Correct....on your tricycle
BTW every agency that advertises on Merb sends girls to Laval, WI and South Shore sometimes with no extra charge, sometimes an extra 10 or 20....They must know something that you and your cowboy friend don`t
Mike 4U a t'il perdu le contrôle ? Après Brooke c'est Mykaela qui s'affiche ailleurs
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Correct....on your tricycle
BTW every agency that advertises on Merb sends girls to Laval, WI and South Shore sometimes with no extra charge, sometimes an extra 10 or 20....They must know something that you and your cowboy friend don`t
Or they don't. Tell me, how much money does a girl make sitting in a car? According to Google, it takes 45 minutes to get from the Hyatt to the Cartier Metro in Laval, at the moment, 6:15 on a Tuesday. How much money is left on the table if three girls are in a car, one to work, two to twiddle her thumbs? Is the driver going to head back to Rosemont or NDG to drop another off while the first one works or is all this time just wasted?
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10 minutes according to Google maps.
Not bloody likely, but even if this were true, there's not much business out there. Dorval is three times the size of the Plateau, but has one sixth the population. Pointe-Claire is 40% bigger than Rosemont, but has less than one quarter the population.
Between Rosemont and the Plateau, there are 230,000 residents; between Dorval and Pointe-Claire there are 47,000. Ville Marie has 75,000 people, not including those staying in hotels.
Well, if I understand, James should open a branch of GG in the WI instead of TO!
Je dois rencontrer juste des mythos ou des fénéantes car beaucoup me disent faire 3-4 clients par shift pis c'est ben en masse comme ça! Le driver a le temps de se faire chier sur la 20, la 40 pis Decarie pis arrivé pareil a plus ou moins 15-20 minutes près pour s'occuper de plus qu'une fille à la fois.
It not a pizza delivery, they have to deal with distance 365 days. Durant les soirées de merde le booker est mieux de prendre le call pis d'aller avec 4 filles à Roxboro que t'attendre 4 calls sur le bord d'un Tim Horton downtown. Le même client va te faire ch*er le soir ou toutes les filles sont booker mais c'est p-e lui qui t'as permis de garder une fille qui aurait été voir ailleurs si elle aurait passé la soirée dans char en février...
I deal 4 times with GG..Great job each time.
Je dois rencontrer juste des mythos ou des fénéantes car beaucoup me disent faire 3-4 clients par shift pis c'est ben en masse comme ça! Le driver a le temps de se faire chier sur la 20, la 40 pis Decarie pis arrivé pareil a plus ou moins 15-20 minutes près pour s'occuper de plus qu'une fille à la fois.
It not a pizza delivery, they have to deal with distance 365 days. Durant les soirées de merde le booker est mieux de prendre le call pis d'aller avec 4 filles à Roxboro que t'attendre 4 calls sur le bord d'un Tim Horton downtown. Le même client va te faire ch*er le soir ou toutes les filles sont booker mais c'est p-e lui qui t'as permis de garder une fille qui aurait été voir ailleurs si elle aurait passé la soirée dans char en février...
I deal 4 times with GG..Great job each time.
Another way is to become unclebob certified ( I never doubt him ). Just give good service + attitude at a reasonable price and word will spread fast.
Big Jean,
I managed a top notch pizza delivery operation for 3 years between college and law school. We would gross between $10,000-$15,000 on Friday and Saturday nights, and this was a long time ago. We serviced a large city in Connecticut and contiguous areas of surrounding suburbs but we had a defined geographical range to which we delivered. Basically all points within a 10 minute drive excepting housing projects to which we did not deliver. But if it was more than 10 minutes to get there, the business was refused. I could not tie up my drivers running out orders way up to the boondocks unless it was worth it. If we got a large order for 10 pies just outside the range, it was at my discretion if I wanted to honor it. Usually we did if we could verify it, and it was not too busy. Otherwise we told them they could pick it up. Occasionally, I would have to go on the road myself if things started backing up and the stack of pies to be delivered got too high. Our chief phone girl (who took the orders) became my girlfriend for 2 years until she moved out of state. This was the only time I have ever banged a co-worker in my life, and it is NOT a good idea, but I was a horned up 24 year old at the time.
