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EagerBeaver

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Not surprising. Connecticut (along with NY,NJ, and RI) is to Italian Americans what Quebec is to French Canadians. Not only is the pizza better there, so are the cannolis. You can't have it all. What Montreal lacks in pizza it makes up for in pussy - a fair tradeoff, in my opinion.

Although there is no comparison between Montreal and the tri-state area in pizza, I would say Montreal is as good or better than what we have locally in terms of bakery goods and cheese. Montreal supermarkets have a consistently better selection of cheese than we do in the tri-state area, probably because French Canadians eat more cheese. The bakeries I have been to in Montreal, especially the one at the Atwater market, are impressive. Montreal also has more coffee shops per capita, or at least a greater variety of coffee shops. There are 5 coffee shops within 2 blocks of the Hotel Intercontinental.

Regarding cannolis, if you go the San Gennaro Festival in New York City in September, you will never see more cannolis in your life. All different sizes, colors, flavors and variations on fillings and they are also selling HDH cannolis which I believe have some kind of special ricotta cheese in them. Those HDH cannolis can go for $5 each.
 
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Getting back to pizza, I neglected to mention that there are two different restaurants at the food court at the Centre de Commerce (adjacent to the Hotel Intercontinental/Centre de Commerce atrium) that are selling pizza by the slice. On my recent trip I did not try either one, but I had wanted to. Just did not get to it. One of them is selling traditional pizza by the slice, served with pepperoni and other toppings or just plain cheese. It looked decent. The other place is selling something they are calling foccacia, but it looks like a slice of pizza with various toppings and melted cheese. Those two restaurants are right next to each other on the south side of that food court.
 
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Regarding cannolis, if you go the San Gennaro Festival in New York City in September, you will never see more cannolis in your life. All different sizes, colors, flavors and variations on fillings and they are also selling HDH cannolis which I believe have some kind of special ricotta cheese in them. Those HDH cannolis can go for $5 each.

HDH cannolis ... nice ... LOL
 

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About Amelio's ,

It's a Bring Your Own Bottle of wine (or beer)

But for me, best pizza in Montreal is Bottega on St-Zotique St. near St-Laurent

I also like the one from Pizzeria Napolitana on Dante St. (also a BYOB)
 

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Il Focolaio on Phillips Square has very good thin crust pizza. However, I do not believe they sell by the slice.
 

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About Amelio's ,

But for me, best pizza in Montreal is Bottega on St-Zotique St. near St-Laurent

I also like the one from Pizzeria Napolitana on Dante St. (also a BYOB)


When it comes to pizza (as a meal) I also like to eat out in the Little Italy.
I think it's important here on this thread to distinguish between eating pizza (or a slice of pizza) as a lunch or eating pizza as a whole meal with a gastronomical intent..

In the first case you don't care too much about what you are eating. The function of the pizza slice is only to fill up your stomach and that's about it. A Coke, Pepsi or Sprite is the perfect drink to that kind of food. You don't really mind what you eat; it's sufficient that it is edible. For me, a size pizza place is in this category.

In the second place (displaying the concet of slow food) a pizza is more perceived as a gastronomical experience in tiself with less common ingredients (capers, pecorino, anchovies, cauliflowers, egg-plants, etc.) and you eat it while drinking a good wine.
 
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I agree buying pizza buy the slice is almost always never good I even wonder where the hell do they get there ingredients because the cheese does not even taste like mozzarella and the pepperoni don't get me started on that...btw pepperoni is a north american invention which does not exist in Italy..like everything else in this world you pay for what you get!
 

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the cheese does not even taste like mozzarella and the pepperoni don't get me started on that...btw pepperoni is a north american invention which does not exist in Italy..like everything else in this world you pay for what you get!

Maximus,

Before I went to graduate school, I worked as a manager of a pizzeria in a Connecticut city for 3 years. The restaurant I managed was something of a gold mine; on a typical Friday night we grossed $10,000 as a delivery operation only. That was mainly because we delivered and had a large range and hired young, aggressive drivers willing to drive into bad neighborhoods with their own cars and the business's signs strapped to the roof. When things got busy I also went out on the road to deliver any backlog of pies that accumulated.

I learned a lot about the art of making pizza, and one of the first things I learned from the owners was that the quality of the cheese was the most important thing, and next most important was the crust, followed by the sauce. The cheese we were using was a top part skim mozzerella cheese. We also used all fresh ingredients, including fresh mushrooms. Mushroom pies are very difficult because when they are baked they let out a ton of water, and you really need to be careful cooking them because you will end up with a soup instead of a pizza otherwise.

I had an excellent crew of guys working for me who were mostly young hispanics. One of them, who was from Peru, was the most talented pizza maker I have ever met in my life. I could take cold dough out of the cooler and that kid could spin a piece of cold dough (which we stored them in 6" balls), that was cold and hard as a horny bull's prick, into a makeable pizza dough in seconds. I never saw anyone like that and let me tell you, it is very hard when you are very busy and taking cold dough out of the cooler to spin it quickly into a makeable pie. Generally we took the dough out of the cooler and let it warm to room temperature in advance, because the warm dough is easy to work with, but sometimes when we got busy the dough manager lost track of what the reserves were and emergency action had to be taken on the reserved cold dough in the cooler. It was in those situations that it was critical to have a talented dough spinner, and I usually had at least 2. By the ways, when you were forced to cook cold dough in emergency situations, it was a problem because that is when the dough bubbles and you have to break the bubbles with special tools otherwise the pizza comes out all fucked up.

