New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting prostitution

[sharkman]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...obert-kraft-charged-solicitation-prostitution

It will be interesting to see the ramifications (team operations, fines, draft choices, etc) from the NFL on the owner and the Patriots as a result of these charges - if he is indeed found guilty upon further review!.....lol!

 

[Lord Canarvon]

This is the price for fame in 2019. Things are different post the Harvey Weinstein incident(s). Even his high brow friends that exactly as he does will turn away from him. He will retire, with his money but not his pride.

 

[sambuca]

What's the big deal? This isn't the first time he's paid someone to deflate his balls.

 

[Lord Canarvon]

This time he got caught.

 

[No_Church_InThe_Wild]

Just wished that Belichick was on that soliciting list aswell. Also really surprised that Kraft can still get it up .
Unfortunately for him after this there won’t be a happy ending.
Thank you Sharkman,,, this thread made me laugh

 

[bamjay]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...obert-kraft-charged-solicitation-prostitution

There are some details that this article doesn't mention. The spa he was busted at was part of an international human trafficking ring and was one of a total of 10 shut down after a long investigation: https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/c...-human-trafficking-cases-released/2929679002/

The surveillance videos were part of the evidence seized by local police and the FBI. My guess would be that there are a ton more people implicated in those surveillance videos, who might or might not be identified and charged, but in Kraft's case it's like someone already said:

This is the price for fame in 2019.

 

[sharkman]

Best comeback I have ever heard Sambuca!...you should tour as a stand-up comic! I would certainly pay for that!...lol!

 

[Bred Sob]

This is a problem with incall. You just don’t know how many cameras there are, and where they are at.

If there are cameras inside massage rooms, they are certainly good for blackmail, but can they be used in court? Sounds like seriously illegal business.

 

[hungry101]

No shit Sambuca? I thought this had to be another post by Sol-tee. Hilarious!!!

 

[sambuca]

I was just joking around, but yes my brain is wired strangely as has been pointed out to me many times. :bounce:

 

[sharkman]

...I think the massage therapist room at Gillette stadium is undergoing major renovations!

 

[Doggyluver]

I understand that a lot of you are anti Patriots but to take pleasure in someone getting caught doing the same thing you all do regularly, pathetic and hypocritical . First let\s understand that he is a widower and has no ties to a woman in a relationship. The only thing I don't get is with all the money this man has, hire the best, pay them well and bring them to you.

Personally, I feel bad for him, his reputation will be forever tarnished by this incident

 

[sambuca]

Joking aside, I think most of us here empathize with him and don't want this BS to befall anyone. Doggyluver I had looked up his marriage situation and saw he was a widower.

Yes, it's truly bizarre he would go to a spa. Perhaps he thought he could remain anonymous. I would have thought he would call a $2,000/night hooker and arrange a meeting at a nice hotel. He could also fly to Canada or London on the Patriots jet plane anytime he wanted.

 

[sharkman]

...apparently they will be renaming the massage therapist room at Gillette Stadium: "the Orchids of Asia Day Spa"

 

[sambuca]

I heard the massage therapists at the the Orchids of Asia Day Spa know their Kraft. Now how do they get those sticky Drops of Jupiter out of their hair?

 

[CaptRenault]

. There are some details that this article doesn't mention. The spa he was busted at was part of an international human trafficking ring and was one of a total of 10 shut down after a long investigation: https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/c...-human-trafficking-cases-released/2929679002/...

Bullshit.

That's the way that gullible reporters, the police, religious zealots and feminists always spin these kind of routine busts. Don't believe it.

Patriots Owner Robert Kraft's Arrest Is Being Billed as a Human Trafficking Bust, but it Looks More Like Ordinary Prostitution

It's also part of a larger national attack on massage parlors and sex workers.
reason.com

Elizabeth Nolan Brown|Feb. 22, 2019 5:05 pm

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Robert Kraft, the owner of the New England Patriots, was arrestedtoday in Florida as part of a massage-parlor prostitution enforcement effort there. The 77-year-old NFL team owner is one of more than 150 men accused of soliciting prostitution. Police say they've been investigating the spa he visited, Orchids of Asia Day Spa, since October 2018.