Bottom line is that in any busy delivery operation, one has to consider driver time and the time duration the driver will be tied up. Same in the pizza business as in the escort business.
French Translation:
J'ai réussi une opération de livraison de pizza de premier ordre pour 3 ans entre le collège et l'école de droit. Nous aimerions brut entre $ 10,000 - $ 15,000 le vendredi et le samedi soir, et c'était il ya longtemps. Nous avons entretenu une grande ville dans le Connecticut et les zones contiguës de banlieues environnantes, mais nous avions une zone géographique définie à qui nous avons livré. Fondamentalement, tous les points situés à 10 minutes en voiture à l'exception des projets de logement à laquelle nous n'avons pas livrer. Mais si c'était plus de 10 minutes pour y arriver, l'entreprise a été refusée. Je ne pouvais pas attacher mes pilotes exécutant des ordres chemin jusqu'à le bled moins ça valait le coup. Si nous avons eu une grande commande de 10 tartes juste en dehors de la gamme, il est à ma discrétion si je voulais l'honorer. Habituellement nous avons fait si nous pouvions le vérifier, et ce n'était pas trop occupé. Sinon, nous leur avons dit qu'ils pouvaient ramasser. Parfois, je dois aller sur la route moi-même si les choses ont commencé la sauvegarde et la pile de tartes à livrer sont devenus trop élevés. Notre chef de fille de téléphone (qui a pris les commandes) est devenue ma petite amie pendant 2 ans jusqu'à son déménagement hors de l'état. Ce fut la seule fois que j'ai frappé un collègue dans ma vie, et ce n'est pas une bonne idée, mais j'ai été un des cornes de 24 ans à l'époque.
En bout de ligne, c'est que dans toute opération de livraison occupé, il faut considérer le temps du pilote et la durée du pilote sera ligoté. Même dans le secteur de la pizza comme dans les affaires d'escorte.
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I agree. I'd also like to add that many girls going indy outprice themselves out of the Mtl market. I may be the only one that has noticed this trend, but many of the girls decide to go indy after they've visited either the States or other Canadian cities where prices are considerably higher than in Mtl.
That's why, as Wimbledon has noted, that many good sps nearly 'terminate' their careers when they turn indy. For the reasons EB mentionned, and the ones i just did.
Let's face it: Montreal isn't a good market for independent escorts, although there likely are exceptions to the rule. There are so many very good agencies in the Montreal area that there is no need to venture towards the 'indy' market when hobbyists like us require company. Why would i want to see an indy escort whose rates are double (and sometimes more) than many very good agency escorts?? To be totally honest, many if not the majority of those 'agency' escorts are even better than the high-priced independents who've priced themselves out of the local market!
EB, if i ever decide to get into the business once i retire from my profession & move to Montreal, we should hook up. I feel the same way you do when it comes to good business practices. Never bang the co-workers or the workers. Treat them with the respect they deserve. Both you and I would be very good agency owners & drivers. Our common sense would prevail over our temptations. And, most importantly, WE WOULD NEVER SEND GIRLS TO WEST ISLAND OR ANY OTHER RESIDENCE LOCATED MORE THAN 10 MINUTES FROM DOWNTOWN MONTREAL UNLESS THE CLIENT AGREED TO A $100 EXTRA FEE. If they'd bitch about it, we could simply tell them to look in the Yellow Pages or call a Journal de Montreal agency instead!
To all current agency owners reading this: STOP BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. STOP SENDING GIRLS TO THE BURBS UNLESS YOU'RE WELL COMPENSATED FOR YOUR TROUBLES. I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO DEMAND THAT THE CLIENTS LOCATED IN THE BURBS ADD $100 TO THE RATE. YOU FOLKS ARE CURRENTLY LOSING WAY TOO MUCH MONEY TO CATER TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO LAZY TO GET IN THEIR CARS AND GET A ROOM AT THE CHABLIS OR ANYWHERE DOWNTOWN.
