I just had my first SA meet-up with a cute young Mexican girl living at home with her mom. I asked her for her i.d. card which she showed me and she had just turned 19. Went out for drinks. She wanted $3k/month. I drove her back home.
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damnnn... that's a full salary.
Yah man i know. Anyways, wish me luck, cuz i am meeting another one today and she seems more likely to agree to a reasonable deal. Beautiful thin Haitian girl who lives at home with her parents and who cannot get away more than 6-8 hrs at a time lol. 20 year old with a decent job (sends me selfies from work everyday, as well as her work schedule for the last 3 weeks). She wants to dress up 4 me (pantyhose, stockings), and exclusively bang me and basically be my gf and let me be her dominant. She doesn't want to be paid upfront or immediately after intimacy. So, sounds interesting and I hope I don't F it up with my direct, cut-to-the-chase dialogue style.
Just got back from three fabulous days on Ile d'Orleans with my girl. We're now well into our fifth year of this journey.
Hey Gents,
I have been away from Merb as I was switching from SP to SB and I had met three or four interesting SBs over the last 4 years ( I was on SA as well).
Pros:
- More personal, emotional connection as compared to a SP. More like a fuck buddy + friends with benefits. However, this can be cons for some gents who don't have the time to emotionally involve in a relationship like that and just need a good fuck
- SBs definitely are not clock watchers. I always had PPM arrangements and sometimes we can spent the whole day together without extra charge. I even brought one of my SB with me when I went to Seoul for business trip (which compares to SP will probably cost me a leg)
- There is a possibility that you won't need protection anymore... condom is not my favorite and I prefer without if possible. With SB, this would be possible after regularly seeing each other for a while, while with SP, this will never happen
- Well, with SBs, you can train them (in a respectful way), the way you like it and also discovers what they like and vice versa. It's more GFE feeling and it's fun for the long term. I make one SB tried GREEK and she loves it afterward.
Cons:
- it's more time consuming to find the right SB. Not every babe on SA has the same taste for sex. Some platonic, some likes to be Dom and some likes to be sub, and some are into weirder stuff like heavy BDSM or FMF, MFM... so it takes time to find the right one
- financial wise, the younger SB will tend to settle over smaller amount of monthly allowance. 18 to 24 yrs old for example, you can find one probably around 1.5k to 2k a month, which equals to like 400 to 500 per week. There are also some will ask impossible amount like more than 700 ppm, twice a week. Well let's say not All people are millionaires
- You don't have time to see them? You still have to pay. Unlike SP, which is PPM, with SB, if you are particularly busy for work or away for business trip, you still have to compensate SBs
- Duration of relationship is not guaranteed. With SP, you know that they will be around and probably for a good period of time. However with SBs, this is an unknown, they can met a boyfriend in couple of months then relationship is either ended or go into a more complicated phase.. He he he Just careful that some SBs have probably been abused when they were young or Daddy issue and they can be pretty fucked up emotionally and sometimes out of control.
So depending what you are looking for, I hope I break it down enough for your gents' info.
By the way, to begin with SA website, you will need to pay in order to message the ladies. Once I break the ice on SA then I will move to WhatsApp for more personal communication.
I usually go with newer or younger SBs. They have less expectation and are probably testing water as well.
I always go with a meet up, dinner date/coffee date with no compensation first date. Then depending on feeling and how it goes, we can either call it off, or arrange next date or head to hotel. If they agree to meet you first date without compensation, they are probably not scammers( but of course you will have to pay for dinner or coffee)
I have been away from Merb as I was switching from SP to SB and I had met three or four interesting SBs over the last 4 years ( I was on SA as well).
