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hungry101

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Former President Obama has written his third book on his favorite subject: Himself.

I understand that this book is a trilogy. I expect that former President Obama will most likely waste millions of dollars to build a presidential library in his name. I hope that he can build one large enough so that he can fit all the books that he plans to write about himself.

How do you feel about presidents building presidential libraries and publishing memoirs? Who reads them? Enclosed is an article entitled Books by Politicians and the People Who Read Them.
The author of the article, Jim Nagle, points out that every politician seems to be writing a book. He asks the question who has the time or inclination to read all these books? He wrote the article after seeing Bernie Sanders on Colbert. He is a self proclaimed fan of Sanders and is willing to read articles about Sander's policies etc. but there is no way he would commit to reading an entire book by the guy. For one thing, the information gets stale very quick and they are not professional writers. In contrast, Winston Spencer Churchill was at one time in his life, the highest grossing Journalist in the world. I've read three four of his books and I can tell you they are very good to this day. But still, I don't think that WSC wrote as many words about himself as Obama. I won't read this dribble.

 

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In general, I liked Obama, but this book is disappointing.

It will make foreign leaders less likely to be frank with US Presidents if they think the President will make money writing tell-all books.

What‘s next Barrack? A book titled All the Girls I Fucked Before Michelle, and The Three After, with a subplot below in smaller print, My Thoughts on Whether Or Not Trudeau Did Do That 17-Year Old Student of His.

Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter never did this shit. Ford was not exceptionally wealthy during life or at death. He had a nice place in Palm Springs and loved golf, but he had no interest in multiple homes and a Hawaii mansion like Obama does. Jimmy isn’t wealthy to this day. He has potluck dinners with family and friends. His very small vacation lake shack has a Murphy Bed that is probably difficult for he and his wife, both in their 90s, to get back into the wall. I wonder if he thinks while putting it back up if he should have written tell-all books.
 
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You make a very good point. Just like when Obama was talking to his friend Putin and didn’t realize he was hot-miked. What Obama was talking about - colluding with Russia - was off the record. shouldn’t some things stay off the record?

Obama is also the first President in recent memory to criticize a sitting President. I remember the press trying to get Bush 41 to comment while he was fishing for bone fish. He said something like I’m out of the public eye and I’m not going to criticize a sitting President. In contrast, Obama won’t shut up but why should he? He’s wonderful. Just ask him.

I have Bush 43’s Decision Points on my shelf. Incidentally, in the article that I posted above, this book was called out as a better book because it’s focus was a handful of critical decision points during 43rd’s Presidency. This way, you can skip the obligatory chapters about early life and Jr High school etc. The book was a gift and I haven’t touched it and do not plan to anytime soon.
 

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One book I would stand in line to buy at a book signing would be Between the Sheets, One man’s quest for intimacy after decades of marriage to a man-hating Bitch. This would be a tell-all book about Bill Clinton trying to cope and find some fulfillment after years of his marriage of convenience to the most hated woman in Government since Marie Antoinette.
 

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I think some of you gentlemen are being unfair to Obama. He is unquestionably the worst president of the last half a century or so, but there are so many redeeming qualities that we need to give him credit for. As far as I can tell, he is the closest to a real Renaissance man we have ever seen, definitely since Leonardo. To wit: in addition to being a great writer, he is equally at home in:

- linguistics (singlehandedly invented the Austrian language)

- geography (Malvinas, Maldives, who the fuck cares)

- world affairs ("president of Canada")

And that is just to scratch the surface... And who could forget his revolutionary use of the teleprompter? Give him a break...

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Well, there are politicians -- and politicians. Whatever, say, Churchill wrote (a lot!) is worth reading, in my view. I can not however picture a reader of Obama's trash.
I am not saying I haven't read portions of their life and their actions in history, but to read a politicians self published memoirs from cover to cover never.
 

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to read a politicians self published memoirs from cover to cover never.
If I can a venture a guess... You did not grow up in a communist country, did you? ("Self-published", btw, is a very precise epithet, as opposed to "self-written.)"
 

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As far as I can tell, he is the closest to a real Renaissance man we have ever seen, definitely since Leonardo.
I would rather compare him to Galileo. Obama was an unrecognized genius and if he failed as president, it was only because he was so far ahead of his time. It is such a shame that his breathtaking idea of building the Intercontinental railroad was met with universal derision and contempt. If not for these despicable jeering racists, we would now be taking comfortable trains from New York to Paris or San Francisco to Tokyo (the visionary inexplicably failed to specify which would come first.)
 

