All I meant was that without the SPs on the board, this place would likely be extremely toxic and misogynistic. A lot of men only show their true colors when there's no women around.
MERB members / clients. Why are you here? UPDATED
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I landed on this board looking for stripclub info.. I was very young, I started on the stripclub list then landed here. Was looking for higher mileage clubs. I was restricted to downtown and even back then those clubs sucked. I noticed how this board was primarily for escorts, I did not indulge in an escort till many years after. I never been a regular of escorts, I use it from time to time. These days I got my regulars which I meet at stripclubs, some of these girls I have been seeing for years in private. These days I am here out of boredom, checking the latest gossip and the political threads. I indulged last week in an escort from this board.
This board doesn’t magically become toxic just because a few SPs step away from their keyboards. If anything, some of the worst infighting and virtue-signaling comes from the so-called female presence. Let’s not act like toxicity is exclusive to men or that female involvement automatically raises the moral bar.
Go to twitter, you have not seen how much misandry there is. Those women show their true colors when there are no men around.
I wonder who is the owner of x that allows them to have a plateform
Any place online is going to have some level of toxicity, regardless of genders. I never said otherwise.
Have you ever spent much time in any forums that are sex-related and only men? The term SP would not be getting used, it would mostly be replaced with various slurs.
I wasn't aware this was such a hot take. Seems like I may have triggered a few people. I honestly don't know why.
I initiated conversations with clients as well and some SPs and some client and SPs did the same with me.
Usually it’s a personal follow up of what I’ve written on board. Same for me with somebody who posted something interesting.
On both cases, I sporadically send PMs and in rare cases, I got frequent ones with friendly members/SPs.
If the I see the other party is being bored and/or the fun factor is out, then I let go (or I go) away…
This is probably where some members tries to extend a conversation and then the other party (especially SPs) simply ghost an endless sterile exchange …and that’s all right. I guess in context of SPs, they should receive plenty of messages with more or less interests (probably a lot more with less interests).
Once the initial reply is done, it should normally stop there unless there is some interest and/or fun factor from both side.
I’ve had people send me their horny confessions like I’m supposed to whip out my rose toy and jerk off to it (that’s what OF is for). Others carrot dangle, waste my time, tell me how hot I am and how they’ll book … it’s been a year+. Some of these guys are known MERB members who said they’d love to hang out socially - but won’t pay for it. One even tried to sleep with me for free LMAO. Point is - we already have to sift through people who aren’t even on this board that contact us for non serious inquiries.
I ain’t Santa Claus writing cute letters to who’s been good or naughty. At the end of the day, a lot of guys just like the idea of reaching out to SPs. It makes them feel seen or validated.
Except that we know this to be true. Doesn't have to be sp's, male-only spaces are dramatically more toxic across-the-board (frats, sports teams, male-dominated industries, etc). Besides the numerous studies, anyone growing up during the proliferation of the internet knows that this is made exponentially worse with the anonymity of being online (xbox live, reddit, etc). If there were no sp's on this board this place would be a never-ending dumpster fire, instead of the occasional trash-can blaze.
In fact, because it's sps on here (as opposed to civilian/non-industry women) I think many men here think that the discourse is allowed to be just one level up from barbaric. Some of the shit typed here no one would have the balls to say to any human being in real-life ever.
Interesting logic. Every mess is men’s fault, and women just walk in and fix it by existing? Sure, there’s a balance to everything. Female and male energies can absolutely complement each other - but let’s not pretend that having both around makes things healthier. Dysfunction comes in all forms.
It’s not true that men here would suddenly turn into cavemen grunting over mammoth meat if women left. A lot of the unhinged commentary you’re referring to already happens - and it ain’t gender specific. Take a look at Twitter as @CLOUD 500 stated earlier. It ain’t a pretty sight on some SPs posts hahaha.
Being an asshole isn’t a gender - it’s a personality type and there’s plenty in every flavour everywhere
I personally think this is a load of crap. I've belonged to somewhere between 15-20 boards over the course of my adventures. MERB is the only one that has SPs as active contributing members on it (PERB and TERB too, of course. When I refer to MERB I'm usually also referring to the sister sites) and it isn't any more civilized than almost any of the other boards I've been on, with two exceptions, neither of which are around now. The two boards that were non-civilized were both founded by guys who got booted off of other boards for being assholes. Like seeks out like and there you go. Most boards are very polite (in a general sense), very civilized and the membership alignment is much greater than it is here, so you don't get some of that push-pull that exists here between SPs and board members and there is a greater sense of "brotherhood" for lack of a better word.
There are two major differences. Most boards have some kind of a low paywall to climb over to get to the useful stuff, so member paid rather than SP paid. That has very different consequences that I'm not going to get into here and now. They also usually have a free area that equates roughly to the lounge here. The second difference is that they aggressively try to keep SPs, agencies and shills off the board. They correctly believe that they get better, more detailed and more candid information that way, and that fraudsters and thieves are less able to adapt quickly by changing name/MO/hair colour etc. if they don't know the guys are onto them. It is absolutely true that this culture has prevented a number of men from getting ripped off or worse at the hands of bad actors. Merb is unique in that it offers the SP perspective and an insight into at least a small number of providers and agencies, and some of the educational stuff is better and more generally useful here because of that, if you apply the right filters. So, you trade off more comprehensive information for a broader world view locally.