Pros:
- More personal, emotional connection as compared to a SP. More like a fuck buddy + friends with benefits. However, this can be cons for some gents who don't have the time to emotionally involve in a relationship like that and just need a good fuck
- SBs definitely are not clock watchers. I always had PPM arrangements and sometimes we can spent the whole day together without extra charge. I even brought one of my SB with me when I went to Seoul for business trip (which compares to SP will probably cost me a leg)
- There is a possibility that you won't need protection anymore
... condom is not my favorite and I prefer without if possible. With SB, this would be possible after regularly seeing each other for a while, while with SP, this will never happen- Well, with SBs, you can train them (in a respectful way), the way you like it and also discovers what they like and vice versa. It's more GFE feeling and it's fun for the long term. I make one SB tried GREEK and she loves it afterward.
Cons:
- it's more time consuming to find the right SB. Not every babe on SA has the same taste for sex. Some platonic, some likes to be Dom and some likes to be sub, and some are into weirder stuff like heavy BDSM or FMF, MFM... so it takes time to find the right one
- financial wise, the younger SB will tend to settle over smaller amount of monthly allowance. 18 to 24 yrs old for example, you can find one probably around 1.5k to 2k a month, which equals to like 400 to 500 per week. There are also some will ask impossible amount like more than 700 ppm, twice a week. Well let's say not All people are millionaires
- You don't have time to see them? You still have to pay. Unlike SP, which is PPM, with SB, if you are particularly busy for work or away for business trip, you still have to compensate SBs
- Duration of relationship is not guaranteed. With SP, you know that they will be around and probably for a good period of time. However with SBs, this is an unknown, they can met a boyfriend in couple of months then relationship is either ended or go into a more complicated phase.. He he he Just careful that some SBs have probably been abused when they were young or Daddy issue and they can be pretty fucked up emotionally and sometimes out of control.
So depending what you are looking for, I hope I break it down enough for your gents' info.
By the way, to begin with SA website, you will need to pay in order to message the ladies. Once I break the ice on SA then I will move to WhatsApp for more personal communication.
I usually go with newer or younger SBs. They have less expectation and are probably testing water as well.
I always go with a meet up, dinner date/coffee date with no compensation first date. Then depending on feeling and how it goes, we can either call it off, or arrange next date or head to hotel. If they agree to meet you first date without compensation, they are probably not scammers( but of course you will have to pay for dinner or coffee
)
Coolio,
Great summary although I might add that one shld be prepared that the SBs may not be exclusive whatever they might claim. I know enterprising ladies that collect allowances of several hundred/week from multiple guys.
It’s still a good deal because as u mentioned, more GFE & no clock watching. Just that some guys get kinda crazy when they find out their SBs aren’t exclusive.
Great summary although I might add that one shld be prepared that the SBs may not be exclusive whatever they might claim. I know enterprising ladies that collect allowances of several hundred/week from multiple guys.
It’s still a good deal because as u mentioned, more GFE & no clock watching. Just that some guys get kinda crazy when they find out their SBs aren’t exclusive.
"You don't have time to see them? You still have to pay."
Pas nécessairement. Je paie à chaque rencontre seulement et pas plus de 200$. La rencontre est d'une durée indéterminée (ça peut être une nuit entière) et il n'y a pas d'extra. Par exemple si la fille fait le greek c'est parce qu'elle aime ça.
Pas nécessairement. Je paie à chaque rencontre seulement et pas plus de 200$. La rencontre est d'une durée indéterminée (ça peut être une nuit entière) et il n'y a pas d'extra. Par exemple si la fille fait le greek c'est parce qu'elle aime ça.
Même chose ici. Those who pay more ruin it for all of us, as they raise expectations and the girls become more selective, based on money. Altough in retrospect, it may not that bad a thing finally, as those who still want to meet us at a lower amount are those who are not in it only for the money, more genuine.
It's true that there is the "money" factor that must not be forgotten, difficult not to confuse the stakes.
Do you believe that there are women who don't do this job for the money.
Who don't need the money, and just do it for fun. I have been looking for a long time, both on the side of erotic masseuses, and among escorts, I have not yet found one.
Yes, there are women who are genuine, ask them if they are doing this just for you? just for free?