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On a serious note, there is a real intellectual reason that many of us don’t like reading political memoirs.

As I have said before, I thought Obama did a pretty good job of running the first thing he ever ran -The United States of America. I admire and respect him. If my forum friends disagree, that is fine with me. I think the economy of the Midwest would have fallen apart had it not been for the auto bailouts and the Middle East might have become Armageddon had the U.S. more directly battled ISIS instead of the host countries being the ones to do so. Those were difficult decisions and I often questioned them.

But when memoirs take on the I Was Sent By God tone, which most do, I just start laughing.

Barrack’s ascendency to the U.S. Senate (from the state senate), was necessary before the Presidency.

And that only occurred because Jeri Ryan, the blond actress of many roles, most notably Boston Public, was not willing to try getting tied up and spanked.

If she had, there is simply no Barrack Obama as President in 2008.

JerI really isn’t into pain, not even liking to tape her nipples to the swimsuit when pregnant.


”There are three things pageant women do. There's the Vaseline thing, which I didn't do. There's duct taping your boobs, which I never did because I'm not into pain.”

Barrack’s senate race against Jack Ryan was not considered to be competitive at first. Now of course Barrack is a great speaker and a likeable person, but Jack was way ahead in the early polls and was a very impressive guy in the pro-business environment of that time.

But when the Jack Ryan and Jeri Ryan divorce files got released, there was a bombshell section that was arguably to have been part of the Confidential and Redacted section, but it got (arguably) misfiled.


There was a part in it that was a doozy:

”On June 22, 2004, after receiving a report from the referee, Judge Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had wanted her to perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York City, New Orleans, and Paris, but no sex occurred. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."[15] The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request, and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child, who had special needs. On the same day, Jim Oberweis, Ryan's defeated opponent in the GOP primary, commented that if the allegations were true, "it would end the candidacy."[15]

Ryan's campaign indeed ended less than a week after the custody records were opened, and Ryan officially filed the documentation to withdraw on July 29, 2004.”

One Illinois politician was really funny when asked about it. There was an old business expression of “Will it sell in Peoria“. Peoria is a small city in Illinois indicative of similar cities throughout the country. The politician said that Jack Ryan‘s actions wouldn’t sell well in Peoria.

There has been just one article I have found that references this sequence of events.


Now there may have someday been a Barrack at the national stage , he had given a very impressive Keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention and was being heavily promoted by Oprah. But I still don’t think Obama would have won the 2004 Illinois Senate race, given the environment at that time, had Jeri Ryan given BDSM a better try. Even if she didn’t like it, she wouldn’t have been as willing to talk about it so much in the divorce filings.

That is why I hate autobiographies and memoirs. As was illustrated in HBO’s Rome, the lives of even those at the top are often determined by people they don’t even know. Barrack certainly wasn’t in the room when Jeri decided she didn’t want much to do with BDSM as part of sex. She may not have even known him by name - he was just a state senator. But she had more to do with helping him than anyone else I can think of, and I doubt that Obama even references her in his books.
 

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I personally do not read any political memoirs by any leaders, but my mother, who passed away earlier this year, was a voracious reader of them. She read all of them, both sides of the political aisle, and would have her name on the local library waiting list as soon as they hit the market. She also voraciously watched the Sunday morning political talk shows, and could not be talked to while they were on, lest you spark her anger. She had a life long fascination with these books and TV shows that I never fully understood. She was not born in the USA but became obsessed with its politics. I believe she also read memoirs written by certain foreign leaders.

I think there is a market for these books and it's probably people like my mother. If she was alive she would almost certainly have ordered the Obama book.
 

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On a serious note...
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As I have said before, I thought Obama did a pretty good job of running the first thing he ever ran -The United States of America.
Just to be sure, could you please point to the spot where the serious part of your note starts.
 

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Just to make it sure, could you please point to the spot where the serious part of your note starts.
I meant a serious, or non-political, reason not to read them. Especially when they glorify the politician.

One politician usually isn’t that much different than another, and wouldn’t have always come to different conclusions or proposed different policies.

So I am not sure they are worth the effort to read.
 
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