Need info regarding bars/clubs where classy SPs hangout for date. How to recognise one in a bar/club??
looking for classy SPs in Bars/clubs
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Hotel de la Montagne and Thursday's. They're obvious in the hotel bar. Not so sure about Thursday's.
ANyone have any info on these ladies, are any GFE types or pure mechanical wham bang thank u man types. What's the price range?
I'm surprised to see Queen Elizabeth in this category. That's where I stay and the I have not seen hot ladies at the bar that you can distinguish from the business crowd.
The SP scene in the bars/clubs sounds intriguing but I'm curious as to the kind of experience that one should expect. If these ladies are really the complete package in terms of looks, intelligence and class, why would they choose to spend their evenings roaming the bars in search of a client instead of simply joining a higher priced agency or setting up a website and becoming an independent?
Looking for clients in bars is inefficient since the escort is never sure about the kind of crowd that the bars might attact in any one night, there is also the issue of discretion; given enough time, all the waiters, bartenders and regular patrons will know what the attractive lady sitting in the corner is really doing. The SP is also at greater risk since she hasn't had sufficient time to screen the client; that risk can be mitigated by using a driver but the added cost can be quite substantial.
Assuming that these SPs aren't the clueless or messed up streetwalker types, the most probable explanation is that they can earn a lot more than a popular higher priced independent with an internet website which in turn means their clients at the bars are paying substantially more than CAD450+/2hrs. Not such a good proposition for a hobbyist whom apart from having to pay the higher rates, also has to pray that the SP whom he just met isn't going to scam him.
Looking for clients in bars is inefficient since the escort is never sure about the kind of crowd that the bars might attact in any one night, there is also the issue of discretion; given enough time, all the waiters, bartenders and regular patrons will know what the attractive lady sitting in the corner is really doing. The SP is also at greater risk since she hasn't had sufficient time to screen the client; that risk can be mitigated by using a driver but the added cost can be quite substantial.
Assuming that these SPs aren't the clueless or messed up streetwalker types, the most probable explanation is that they can earn a lot more than a popular higher priced independent with an internet website which in turn means their clients at the bars are paying substantially more than CAD450+/2hrs. Not such a good proposition for a hobbyist whom apart from having to pay the higher rates, also has to pray that the SP whom he just met isn't going to scam him.
oliver,
Seeing that you are not proficient with English, it is understandable as to why you misunderstood my statement. I`m fairly certain that this is not the first time that you have failed to understand someone else`s argument so given your track record, why do you go about making such stupid, inflammatory comments without clarifying the other person`s position first?
`Or` is a term used to connect words representing alternatives. Therefore, when I say ``clueless or messed up streetwalker types``, I am saying that a streetwalker is clueless but isn`t necessarily messed up and vice versa. Hence, the x agency or private girl who works the street and is well dressed and attractive isn`t necessarily messed up but is clueless. If your brain hasn`t short circuited from the overload of information presented so far, you can see that my statement does not contradict your observation of a well dressed, attractive streetwalker.
You want to talk about the most beautiful and succesful escorts in Montreal, why don`t you name a few of them? If you can`t, maybe it is because you have never met any of them before? Let me give you a hand, Emma and Melanie of FKS should make most people`s lists. What about Serina of companions? Do you seriously think when business is down and to maintain their standard of living that they actually have to go out and work the streets or bars? Apart from the obvious dangers, there is also the issue of your friends seeing you ply your trade, being an escort isn`t exactly something you proudly tell your friends and family about. In fact, I know of at least one higher-end escort who will not do dinner dates because she is afraid of the exposure. You want to talk about easy money, going for a dinner in a nice restaurant and getting paid, that sounds pretty good to me.
Any escort who is not clueless will be able to anticipate with a large degree of accuracy the off peak seasons so they can either see more clients during the peak season to smooth out the drop in income during down time or tour other cities. Do you know how much the top Montreal escorts can fetch when they tour cities in the United States? Touring American cities has its risks and downsides but it sure beats working the streets by a long shot.
The fact that the girl has to start at the bottom and work her way up shows she is clueless, that is, she has no clue of what the SP industry is really like. Being an SP is not like working at a regular job where years of experience is a plus. Would you prefer a newcomer or one who has been working for the past 20 years? Do you think the owner of a higher-priced agency is going to turn away a beautiful escort who is just starting out, telling her that she has to work at a lower-priced agency and get some experience first before he can hire her?
A smart, non-clueless, attractive escort will do her research and get the best deal for herself and it is clear that working the streets is not the best deal. Agencies do take a large cut of the girls` earning but the good ones have a large client base, try calling Asservissante at 9pm on the weekends and chances are Martin won`t have anyone available. An attractive girl at Asservissante can be sure that she will go home with CAD400-500 for 5-7 hrs of work; a girl who doesn`t know which are the good agencies is clueless. Maybe you have been roaming the streets for too long but do you know how degrading it must be for an SP to service a John in some fleabag motel or his car, how scary and depressing it must be for a streetwalker to know that out there, there are Johns who will beat her up just because they feel like it and she`s not going to have a driver to save her? Yeah, I`m sure smart, non-clueless SPs choose to streetwalk.
