Metro Extension to Laval ?

[smuler]

On this trip, I am preliminarily going to stay at The Best Western @ 3655 Autoroute Des Laurentides. ( Anyone ever stay there ? )

I have a car, so that is not a problem. The cost of parking downtown, is forcing me to stay outside. I am sure escorts coming to laval would not be a problem. Also, proximity to Desses, Motel St Pierre, Bodyshop intrigues me..

So- on to the question...I heard that the end of this month, the Orange line will open up to Laval. I have checked the metro site, and cannot find any announcement.

This might be a good transport choice, as I am planning on coming into the city a couple times a day.

Any info would be appreciated

Best Regards

Smuler

 

[CaptRenault]

April 28

...So- on to the question...I heard that the end of this month, the Orange line will open up to Laval. I have checked the metro site, and cannot find any announcement...

The first trains will roll in April 28
CourrierLaval.com
April 14, 2007

It's official. The first subway trains will cross into Laval island's three stations on April 28, 2007.

The announcement was made at a mid-week press conference in Montmorency Station. To date, the results of thousands of tests, dry runs and security checks have led authorities to conclude that all flaws have been corrected, including an adjustment necessitated by a recent minor derailment resulting from a curve deemed too sharp.

For riders, there is something special to look forward to on April 28 and 29, as the Montreal Transit Corporation (STM) opens its doors, free of charge, for anyone who wants to check out the new installations and ride on the trains throughout the network.

Information stands will be set up in various locations for the occasion and teams of AMT (Metropolitan Transit Agency), STM, and STL (Laval Transit Corporation) representatives will provide visitors with a variety of transit information.

"For the purpose of sharing in this momentous occasion with all Laval residents, STL transit will also be free on April 28 and 29," stated STL Chairman Jean-Jacques Beldié.

According to president and Chief Executive Officer Joël Gauthier, the metro project will be completed at lower costs than those approved by Quebec. He relates that the final costs of the metro extension, fixed at $745M, represent a $58.6 million saving from the $803.6M approved by the government.

"The extension of the metro to Laval is one of the most important achievements in public and collective transit in the metropolitan region in the past several years," Mr. Gauthier maintains.

Peak performance

As of now the plan calls for every second train to travel into the Laval stations at morning and evening peak periods, with the others stopping at Henri Bourassa. On weekends and holidays all trains will travel to the Laval stations.

The Orange Line trains will thus increase to 32 from the present 28 at peak hours and from 12 to 14 at all other times.

The addition of the three Laval stations now puts the total number in the system at 68, linked by 70 kilometers of tunnels.

Joël Gauthier estimates that with the opening of the metro, 3000 cars will no longer clog the roads, the equivalent of a full lane of highway each morning and evening.

Ticket prices

As of April 30, a new fare scale will come into effect. The TRAM 3 monthly pass, at $103, will provide access to travel from all three Laval stations, Laval busses and the STM busses and metro. Seniors, and students age 18 to 21 can obtain the card for $82.50 TRAM 4 to 8 passes and validated TRAM tickets will also be accepted.

For occasional riders, the Montreal Transit Corporation (STM) will be offering single tickets featuring a Cartier, de la Concorde, or Montmorency designation at the regular (pale yellow ticket) fare of $2.75. The reduced (pale lilac ticket) fare is set at $1.75 for students under 18 and seniors aged 65 and over.

For more information, transit users are invited to consult the STM, AMT, and STL websites at www.stm.info, www.amt.qc.ca, and www.stl.laval.qc.ca

 

[smuler]

Thanks so much Captain.. By any chance, do you know if it is far from my hotel/ Carrefour Mall ?

Regards

Smuler

 

[ck_nj]

Smuler,
Here is a website with the updated maps, with the Laval stops:
http://www.videomashups.ca/montreal/subwaymap.php

 

[smuler]

Thanks CK- doesn't look too far from the hotel.

Best Regards
Smuler

PS- passed White Manna today..did you go yet ?

 

[smuler]

Anybody check out the new Metro stations in Laval last weekend ??

I know it was free weekend, and I was wondering if the stations opened up on schedule ??

Regards

Smuler

 

[Big Daddy Cool]

smuler:
Best take your car. Our public transportation sucks big moose cock. The metros take 10 mins between trains on weekends and they make sure not to be cordinated with our buses or other metro lines. All too often while trasfering at Lionel Greux I've seen the metro on the other line pulling out while the doors for my metro are just opening. Had the fucken idiot waited just 30-40 secs I wouldn't be wasting yet another 10-15mins waiting for a metro that should have waited 30-40 secs for passangers from the other lines to start with.

Another example of car VS metro is a trip from De L'eglise metro to Monpellier train station. By car it takes about 30mins while by metro it will take 1hr 10mins to 1hr 30mins depending on waiting time and if the metro is not stuck YET AGAIN FOR FUCKS SAKES.

Bottom line: Take the car.

 

[Rex Kramer]

The cost of parking downtown, is forcing me to stay outside. I am sure escorts coming to laval would not be a problem.

Some agencies charge an additional $10 for Laval. You may want to check with the agencies you are interested in.

Also, weekend parking rates are much cheaper, e.g. the parking garage under Complex Desjardins is $8 for Sat and Sun (no in and out privelege though.)

 

[metoo4]

BDC, you guys in Montreal have a great public transportation service! What's a 10 minutes wait? You should visit Ottawa! Here, 30 minutes to 1 hour is the norm, and that's peak hours at some places!

