Merkle paying refugees to leave Germany and Canadian sanctuary cities

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Looks like Merkle is paying refugees to leave Germany, wonder how many will be coming to Montreal as they want to make it a sanctuary city. On our side of the border, Vancouver and Toronto are already designated sanctuary cities, as are Hamilton and London, Ont. Ottawa is also considering the designation.

http://canadafreepress.com/article/...paying-refugees-to-leave-germany-voluntarily#
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-sanctuary-city-donald-trump-1.3985690


Looks like Canada will become the new Germany and open the flood gates for refugees. Personally I do not agree with someone sneaking into Canada and being able to stay, if you did not go through the proper channels there probably is a reason, criminal background or whatever. Have no concerns of immigrants, do have concerns about refugees when a high percentage are males that are able to fight for their country and see few women and children. If the government again rushes the process and does not do proper clearance checks that is not good also. Canada brought in about 300,000 immigrants last year, this is a record for us. I am an immigrant myself, not complaining about immigration, concern is rushing in refugees and having sanctuary cities for refugees that sneak into Canada.

 

[rollingstone]

I am born to immigrants to Canada but I somewhat agree with you. Canada has a simple immigration process and its much easier to obtain residency here than it is in the US, UK, Australia to name a few. So I am a bit suspicious of people who resort to illegal crossings.

Keep in mind though, an argument was made that people who don't wait in line are more industrious and hard working - so Germany essentially got the best of the refugees. Social programs rely on one generation financing the older ones, so if people are not having enough babies you need an injection of immigrants to start working and contributing to the system.

 

[hungry101]

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Keep in mind though, an argument was made that people who don't wait in line are more industrious and hard working - so Germany essentially got the best of the refugees. Social programs rely on one generation financing the older ones, so if people are not having enough babies you need an injection of immigrants to start working and contributing to the system.

People don't have enough babies because they have to pay for them!!!! Woman have to work and can't afford them men are less likely to get married because it is inevitable that they will be taken to the cleaners at some time in the next 5-7 years and have to pay child support.

Now bring in the immigrants and put them on welfare. Just like the inner city welfare people they will have lots of babies! Why? Because they don't have to pay for them. I will have to support them through exorbitant taxes. This is what I see over and over again, responsible people have few or no children, men no longer want to get married because they fear being taken to the cleaners which is inevitable and welfare people spit out children ebcasue the more kids they have the more welfare they get. Reagan changed this. Clinton supported workfare and was even tougher than Reagan and then along came the Obama the Socialist who changed things back to the the pre-Reagan days where you spit out as many kinds as you can and the government throws money at you.

It would be nice to see Canada take in all these refugees. Oh, they will overburden the system and you will invariably get a few murdering jihadists but hey, at least you can put that smug liberal look on your face and put your nose in the air and feel morally superior to others. Isn't this the most important aspect of all this to a liberal? To be able to judge others; to act righteous and morally superior to others? You will at least be able to do this. Take em in!

 

[rollingstone]

Ah yes the 'welfare' claim. When immigrants work hard and give back to the society (neither my parents nor any of my siblings were ever on welfare) we are accused to taking other people's jobs. If we can't get jobs due to lack of opportunity we are lazy and living off welfare.

 

[hungry101]

Ah yes the 'welfare' claim. When immigrants work hard and give back to the society (neither my parents nor any of my siblings were ever on welfare) we are accused to taking other people's jobs. If we can't get jobs due to lack of opportunity we are lazy and living off welfare.

The Tarnaev brothers who set off the pressure pots and murdered and maimed all those people apparently lived off public assistance. How about the Ohio State Somali jihadist or the Minnesota Mall Somali jihadist? I'm not sure if they were on welfare.

I can trace my relatives on both side. They came here and learned the language and went to work. Not a one of them ever said Allah Akbar and blew anything up. The point is are you coming here to work? Will you assimilate? If not, get the fuck out.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Hungry's post has merit, for the seasoned welfare cases every child under 6 gives you $6,400 a year and 6 to 18 gives you $5,600 a year. Many people pop out kids to get more cash, 6 kids gives you $38,400.00. This kind of encourages welfare families to have many kids. Same with native reserves, once you are in it is hard to get out so their 6 kids also have 6 kids........
EDIT: One solution would be, first kid $6,400, second $5,400, third $3,400, fourth $1,400 and after that you are on your own.