TELL THEM "IF YOU WANNA PLAY, YOU HAVE TO PAY."
p.s. A well-known indy at the time once told me that the cheapest clients she ever had all lived on west island. She hated going there for calls for that reason.
Hello all,
"Nous avons entretenu une grande ville dans le Connecticut"...
Also, that they "met a big city in Connecticut". There are lots of traps in google translate if one isn't careful and doesn't check to see how it worked out.
So many of the comments here have that self-serving feeling. Limit the areas the ladies travel to and the prices will go down. It seems logical that IF the agencies have been sending their ladies to places beyond the downtown area much for years and years that, a) there isn't enough business or profit to keep the ladies downtown all the time; b) it must be profitable to send them outside of the main tourist areas. Do you really think that if the agencies have found it necessary to send their ladies out of downtown they will be inclined to stop.
Is the percentage of those ladies taking appointments outside of downtown large enough that cutting out those areas would really change any agencies basic costs enough to drop prices at all. With the prices already lower than other places in Canada, as everyone keeps saying, why would the agencies lower rates by any marked measure whatever the case is? I know the only time I was stuck staying outside the main area of the city I couldn't get an agency lady to go there because of the inconvenient distance, and one Independent cancelled because I had to switch the appointment from downtown to Laval when the hotel reservation fell through.
Members might be wishfully imagining a situation that doesn't exist or is not common enough to make any real difference in rates...IF...the agencies were taking you seriously.
If the agencies did all the things we think they should have done over the years the only benefit to them would be ...OUR LOVE. :lol:
Cheers,
Merlot
LOL it translated that you beat up a co-worker...and you have horns
"Nous avons entretenu une grande ville dans le Connecticut"...
Also, that they "met a big city in Connecticut". There are lots of traps in google translate if one isn't careful and doesn't check to see how it worked out.
So many of the comments here have that self-serving feeling. Limit the areas the ladies travel to and the prices will go down. It seems logical that IF the agencies have been sending their ladies to places beyond the downtown area much for years and years that, a) there isn't enough business or profit to keep the ladies downtown all the time; b) it must be profitable to send them outside of the main tourist areas. Do you really think that if the agencies have found it necessary to send their ladies out of downtown they will be inclined to stop.
Is the percentage of those ladies taking appointments outside of downtown large enough that cutting out those areas would really change any agencies basic costs enough to drop prices at all. With the prices already lower than other places in Canada, as everyone keeps saying, why would the agencies lower rates by any marked measure whatever the case is? I know the only time I was stuck staying outside the main area of the city I couldn't get an agency lady to go there because of the inconvenient distance, and one Independent cancelled because I had to switch the appointment from downtown to Laval when the hotel reservation fell through.
Members might be wishfully imagining a situation that doesn't exist or is not common enough to make any real difference in rates...IF...the agencies were taking you seriously.
If the agencies did all the things we think they should have done over the years the only benefit to them would be ...OUR LOVE. :lol:
Cheers,
Merlot
This thread has gone to many places, places I am unfamiliar with. ;-) However, I can speak to the topic of the recent divergence... The additional cost in time and driver fees for going outside the downtown area.
Like many independents I do ask for an additional fee for going to Laval, the South Shore and the West Island. Some people do not wish to pay for it and I respect that. We were just not meant to be. There are lots of other options for them in the Montreal area and they are free to find the lady that suits their schedule, location and budget. But the expense is there for us ladies and it either has to be absorbed by the lady, the client or a bit of both (which is what I have chosen to do). But some people are just unreasonable. I had some say they were staying in Montreal but they were in St Hyacinthe.
I am happy living in downtown Montreal but if I were to move outside of the city I would be interested in exploring a local suburban market. I think some ladies already operate this way and it has further potential. I have seen this to be the case in Ottawa which has indies located downtown, in the East and West ends, as well the suburbs.
Like many independents I do ask for an additional fee for going to Laval, the South Shore and the West Island. Some people do not wish to pay for it and I respect that. We were just not meant to be. There are lots of other options for them in the Montreal area and they are free to find the lady that suits their schedule, location and budget. But the expense is there for us ladies and it either has to be absorbed by the lady, the client or a bit of both (which is what I have chosen to do). But some people are just unreasonable. I had some say they were staying in Montreal but they were in St Hyacinthe.