Yah. Our first get together was very good. I basically had a solid erection for all 4 hrs, as we sat on a quiet secluded bench on the water in Pierrefonds. She is beautiful (10/10 for me) and a total spinner with slender beautiful legs for days, cute butt and tight stomach about 100 lbs. Body is 10/10 too, for me. Picked her up from work. She's tall about 5'7. 20 yrs old. I asked for her i.d. card and she showed it to me immediately. I needed to be sure she was over 18 cuz she does look very young. Gorgeous face. Makeup was perfect. No attitude. Very courteous, well-mannered and kind-hearted. Extremely feminine. Smelled like cocoa. Totally green and novice. Church girl that had a shitty relationship a couple of yrs back with her "first bf" who took her virginity and didn't know how to make her cum. I am the first person she met on SA which she basically tried as a dare from her friends. She is actually no longer on there. I guess I lucked out. She wants an older man to teach her "things" about everything including proper bjs cuz her ex would complain 2 her about it and she is insecure about it. She basically wants a much older 'secret' bf. She is a novice when it comes to nylons and hosiery but truly wants to try and plz me and already purchased some pantyhose that she will wear on our 2nd date this week. She is a total sweet shy sub and wants to serve. But the intimacy will have to be gentle. She doesn't want "transactions" and remains shy about the whole monetary aspect. She basically wants me to determine what she deserves. She comes from a hard-working, God fearing blue collar family and she is used to living tightly. Based on our schedules, we are looking at 1 or 2 meetings a week. I am bringing her to my house for our 2nd date. Fingers crossed.
Looks like you totally misread me, and also you seem to see it with an escort background point of view. For escorts and masseuse, yes, it’s a « job », and they are obviously all there for the money in the first place. For sugar babies, (real ones, not SPs hidden as SBs), it’s NOT a job, just a way to help avoid starving at month end, while having a good time in the process. For a few others, it’s a way to have a good time with men who are more respectful and who will take care of them more than younger boys their age, full of testosterone and with zero interest in sharing, typically « takers », as opposed to « givers ». But it’s all shades of grey: escorts on one end, and young women just looking for fun at the other end, with a whole spectrum in between.
I’ve been with women on SA who asked for an hourly amount but were SOOOO desirable (to the point I couldn’t resist), typically SPs, but I also remember one in particular who liked me so much she wanted to continue seeing me at least twice a week even after I told her I had to stop because of my financial situation at the time (she jokingly asked if I would leave my wife for her - well, maybe not so jokingly after all), and I’ve had sex with her (and all kinds of fun times) during a few more months, FOR FREE, until it started to hurt her that I couldn’t be more present, and decided to stop. It’s rare, but it happens. Again... Full spectrum!
Of course, if one assumes all women are strictly there for the money, and treat them like escorts, the good ones will leave, and all he will attract are - guess what - escorts!
Being nice, gentleman, respectful, considerate, goes a loooonnnng way, even more so on Seeking.
CA
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I would say the rate of returned messages are for every 5-10 messages, you will get 1 reply. That is if you are messaging the current active ones.
the rate of return goes down, as you message less active girls on SA but some will check their notifications.
the rate of return goes down, as you message less active girls on SA but some will check their notifications.
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Hi, been reading through the experiences here...I am considering signing up for SA, any people who have used it recently, what's the typical going allowance like (300 pm?). I am not the type who would pay them just to meet or coffee or dinner but definitely pick up the tab. I saw one post where the guy clearly stated that they wanted intimate relationship and then did it on first time and others with meet and greet or so. How should I go about it? Also, do you guys put your own face photo or have it hidden? oh one last thing, how do you protect your personal identity while paying for the site, since we have to put our credit card information there, any suggestions to keep it discreet?...looking to see how it works out in the month. I already got quite a few dates lined up through traditional methods but feel this could be fun activity as well
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j’ai été on and off sur le site depuis deux ans. J’ai rencontrer des femmes épatantes et .