Do guys call SPs filthy names on other boards? No, not usually. They also don't call them SPs (something else virtually unique to MERB) Most of the time they are simply referred to as girls. girls that work in MPs are usually MP girls. Occasionally when there is a local nickname that is used (eg. jineteras, ticas, paisas, pinays etc.etc) which are almost universally non-derogatory. There's assholes in every bunch, but aside from some locker room comments that come up here and there the vast majority of the guys are respectful when talking about the girls. CRT even labels itself as a "Gentlemen's forum". What is almost universal elsewhere is that white knights are aggressively slammed (being grouped in with shills, but again board culture differences apply. It's not like here) and the worst epithets I usually see are reserved for them. on MERB they get free ice cream.
I'm not saying one or the other is better or not for any individual. What I am saying is that MERB is not representative of what monger boards are usually like. It's the outlier, not the norm. Coming back to the point, guys do not become a band of aggressive cavemen the moment the ladies leave town. Almost every other board out there is proof of this. What does happen on this board is that there is a small group of guys that work to curry favour with SPs here, and are consequently more genteel and vocal in support of said ladies, in a way that most other boards would never put up with. So again, pluses and minuses, but with the impression that the men here are better behaved. They're not, but their behaviour is definitely different on MEB because of the presence of the ladies, no question.
Having both genders around does actually makes things healthier, as is the case with almost any big group - mixed viewpoints/life experiences/ideologies promotes more well-rounded thinking, but that's a big leap from what I said to "every mess is men's fault." This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone except people that are looking for praise from like-minded people. That's an echo-chamber and it's what we're seeing all over every form of media nowadays esp. Twitter lol.Interesting logic. Every mess is men’s fault, and women just walk in and fix it by existing? Sure, there’s a balance to everything. Female and male energies can absolutely complement each other - but let’s not pretend that having both around makes things healthier. Dysfunction comes in all forms.
It’s not true that men here would suddenly turn into cavemen grunting over mammoth meat if women left. A lot of the unhinged commentary you’re referring to already happens - and it ain’t gender specific. Take a look at Twitter as @CLOUD 500 stated earlier. It ain’t a pretty sight on some SPs posts hahaha.
Being an asshole isn’t a gender - it’s a personality type and there’s plenty in every flavour everywhere
This whole forum is an asshole-generating machine, as per the Ratified Equation for Internet Fuckery (Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience = Total Fuckwad), like virtually every online meeting place, but if you took the women away it would be much much worse. The fact that there are some women on here willing to comment and defend themselves, even against each other or when it probably isn't good business to do it, is the only reason this place doesn't de-evolve further.
I'm sorry you might have felt some way about comments from your peers (whether you regard them as such or not) but there was probably something to be learned in their differing viewpoints. To borrow your analogy above: If I was a mammoth, I wouldn't be asking the cavemen how they like their meat cooked.
Defending themselves when a client lies I’m all for it.Talking about ideologies also. But trying to impose them and trying to tell clients social dates are there whether you like it or not is no good. Also shaming clients for seeing agency girls ain’t their business you can think it’s bad but no place for you to shame em. You talk about them as if guys are all retarded and SPs are their moms that need to tell them how to behave. They are business people not a mother, a father a priest or a rabbi or an imam. Just like they don’t want to be shamed for being sps clients shouldn’t either. Also you should check out some extremist hardcore misandrists posts on x and TikTok. Those are with men around. Imagine without them. P.s Im not talking about everyone just about a hardcore segment of anti men people.
"But trying to impose them and trying to tell clients social dates are there whether you like it or not is no good."
I don't understand this sentence. Are there people being forced to go on dates with providers?
I never said people are being forced lol. Don’t twist my words. No one is forcing me or anyone to do anything here. But yes some impose it by putting their social dates ads left and right. Most clients do not care for it. We will see what they answer in this survey. If I’m proven wrong and we find that most clients love social dates, I will retract my statement and you can be happy. Not arguing this further.
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I wasn't trying to argue. That was a question not an accusation as the statement before was vague. Only 42.9% even want to book providers. Because the majority here don't want to book providers for intimacy should providers stop advertising that? The next highest bar at 14% is "boredom".
There are some services I'm not a huge fan of. I don't want to be dominated. If we did a poll maybe the majority don't want that. We have different opinions but you don't have to believe the same thing as others and I don't have to believe the same thing. All of the people who advertise social dates also offer GFE. There's no one on here who exclusively offers social dates. I'm pretty sure a majority of providers on here offer social dates.
It would be interesting to see the most and least popular services. Based on what I know from SWs I know in real life (Like actually knowing them outside of work and knowing their real name) the least popular services can be the biggest money makers.
Also if most of the people here don't book providers I don't see why providers should care about this poll. The same providers I'm going to have private and public time with are also down to have private time with people.
I guess I misunderstood the purpose of this poll. I read it as "Why are you here (MERB)?" That's a different question entirely from "Clients: Why do you see sps?"
I saw an ad for a dominatrix on here so I think that means I should be mad.
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