I am happy living in downtown Montreal but if I were to move outside of the city I would be interested in exploring a local suburban market. I think some ladies already operate this way and it has further potential. I have seen this to be the case in Ottawa which has indies located downtown, in the East and West ends, as well the suburbs.
To the guys saying it doesn't make business sense to send girls outside of downtown core you're ASSUMING girls are fully booked!
In an ideal situation for an agency owner 100% of his clients are located downtown and his girls are fully booked.
Now wake up and realize this is NOT the case. What if 40 to 50% (if not more) of his clients are outside the downtown core? So tomorrow he cuts his business in half and has girls sitting in the backseat of a car waiting for people from downtown to call and book them. Yeah... That makes real business sense... Lol
Sure ... One can argue that on special occasions like F1 they may decide to keep most girls downtown because they are super busy that weekend but what about the quiet periods...? Should the girls go on seasonal UI?
Lol some people make me laugh. I can just picture the spiderwebs growing if all escort agencies stuck to downtown core and waited for calls from only downtown.
And as far as places like rosemont having more population (mentioned on previous page)... Also WAY less disposable income...
Personally , I don't care as I prefer incall or MP like 2214 and YPG but I'm pretty sure agency owners send girls to east end, Laval, Wi and south shore because it makes business sense.
In an ideal situation for an agency owner 100% of his clients are located downtown and his girls are fully booked.
Now wake up and realize this is NOT the case. What if 40 to 50% (if not more) of his clients are outside the downtown core? So tomorrow he cuts his business in half and has girls sitting in the backseat of a car waiting for people from downtown to call and book them. Yeah... That makes real business sense... Lol
Sure ... One can argue that on special occasions like F1 they may decide to keep most girls downtown because they are super busy that weekend but what about the quiet periods...? Should the girls go on seasonal UI?
Lol some people make me laugh. I can just picture the spiderwebs growing if all escort agencies stuck to downtown core and waited for calls from only downtown.
And as far as places like rosemont having more population (mentioned on previous page)... Also WAY less disposable income...
Personally , I don't care as I prefer incall or MP like 2214 and YPG but I'm pretty sure agency owners send girls to east end, Laval, Wi and south shore because it makes business sense.
How could 40-50% of his clients live in an area with less than 10% of the population and no tourists?
On what do you base this? Have you seen the difference in property values between the West Island and the Plateau, Rosemont, NDG, Outremont, Westmount? Another consideration, the small population in the suburbs is much more likely to be families with children and much less likely to be single men. Which raises another question. Why, on god's green Earth, would a single man choose to live in the suburbs? The only answer I can think of is that he can't afford to live in Plateau, Rosemont, NDG, Outremont, Westmount where the property values are much, much higher. (Note that I say "single man." That's for the simple reason that a married man living in the West Island is most likely conducting his affairs from the Chablis or the like, that is to say, in the population center.)
OMG..this was the debate of the century, lol
Whoever has a beef against Mike: you are losing your time. He has HOT gals and this is what hobbyists care about.
Talk the talk, he is walking the walk:lol: As we say in French .......la caravane passe, les chiens aboient
Whoever has a beef against Mike: you are losing your time. He has HOT gals and this is what hobbyists care about.
Talk the talk, he is walking the walk:lol: As we say in French .......la caravane passe, les chiens aboient
Ah ben non lol je l`ai dit avant toi; La caravane passe, les chiens aboient ! LOL :lol:
And yup agree 110% this thread is only about a very small number of guys blacklisted by Mike venting out !
Pathetic big time
And yup agree 110% this thread is only about a very small number of guys blacklisted by Mike venting out !
Pathetic big time
Other English translation: Speaking just for myself, when I don't know what I'm talking about, I try to keep my mouth shut.
Mike voici les faits . Mykaela avait quitté ton agence avant le Grand Prix. La preuve est qu' elle travail toujours dans le condo
d'ECM et c'est toi qui a du retiré les photos. Mike serais tu un petit brin faussaire ?
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