Losing virginity to sp....

[TheNewGuy101]

So yeah im going to be that guy asking this question....
So im in my late 20s and have screwed up every chance ive had to be with a woman because im super shy/nervous/scared and now that ive gotten so old i have no idea how to even approach a woman. It's become a tremendous weight on my shoulders and i thought to myself why not just pay an sp to take my virginity and at the same time teach how to be with a woman to boost my self confidence. Does this make any sense? I'm currently on a bunch of blow just to get the courage to ask this question on this board...thats where im at right now. I've tried calling an agency before and actually had a beautifull girl come to my place but i was too high to even get hard and she didnt want to kiss me or anything so i just spent my money for nothing really.
What do you guys think i should do and do you have any suggestions on who i should contact for this type of thing?
Thanks in advance...

 

[charmer_]

First off, no SP is going to want to be with you if you're majorly high/drunk. It's very bad etiquette, and could potentially get you blacklisted with agencies/indys/etc.

Second of all, high 20s is not old at all, lol. You've got plenty of years to meet someone the old fashion way (ie. through friends, bars, work/school, etc).

Also, starting out with SPs is setting the bar extremely high from the get-go. Any non-SP you see afterwards will pale in comparison action/beauty wise, and you might not be able to break the habit once you start. Just saying.

 

[gologill]

I just forget to say that...

You might want for your first time to get a dinner date with the girl before going for the fun stuff might be a good idea

First off, no SP is going to want to be with you if you're majorly high/drunk.

 

[westwoody]

I'm currently on a bunch of blow just to get the courage to ask this question on this board

You need coke to give you courage to ask a question on an anonymous board?

Wow.

Deal with your drug dependency before worrying about being a virgin. Guys that are high are very annoying according to every escort I know.

 

[jalimon]

You need coke to give you courage to ask a question on an anonymous board?

Wow.

Deal with your drug dependency before worrying about being a virgin. Guys that are high are very annoying according to every escort I know.

Got to agree with westwoody here. Solve one problem at a time. The girls needs your trust, if your high, you loose.

Cheers,

 

[Halloween Mike]

Been there done that.... well not the drug part, loosing virginity to an SP (i was in my mid 20s)

I also partook into providing one dude with his virginity loss when i was a booker for a short period. It was actually quite an experience. His mom called me first, and then she gave the phone to him. They really apreicated my help and the guy Must have spent 40 mins on the phone with them reassuring them and such.

If you need help, i can assist you. Drop me a PM if you wish for a more personal conversation.

But yes i agree with everybody, keep your mind there fully. No drugs, no alchool before she get there aka not being drunk.

 

[clark_larson]

I had a friend in your situation. He graduated at 24. Had a good job. He's average looking and he doesn't know how to talk to women. Eventually he met a girl at 31 and lost his virginity. He then had another girlfriend he's been with her for some time. The only thing I would tell you is don't get things distorted in your head. When you'll be 35 you won't be banging 21 y.o. There is a difference between the women you pay and the women you date. My friend is dating average looking girls but they're serious enough so he can start a family with them, he'll never hear crazy stories from them.

So, my only advice is if you decide to do it, know there is a difference when you start thinking about building something serious you might want to lower your expectations in terms of beauty and start looking at long term stability, anyways most women stop being attractive at around 40.

 

[Numerati]

Losing your virginity to a top notch escort is awesome. And no you will not develop some high standard or set your bar high. Actually the women in your life going forward will thank that escort and they wouldn't even know it. The hard part is picking that awesome escort. I say best is to find an experience indy and be willing to dish out cash if you have to. That first experience means a lot I can tell you that. If it is memorable and amazing it can carry well for you going forward with sexual intimacy.

Looking back personally I really wish I lost it to an awesome memorable SP.

 

[jalimon]

anyways most women stop being attractive at around 40.

wrong and so wrong... you should see my ex. She is not with me anymore but that is ok I can put my ego aside and still say that at 45 she rocks big time

Cheers,

 

[Numerati]

When you'll be 35 you won't be banging 21 y.o. There is a difference between the women you pay and the women you date. My friend is dating average looking girls but they're serious enough so he can start a family with them, he'll never hear crazy stories from them..

From 30 to 45 you can definitely bang 21 year olds. Actually that is the best age range.

 

[charmer_]

From 30 to 45 you can definitely bang 21 year olds. Actually that is the best age range.

You're talking about non-SPs? Hard to find 21 year olds that'd bang a dude that's over 40 (unless you have George Clooney looks or something).