I learned everything about what it takes to run a successful pizza business. It's all about the ingredients you are using, and the delivery time. We were the best delivery op in the city with only Dominoes as our competition, and their pizza completely sucked compared to ours due to inferior ingredients. The pizza operations I have seen in Montreal are not doing 1/20th of the business that I was doing at this restaurant back in the 1980s.
 
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One thing i have always disliked about pizza by the slice is it is almost never hot, you are lucky if it is luke warm.
 

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My best pizza place is north of Montreal .... In laval
o'milanos on boulevard dagenais.....
They changed owners., but the last time I went.. It was the same recipe from 17 years ago.
Homemade dough, homemade sauce, stacked almost 3/4 inch of pepperoni.., and loaded with mouth watering fresh cheese
I've been looking for a homestyle real Pizza like this in Montreal for 5 years now..
So great thread idea...
By the way... I love omilanos so much... That every so often I get the guy to bring me a pizza when they are close to closing. And it's calm.....( I'm usually not in the best state to drive when this happens)
anyways... I give them a 20$ delivery fee.. And they usually come out.
It's that good.
 

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You can get a good slice at the tiny pizza counter on De La Montagne, close to Ste Catherine. It's right across the street from Rosalie/Club 1234. I think it's called Da Giovanni.
I concur. I tried one of the pizza slices there and it was good.
 

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I agree buying pizza buy the slice is almost always never good I even wonder where the hell do they get there ingredients because the cheese does not even taste like mozzarella and the pepperoni don't get me started on that...btw pepperoni is a north american invention which does not exist in Italy..like everything else in this world you pay for what you get!
As long as the Pizza isn't sitting too long I actually like eating pizza's by the slice, even better than personal sized pizza's. Also it depends on where you get it, there are a few places I have been to where individual slices are freshly cooked. If you can find any in Montreal that does so, then you might want to try one. Thankfully there is one that makes pizza by the slice that way where I live in downtown Columbus, Ohio near where I work. It's also one of the only places in Ohio outside of Cleveland, where I have gotten real mozzarella on Pizza. Most commercial Pizza shops in the U.S, such as Pizza Hut use processed mozzarella, that lacks the stringiness that real mozzarella has, and most of the mom and pop shops don't either anymore.

Actually I liked the two samples of Pizza in Montreal that I tried. One was an Italian Restaurant that I think was on St. Catherines, or near it. It was pretty close to the Crepes place if I recall. The other was a walk up pizza slice place that was about a block away from the Hotel Le Crystal I stayed at. Both were a lot better than the typical Pizza's I get in Columbus, Ohio, especially the Pizza slice place, which if I remember even had the stringy mozzarella I like. The restaurant on or near St. Catherines had a calzone like folded bread that was delicious. Then there was this nice more upscale Italian restaurant nearby that had one of the best Gnocchi dishes I had in years.

I also think it's funny that some people here have complained about Pizza in Montreal, especially since Pizza as we know it is a North American Invention, and started showing up in the U.S. and Canada, about the same time and wasn't imported back to Italy in the current form until the mid 1960's. Every area thinks their's is the best, the most entertaining is the competition that goes on between the Chicago Style vs. New York style that seems to never end. About the only style I can't stand is California Style, which is starting to show up in Ohio and to the horror of my friends in New York state, in Albany and Buffalo.

My maternal grandmother grew up in Calabria, Italy in the 1920's and 30's and my maternal grandfather in a heavily Italian Neighborhood in Philadelphia and later Cleveland. Both grandparents, along with my mom who grew up in the 40s near Cleveland, told me many times, that when there was no such thing as what we call pizza now when they grew up, or in my mom's case not until she was a teenager. Now that I think of it, this probably explains why I like Pizza in Cleveland better than Columbus.

The closest thing they ate was a flat bread, similar to foccacia, with olive oil, herbs and maybe some vegetables, but it wasn't a complete meal. These "pizzas" had no tomato sauce and no melted cheese on the bread, the only cheese on the bread was grated Romano. Tomato sauce, cheese and pepperoni was added later. My mom made me this a few times and it's pretty good, but unfortunately I haven't been able to find it in any restaurants. About the closest would be bruchetta.
 

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montreal as a food city is very misleading. the food in the usa is much better, starting with produce. quebec has the grimiest produce in n america and I have no clue why.
I thought Montreal had some of the best food I have eaten in a while. Then again it may be because you live there that you don't see it as such, and May was my first visit to Montreal. I have had people occasionally tell me that Columbus, Ohio, where I live, has surprisingly good restaurants, and I have looked at them like they are nuts several times. To me it's boring because I live there, and personally has some of the most boring food in North America.
 

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One reason why by the slice pizza is not that good is that you get a pizza that has cooled before it is served. I wait for the pizzas to come out of the oven. This seems to annoy the heck out of the servers.
 

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One reason why by the slice pizza is not that good is that you get a pizza that has cooled before it is served. I wait for the pizzas to come out of the oven. This seems to annoy the heck out of the servers.

If you are a good sell-by-the-slice operation, you light bake the pie, and then when the customer orders the slice(s), you put them in the oven and complete the baking of the pie. It is really that simple, and most good sell-by-the-slice operations do it this way. There is no reason to ever serve cold pizza.
 

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A real pizza is cooked in a pizza oven, the reason the by the slice pizzas taste terrible is that many are cooked under a conveyor broiler oven where the heat is above the pizza rather than all around it.
 
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