Authorities are calling this a "human trafficking operation," with some media outlets invoking "modern-day slavery." But so far all signs suggest this is just an ordinary anti-prostitution effort.

Kraft was charged with two counts of soliciting for prostitution, a misdemeanor. Orchids of Asia's owner, Hua Zhang, was charged with deriving support from the proceeds of prostitution, keeping and frequenting a house of prostitution, and procuring for prostitution. All of these are charges that can apply to prostitution-business bosses even when everyone involved consents.

Martin County Sheriff William Snyder said at a press conference that some of the workers at these spas lived in them and weren't allowed to leave during the day. This is something we frequently hear from police chiefs and county sheriffs at the start of big "sex trafficking busts" that turn out to yield nothing but ordinary prostitution charges. (See, for instance, King County, Washington, cops on Korean sex workers there.)

Police across the country have been ramping up stings at massage parlors, driven by a concentrated effort coming from federal law enforcement (including Homeland Security) and a whole lot of misinformation. In most cases, these investigations don't lead to trafficking charges but do result in arrests for prostitution or people giving massages without a license. In at least one recent high-profile instance, they led to a Chinese sex worker's death.

It's not just undocumented immigrants who face deportation after an arrest in these stings. Prostitution charges can mean deportation even for immigrants here legally.

Florida police shut down Orchids of Asia along with nine other Asian spas and massage parlors around Orlando. The operation includes accusations of prostitution solicitation by 165 men, more than 50 of whom have already been arrested. These men have not been accused of being involved in human trafficking.

Despite some reports referring to the spa workers as "girls," police have not indicated that any employees were actually underage.

Massage parlor workers were also arrested as part of the operation to "help" them, but cops want you to know they wish they had found horrific abuse instead of just sex workers. "Even though we may have charges on some of them, we'd rather them be victims," said Vero Beach Police Chief David Currey.

Details on this story are still coming out, and police say charges are still forthcoming, which means it's possible that we'll find more here than currently meets the eye. But at the moment, it looks an awful lot like so many prostitution enforcement operations billed as "saving girls" from trafficking.

Elizabeth Nolan Brown is an associate editor at Reason.

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[Like_It_Hot]

Shame that hes taken down by something that should be legal anyways.

If human traficking is implied, this should never be legal.

 

[Like_It_Hot]

Bullshit.

That's the way that gullible reporters, the police, religious zealots and feminists always spin these kind of routine busts. Don't believe it.

And they are probably socialist too you forgot to mention... OMG!

 

[bamjay]

Bullshit.

That's the way that gullible reporters, the police, religious zealots and feminists always spin these kind of routine busts. Don't believe it.

That's an interesting article. Maybe it is a case of blowing things out of proportion, I was not aware. However, I do understand how most of this works. I mean, it's not like I'm some kind of saint or something, I'm on the client list of certain places... and a lot of times it's a win-win-win situation for everyone involved, the customers, organizers, and the girls. Sometimes it's not.

If human traficking is implied, this should never be legal.

I think the tough part is really knowing without investigating certain cases. You just never know. And once that happens in the US, they will bust the place(s), no matter what the result of those investigations are, as long as there is any type of prostitution involved, voluntary or not. Personally I believe legitimate business operations in this trade should simply be legal, just like certain drugs, with the latter having happened here in Canada. But actual cases of human trafficking do exist, and human beings being exploited against their will isn't something that should be ignored.

 

[sharkman]

I heard the massage therapists at the the Orchids of Asia Day Spa know their Kraft. Now how do they get those sticky Drops of Jupiter out of their hair?

...maybe Tom Brady or Julian Edelman know how to remove those sticky drops!!!...lol!