 

[Numerati]

If you take care of yourself physically and have $$$$. Look I am 40 and yet I look like I am in my mid-20s. Maybe that helps I don't know. From 2011 to end of 2015 I took some time away from the hobby. Why? Because I was hooking up with 21 to 28 year olds. Where did I meet them? At my gym. My yoga classes. Cooking classes. Improv classes. Wanted to hop back in 2016 but I met a really hot 28 year old in my boot camp class but that didn't work out because she moved to the other side of the country. And why did I want to hop back into the hobby now? The quality came back this year and a half ago and the exchange rate has become favorable for starters. Also for the instant gratification with seeing an SP. No time wasted. Money is not an issue for me nowadays.

Most importantly non-SPs start to ask the wrong questions after a while which I will end up leaving fast. SPs don't ask those stupid questions. I value my freedom and independence. If she tries to take them away and try to lock me down she is not going to like what is coming next very quickly.

I can say that you can be in your 20s and if you are fat, lack style and carry that desperate look in your eyes you aren't going to get anywhere. By your 30s you tend to get some life experience under your belt and hopefully have a much bigger bank account. You learn and fuck up in your early to mid-20s. By late 20s to around mid-40s if you get your act and shit together you don't need to be George Clooney and whatever limited beliefs that have been polluting your mind.

 

[SylvainP]

wrong and so wrong... you should see my ex. She is not with me anymore but that is ok I can put my ego aside and still say that at 45 she rocks big time

Cheers,

Completely agree with you, jalimon. I did not know your ex, but I know some women in their 40s an 50s that are beautiful!

 

[clark_larson]

wrong and so wrong... you should see my ex. She is not with me anymore but that is ok I can put my ego aside and still say that at 45 she rocks big time

Cheers,

You can't compare your ex girlfriend to a 20 year old. Young girls have a freshness that goes away at around 30. I recently read an article written by an ex supermodel stating that she felt she became invisible after 50.(Making the proper adjustments to the remaining 95% of the population, I'd say this occurs at around 40) Maybe your ex-girlfriend is a supermodel.

Regarding getting 20 y.o. I've seen a few cases where the girl dates an older man. But those girls have daddy issues or the income difference is huge. So, unless you're someone making a lot of cash, it won't happen. At least you know why the girl is dating you. I believe love is real, but it won't get you far when you're in relationship. Your bank account matters, your education, what you look like, your charisma, women calculate all those things before settling down. If you're an engineer making 75K a year and you're average looking and your girlfriend makes 70k a year being a chemist don't expect her to be extremely hot. However, if you start dating a waitress at 35k a year, then you have some leverage to get some beauty...(On the other hand you would have to leave aside stability). If you're a doctor making 250K a year you can get all the hot engineers, chemists and possibly female doctors. I call it "love accountancy".

You need to treat women's beauty as a currency, exactly as a currency.(it also loses value over time.) So, a 20 y.o. hottie comes at you and you want to date her, she asks you what you got? What are you gonna answer? I got a 40k loan, a 75k salary my dick and my charisma. What do you think she'll say back? Fuck off. But if you got a paid Porsche Panamera a nice apartment in westmount, she'll want to move in with you. I've experienced both ends of the spectrum.

I used to be broke nearly declared bankruptcy and I can tell you no women will want to settle down with you when you're there. My luck turned around and got reasonably wealthy I can almost feel when women start doing the math in their heads and it sickens me. Even the most respectable women will do it. It all comes down to get the best chances of survival. If women were charitable the human kind would be long instinct and since men only go with their dicks someone has to do the hard work.

In any case, modulate your expectations with respect to your means.

 

[Numerati]

I can definitely agree with you on the Westmount situation. When I was living in Montreal from 2007 to 2009, the moment I tell a girl I live in Westmount the eyes light up.

Back to topic. Nothing wrong with losing your virginity to an experience pro. Actually will do you wonders to your psyche and your interactions with women going forward.

 

[clark_larson]

It might give you a boost of confidence, but really that confidence is not justified, you paid the girl to make you feel like a god.

When I became very conscious about my car, my apartment and my clothes I started taking the metro and used track suits when I was not seeing clients.

 

[Numerati]

General Gonad is back?

Oh the limited beliefs and that moral high ground. Maybe in trying to save the dolphins and little Haitian kids. When it comes to women it is warfare. At times very dirty subtle warfare. This hobby removes that unless you are one of those idiot white knights who just don't know any better.

 

[clark_larson]

I'm just a dick with no gonads.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Well maybe you guys should give the guy a break with the drugs... he said he was high, thats all, for all we know he could had just smoke weed...

I think he got it... no drugs for next meeting. Now any other more productive thinsg to say?

 

[sugarbear1966]

No Mike, he actually stated he's "on a bunch of blow"... blow=cocaine

I believe he's received some solid '' Life Advice" and as for whether or not to spend first time with an SP...if he's not sentimental about who the first time is with, then he should go ahead with it. I'm sure the members here would be able to recommend appropriate SP's for the matter at hand.