of $$$$$.

 

[Dasein]

I actually started corresponding with a 25 year old grad student on Secret Benefits before the social distancing thing and she asked that we do so by Kik. I had never heard of it! But it’s super user friendly and easier to send send videos than other methods. We’ve never met (who knows when we will) and no money ha been exchanged yet, but she’s sent me several sexy selfies, nude pics and a video of herself straddling a dildo until she came that was super hot. She’s also a triathlete... what a bod! Anyways, I agree. Conversations and messages beforehand allow both people to build trust, an essential element in great sex

Just a quick update: finally was able to see her lunch and a couple of hours at the hotel. PhD student, triathlete... she is bright, fun, and multiorgasmic. Oh, and she made it clear that she did not want to get paid before we started. I hesitated a little bit... I did not want to take advantage of her. She reassured me: she does not have time for a boyfriend and just wants to be my occasional mistress... the experience was not on par with my ATF escorts, but it was still fantastic.

 

[CoolAmadeus]

Just a quick update: finally was able to see her lunch and a couple of hours at the hotel. PhD student, triathlete... she is bright, fun, and multiorgasmic. Oh, and she made it clear that she did not want to get paid before we started. I hesitated a little bit... I did not want to take advantage of her. She reassured me: she does not have time for a boyfriend and just wants to be my occasional mistress... the experience was not on par with my ATF escorts, but it was still fantastic.

You’re a very lucky men to have found a woman who didn’t want to get paid at all on a site like Seeking One in a million!

Cross your fingers, go buy a lottery ticket, and enjoy your time with her!

CA

 

[nylonlover]

I just had my first SA meet-up with a cute young Mexican girl living at home with her mom. I asked her for her i.d. card which she showed me and she had just turned 19. Went out for drinks. She wanted $3k/month. I drove her back home.

 

[chowzilla]

damnnn... that's a full salary.

 

[nylonlover]

damnnn... that's a full salary.

Yah man i know. Anyways, wish me luck, cuz i am meeting another one today and she seems more likely to agree to a reasonable deal. Beautiful thin Haitian girl who lives at home with her parents and who cannot get away more than 6-8 hrs at a time lol. 20 year old with a decent job (sends me selfies from work everyday, as well as her work schedule for the last 3 weeks). She wants to dress up 4 me (pantyhose, stockings), and exclusively bang me and basically be my gf and let me be her dominant. She doesn't want to be paid upfront or immediately after intimacy. So, sounds interesting and I hope I don't F it up with my direct, cut-to-the-chase dialogue style.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Just got back from three fabulous days on Ile d'Orleans with my girl. We're now well into our fifth year of this journey.

 

[Coolio]

Hey Gents,

I have been away from Merb as I was switching from SP to SB and I had met three or four interesting SBs over the last 4 years ( I was on SA as well).

Pros:
- More personal, emotional connection as compared to a SP. More like a fuck buddy + friends with benefits. However, this can be cons for some gents who don't have the time to emotionally involve in a relationship like that and just need a good fuck
- SBs definitely are not clock watchers. I always had PPM arrangements and sometimes we can spent the whole day together without extra charge. I even brought one of my SB with me when I went to Seoul for business trip (which compares to SP will probably cost me a leg)
- There is a possibility that you won't need protection anymore ... condom is not my favorite and I prefer without if possible. With SB, this would be possible after regularly seeing each other for a while, while with SP, this will never happen
- Well, with SBs, you can train them (in a respectful way), the way you like it and also discovers what they like and vice versa. It's more GFE feeling and it's fun for the long term. I make one SB tried GREEK and she loves it afterward.

Cons:
- it's more time consuming to find the right SB. Not every babe on SA has the same taste for sex. Some platonic, some likes to be Dom and some likes to be sub, and some are into weirder stuff like heavy BDSM or FMF, MFM... so it takes time to find the right one
- financial wise, the younger SB will tend to settle over smaller amount of monthly allowance. 18 to 24 yrs old for example, you can find one probably around 1.5k to 2k a month, which equals to like 400 to 500 per week. There are also some will ask impossible amount like more than 700 ppm, twice a week. Well let's say not All people are millionaires
- You don't have time to see them? You still have to pay. Unlike SP, which is PPM, with SB, if you are particularly busy for work or away for business trip, you still have to compensate SBs
- Duration of relationship is not guaranteed. With SP, you know that they will be around and probably for a good period of time. However with SBs, this is an unknown, they can met a boyfriend in couple of months then relationship is either ended or go into a more complicated phase.. He he he Just careful that some SBs have probably been abused when they were young or Daddy issue and they can be pretty fucked up emotionally and sometimes out of control.

So depending what you are looking for, I hope I break it down enough for your gents' info.

By the way, to begin with SA website, you will need to pay in order to message the ladies. Once I break the ice on SA then I will move to WhatsApp for more personal communication.
I usually go with newer or younger SBs. They have less expectation and are probably testing water as well.

I always go with a meet up, dinner date/coffee date with no compensation first date. Then depending on feeling and how it goes, we can either call it off, or arrange next date or head to hotel. If they agree to meet you first date without compensation, they are probably not scammers( but of course you will have to pay for dinner or coffee )