Even assuming the attractive streetwalkers can earn as much or more than the attractive lower-priced agency escorts, that will only be on certain nights. One good day or week does not equal one good month, let alone a good year. Why do you think the good agencies offer the time guarantee? That`s because they want repeat customers and to build up their reputations. If a streetwalker doesn`t deliver, are you going to see her again? What kind of income stream do you think an attractive streetwalkers can get?
You claim that many of the SPs that I see at $200+ would not even get $60 on the streets, I highly doubt that and the difference between the two markets is so big that any comparison is quite pointless. But your claim has totally contradicted everything in your last post, if the girls that I see at $200+ cannot even get $60 on the street, then they are obviously clueless if they choose to work on the streets since they can earn more drinking champagne and eating strawberries in my 4* hotel room rather than screwing you for $60 in some dinghy motel room (in case, you can`t count, $200 > $60).
Your writing is confused and so is your analysis. It`s undeniable that you have seen much of the street scene and have a lot to offer to other curb crawling hobbyists but you might want to spend some time sorting out your thoughts before posting crap and insulting your fellow posters.
Traveler,
I could be misreading your post but it seems like you think I'm disagreeing with your observations of attractive SPs in the bars. My point was that I believe there are highly attractive escorts working the bars but that they were probably charging a lot more than CAD450+/2hrs without much of a service guarantee.
As for the computer illiteracy problem, that might be a factor but it seems unlikely that it is a major one given how 'networked' these ladies are; they should know someone who can help them out.
I also don't think working the bars is safer than the independent internet escort gig since the independent would have obtained at least the client's full name and hotel room number prior to the engagement and thus would have at the very least been able to tell a friend where she will be and for how long.
That leaves the "pricing flexiblity" point which sounds to me like I should be emptying my pockets, LOL.
I have done something similar to the bar scene in a different country and while it can be fun, IMO the bar scene has more than its fair share of problems like whether to pay first or not and what to do if the SP decides to cut short the date after getting paid. Also, what should one do if the stunner at the bar turns out to have a less than ideal body? Its amazing how adept some of these ladies are at hiding major physical flaws. I just find it easier to deal with a reputable higher-end agency escort or independent.
Perhaps you could shed some light on this by providing more detailed information on the ladies like reviews, rates, etc.
I saw in an earlier post that one SP has a Monday-Thursday schedule in the lobby bar.
Anyone have an idea what kind of scene I might be able to expect on a Friday night?
Anyone have an idea what kind of scene I might be able to expect on a Friday night?
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Wednesday nite at Thursdays Bar is usually slow with mostly tourists from the Hotels. There are usually 2 or 3 SP`s workin the bar near the north entrance and are easy to spot. They are young , well dressed and sitting alone, will make eye contact with you and sometimes even come by and sit for a drink. Quite comical to watch at times, as they sometimes bounce from guy to guy seizing up prospective takers.
Also, chat up the bartenders at Thursdays as they are a wealth of information!
On most nites the Hotel de la Montange Bar (just a 30 second walk from Thursdays Bar) usually has a couple older SP`s (30`s and 40`s) sitting at the bar, they are usually alone and make eye contact easily.
The asking rates vary depending on the girl and on how much they think u will pay (ie. leave the Rolex at home and don`t wear your Toronto Maple Leafs cap!)
Ricola
-- Over and Out ---
Wednesday nite at Thursdays Bar is usually slow with mostly tourists from the Hotels. There are usually 2 or 3 SP`s workin the bar near the north entrance and are easy to spot. They are young , well dressed and sitting alone, will make eye contact with you and sometimes even come by and sit for a drink. Quite comical to watch at times, as they sometimes bounce from guy to guy seizing up prospective takers.
Also, chat up the bartenders at Thursdays as they are a wealth of information!
On most nites the Hotel de la Montange Bar (just a 30 second walk from Thursdays Bar) usually has a couple older SP`s (30`s and 40`s) sitting at the bar, they are usually alone and make eye contact easily.
The asking rates vary depending on the girl and on how much they think u will pay (ie. leave the Rolex at home and don`t wear your Toronto Maple Leafs cap!)
Ricola
-- Over and Out ---
I have been to Montagne. Never tried the service but just looked around. Some of the girls have pimps (some discreet, some blatantly obvious) so they don't get the full share of the fee. Some of the girls are blatantly SPs high on something. Would you prefer to pay a pimp or an agency?
I rather pay an independant the full fee knowing that she gets all of it.
Max
I rather pay an independant the full fee knowing that she gets all of it.
Max
It's been a while since someone wrote on this topic....
So, is Hotel de la Montagne still a good place to meet an SP? Anywhere else in Montreal?
And what should one expect from these types of services?
Thanks
So, is Hotel de la Montagne still a good place to meet an SP? Anywhere else in Montreal?
And what should one expect from these types of services?
Thanks
I was told by hotel security at a high class hotel in another city that they do not bother any ladies if they do not approach guest at the hotel, if the guess approaches the lady then it is OK. If a lady breaks the rules, the hotel security is only allowed to stand very close to her so she can not transact business. At least that is the official word, a BJ bribe will do wonders.
And exactly how did you "notice" them? Half the women in there are dressed like hookers, but that doesn't mean they are for sale.
Dave Chappelle talks about women who dress like whores.
Captain, leebov failed to mentioned that most of these 15-20 in the whore uniforms had price tags attached to the bikini bottoms that they were wearing.