Si je peux donner quelques conseils à de nouveau sd, soyez clair avec ce que vous rechercher, que ce soit comme type de relation et dans le lit. Oublier les allocations mensuelles, ppm à privilégier. De mon côté j’ai rencontré plusieurs femme de 25-30 ans (mon âge Target) qui avait un emploi à temps plein et cherchait à arrondir leur fin de mois. Ce sont généralement des femmes célibataire tanné de mauvaise dates Tinder et qui cherche à cumulé plaisir et $. Elle sont plus mature mentalement et sexuellement que les 18-25 (mon expérience) (je suis dans la debut trentaine donc j’avais plus d’intérêt avec les 25-30)
je n’ai jamais fait de rencontre platonique (une fois je me suis fais screener autour d’un lunch au resto avant d’aller en intimité) généralement, l’envoie de photo de mon côté et des conversations cordiales et drôle était suffisants pour qu’on prenne rendez-vous. J’ai eu des arrangements qui ont durée entre 1fois à 1 ans et demi.
C’est définitivement une bonne alternative aux escorte, mais il faut y consacrer du temps.
enjoy SA and be respectful with the ladies, I’ve been told there’s many rude and creepy man on SA
Si je peux donner quelques conseils à de nouveau sd, soyez clair avec ce que vous rechercher, que ce soit comme type de relation et dans le lit. Oublier les allocations mensuelles, ppm à privilégier. De mon côté j’ai rencontré plusieurs femme de 25-30 ans (mon âge Target) qui avait un emploi à temps plein et cherchait à arrondir leur fin de mois. Ce sont généralement des femmes célibataire tanné de mauvaise dates Tinder et qui cherche à cumulé plaisir et $. Elle sont plus mature mentalement et sexuellement que les 18-25 (mon expérience) (je suis dans la debut trentaine donc j’avais plus d’intérêt avec les 25-30)
je n’ai jamais fait de rencontre platonique (une fois je me suis fais screener autour d’un lunch au resto avant d’aller en intimité) généralement, l’envoie de photo de mon côté et des conversations cordiales et drôle était suffisants pour qu’on prenne rendez-vous. J’ai eu des arrangements qui ont durée entre 1fois à 1 ans et demi.
C’est définitivement une bonne alternative aux escorte, mais il faut y consacrer du temps.
enjoy SA and be respectful with the ladies, I’ve been told there’s many rude and creepy man on SA
I'm possibly going on a business trip to Tunisia in the next few months. Anyone with experience there? I see very few women on SA in that area. Also, given the economics over there, I would assume they are much less demanding in terms of $$. Am I right?
Any hint will be appreciated ;-)
CA
Any hint will be appreciated ;-)
CA
No experience there, though I once met a sweet Tunisian escort in Montreal.
I know you prefer to play in the arrangements pool, but you might have to consider other approaches in Tunisia. Have you consulted the French site Youppie? Aside from the natives, these are probably the guys who know the country best.
CA, I did a SA search on Tunisia. 2 words: slim pickings. On my standard 18-25 year old search, there were 8 ladies active in the last 24 hours. Not enough of a selection, IMHO. I assume you know that 98% of the country is Muslim, and one can presume that the level of sexual liberalism is not exactly on the level of what you would expect in your native Quebec.
That's the bad news. Now here is the good news: 64% of the residents speak French, mostly as a second language to the official Arabic, meaning that as a French outsider who speaks French as a first language, and more properly, you are a linguistic stud to them. You can likely use this as an advantage in various social media and hook up apps, and perhaps find some attractive and sexually repressed Muslim girls who need sexual liberation by you.
That's the bad news. Now here is the good news: 64% of the residents speak French, mostly as a second language to the official Arabic, meaning that as a French outsider who speaks French as a first language, and more properly, you are a linguistic stud to them. You can likely use this as an advantage in various social media and hook up apps, and perhaps find some attractive and sexually repressed Muslim girls who need sexual liberation by you.
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