 

[gohabsgo]

they need a sexier womans voice for their messages

http://www.stm.info/English/info/sons/voix-stm.wav

 

[Big Daddy Cool]

metoo4:
You make a good point, but Ottawa has nothing compared to the population size of Montreal. To me it's only fair to compaire simular sized cities and to look at the better places, not the worse. In Canada Montreal and TO are compairable when you look at the following:

1- Time: Toronto wins with more and later hours by closing around 2am rather than 12:30am

2- Waiting time: Toronto wins because it has much more frequent trains and less waiting time between trains even late at night and on weekends.

3- Convient subway lines: Montreal wins with more lines and covering a greater part of it's city.

4- Opening hours: Montreal wins because TO's subways open only at 9am on Sundays and that's not always convientient.

5- Airport transportation: Toronto wins with an express bus leaving Kipling subway station every 10-15mins compared to Montreal which we have to take the 211 and then transfer to another bus (204) which only shows up every 30mins. Plus you have to sahre the buses with people going elsehwere while in TO the bus has only 2 stops (the subway and the airport).

6- Safty: Toronto has a safer subway system as there are less gangs and better security with better cameras and undercovers.

7- Look: Montreal wins hands down with better artistic designs for its stations where TO's tend to be plain although Downsview Station is my favorit station of all time in Canada.

8- Music: Montreal has more musicians and entertainment on the subwways.

What does this all mean? Nothing as compairing North American public transportation is like comparing AAA baseball teams to other AAA baseball teams. We need to look at our European counterparts who beats us in all the above catergories and more. Bottom line: TAKE THE CARE.

 

[oobe]

5- Airport transportation: Toronto wins with an express bus leaving Kipling subway station every 10-15mins

There's also a bus in Mtl, leaving from Berri bus station to the airport, with one stop on Gauchetiere. Now it still sucks since you get stuck in traffic all the same.

 

[Big Daddy Cool]

There's also a bus in Mtl, leaving from Berri bus station to the airport, with one stop on Gauchetiere. Now it still sucks since you get stuck in traffic all the same.

That's true, but with one major differance. The bus is not part of a STM route and cost something like $13 where the express bus in TO is a part of the regular TTC bus route at no extra cost except for $2 because you are in Mississaga, just like the metro in Laval. When compared, TO is a head on that end.

 

[eastender]

Comparisons.....

6- Safty: Toronto has a safer subway system as there are less gangs and better security with better cameras and undercovers.

Recent murder in a subway car less than three weeks ago presents a different picture.

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_10001.aspx

The Toronto system is better integrated with the regional GO system than Montreal's where there is little synergy with the suburbain trains.

The airport in Toronto is within the municipal transportation jurisdiction.

The two Montreal airports were outside the Montreal STCUM and predecessor jurisdiction when the service started.Mirabel is closed but the contract for Dorval is still in effect.

 

[Big Daddy Cool]

eastender:
I never said it was 100% safe, just safer. I've traveled both subway systems and found much fewer gang activities on the TO system. But if we look up past murders we will find incedents on both systems and that's normal. As for your juridiction argument, Dorval is more in the STCUM jurisdiction as it's still on the island compared to TO where the airport is actually in Mississauga and outside of TTC teritory.

DD:
To answer your question. I rememberd reading in the Gazzette about a year ago that showed stats that the metro system breaks down much too often including over 500 incedents of stalls that lasted 5-10mins or more. Plus do a time comparision. For example I can drive to the West Island Fairview Mall from Verdun in about 30-40 mins. By metro and bus we are looking at over an hr and 10mins. In most cases the time it takes to get to one place by car we can x that by at least 50% to calculate the time it takes to get to the same location. Plus too many times the bus that was suppose to be there never showed up despite me being there 10mins before it was suppose to show up and waiting 15mins after the scedualed time. If that's not bad enough almost every time I need the metro to be offecent because I'm running late (something I don't do often) that the time there's all kinds of stopages and stupidity from our system.

TAKE THE CAR

 

[Big Daddy Cool]

Here's another example of what a shity Public Transportation system we have here. The maintenance workers are talking about another strike. that would be something like the 3rd one in 10yrs conting strikes, disruptions and etc. What is needed is a nother class action suite against the STM for failur to provide the full service since we pay full price for our monthly passes.

Bottom line: Use a car and avoid this shit.

 

[z/m(Ret)]

Here's another example of what a shity Public Transportation system we have here. The maintenance workers are talking about another strike. that would be something like the 3rd one in 10yrs conting strikes, disruptions and etc.

Ever used public transportation in Europe, specifically in Italy? Work stoppage happens practically every other month and can occur, unannounced, any time of day or night.

 

[Big Daddy Cool]

Ever used public transportation in Europe, specifically in Italy? Work stoppage happens practically every other month and can occur, unannounced, any time of day or night.

I don't know about Italy that much, but I know that we have nothing on Denmark.

By the way there are two solutions to a stopage problem.
1- Our government telling them to go back to work or their jobs will be privatized to private contractors. The Harris government did it with the TTC workers and the union ran back to work with its tail tuck between its legs.
2- A class action suit against the STM and the maintenance workers for breach of contract. The monthly pass covers the whole month, not part of it. Plus make them pay for all the extra cost of traveling you incured because public transportation wa not available thanks to our typical over paid millitant unions of Quebec.