 

[JackNoJill]

I understand and agree with all your points (rollingstone, hungry, Sol).

My personal story is that I immigrated to the US at 10. My family had been through the system (medicaid, food stamps, etc...) not because they wanted to, but because they didn't speak English at the time. My dad worked at meat packing company, ethnic supermarket jobs and my mom worked at sweat shops / laundromats during the day and studied English at night. Eventually she got her CNA cert and worked at a nursing home until she was diagnosed with cancer (RIP).

I remember distinctly one time we went to a dentist in Chinatown and the dentist was pissed that we were using Medicaid where she paid for her dental education and was a value to society while we were just leeches. Needless to say, I skipped on going to dentists until I started working and became a "value" to society. I am thankful for the education and opportunities that I would otherwise not receive back "home" (at the time I heard that there were only 6 universities for a population of over 7 million - not all of them are college age of course) and am doing my best to pay back this debt (work/tax, volunteer in my town/schools, etc...).

Speaking of home, I would not even know what to do with myself if I ever get deported back now as I don't know a damn thing about "home" and none of my relatives live there anymore... not that I have any ties with them either. I am a naturalized citizen since I turned 18 and was close to serving the country but my mom threaten to disown me and I will always thank her for that because I would have been shipped out right after 9/11... who knows what would happened with that.

I have heard of the gaming of the welfare system which I do not agree with and have heard second hand (from my mom since she worked at a nursing home where she saw it happened with immigrates) where elderly parents arrive and have a silver spoon in their mouths. We have a lot of holes to fix and although we know that one size doesn't fit all, we need to draw a line somewhere. Now the trillion dollar question comes, where to draw the line?

 

[rollingstone]

Assimilation in Canada is very different from the US. If you don't like Canada's policies or culture you can stay on your side of the border instead of telling us what to do. I can pick out any number of white killers with any number of motivations and try to paint them as a representative sample. I occasionally go to a Mosque, I don't celebrate Christmas, but I do enjoy alcohol and women, and its not up to you or anyone else to judge how people have assimilated or live their lives. Quoting a few instances of crazy immigrants (thats on you, not chechnya or any other place) will never match all the serial killers, rapists, cult leaders, massacres and genocides the 'assimilated' have perpetrated.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Assimilation in Canada is very different from the US. If you don't like Canada's policies or culture you can stay on your side of the border instead of telling us what to do. I can pick out any number of white killers with any number of motivations and try to paint them as a representative sample. I occasionally go to a Mosque, I don't celebrate Christmas, but I do enjoy alcohol and women, and its not up to you or anyone else to judge how people have assimilated or live their lives. Quoting a few instances of crazy immigrants (thats on you, not chechnya or any other place) will never match all the serial killers, rapists, cult leaders, massacres and genocides the 'assimilated' have perpetrated.

Hard to figure out your first two sentences, guessing you are referring to Americans ( our only border country ) talking about Canadian policies????? Not sure what it has to do with this tread.
Do not think you understand our concerns also, yes we know that we have killers born in our country, our circus and we have to live with it. The issue ( to me ) is immigrants and or refugees that do not want to become Canadian and feed off our generosity and try and change our laws and customs to please them, not all are like that and only a small minority are but that is enough to have a concern. If you want to " escape " to Canada be Canadian, if you want a prayer room in schools for your kids build it yourself, do not use our system to get 5 welfare checks for your 5 wives ( http://cnews.canoe.com/CNEWS/Canada/2008/02/08/4834833-sun.html ), DO NOT demand to have your face covered during your Canadian citizenship ceremony, and the list goes on.

Many other articles agree with these stats. Globally 72% of Muslims said violence against civilians is never justified, and in the US, 81% of Muslims opposed such violence. About 14% of Muslims in the nations surveyed (and 8% of Muslims in the US) said violence against civilians is "often" or "sometimes" justified.
You take 900,000 Muslims in Canada and use the 8% you have 72,000 that agree with violence is needed.

There are Muslim communities in Germany and London that even the police will not enter, rape and child molestation goes up. Yes, we have our Clifford Olsens and Paul Bernados but we do not need to add others from other countries.