People who don't post reviews

[GiveAndTake]

Gianna mmmmm!!!
Wow the smile that occurs when I hear that name. What an all around superstar!!
The picture perfect hot gem!!

 

[Mod 8]

Hello everyone,

I would like to make a humorous reply to the quoted posts below but I find that my sense of humor is lacking at the moment. I am actually very pissed off at the moment. How many times do we have to reply to these stupid conspiracy theories, complaints about the NRP and explain that links to non-advertisers are not permitted in 411 posts? It seems that they come up every few months and we got through it all over again.

Well here are a couple of replies for the quoted posts and then I will make a final statement on this matter.

To GiveAndTake,

Moderators apply the same rules equally to all advertisers.We do not have different rules for different advertisers. Moderators do not have any contact with any advertiser beyond our moderator duties. We do not receive kickbacks, we do not receive discounts, no advertiser or other member has any knowledge of who the moderators are. If anyone has anything different to say I invite them to post it here on MERB and be able to back it up with proof. You make an accusation that "The mods have the answers but are not sharing on the public board" Really? Do you have proof of this? Continue posting shit like this with no proof to back up your accusations and I will ban your ass permanently.

To Jack_Bauer,

If Agencies are controlling this board, I would also like to know how they are doing so. Advertising revenues have absolutely nothing to do with the moderators on MERB. We are not paid and it makes no difference to us how much revenue the advertisers bring in. Limiting our powers? In what way? Any moderator can ban any member, advertiser or other, for any duration even permanently. And we have done so in the past with a number of advertisers who have been overly disruptive on MERB. Expanded NRP and restricting what can be posted? Can you provide any examples? The only thing we restrict is what is directly prohibited by MERB rules and guidelines on posting. Our NRP policy is quite clear, no actively advertised SP will be granted a NRP, we will grant a NRP to any MP that is not advertising on MERB due to the fact that some posts may bring unwanted attention from LE. We do not allow any SP to use the NRP to hide from bad reviews. We receive complaints that we have this policy but HFE posted in this thread that on merc a thread vanished and he did not understand why until he noticed that there was a NRP posted here on MERB. Would members prefer that we acted in that way and did not inform them when threads were removed? We are honest about the fact that we do have such a policy and do not hide it from our members.

New Moderators are chosen by the existing moderators, not by Fred, not by the advertisers. No one has any say in who is invited to be or is appointed a moderator other than the existing moderators.

As for banning posters who make an "honest mistake" as you put it, well if those posters would take even 5 minutes to read the rules on MERB before posting, or look at the suspended members thread, they would find out pretty damn fast what is and is not permitted to be posted here. Ignorance or laziness is not an excuse.
We have put up with these posts for so long and it was time to take a stand. There is no excuse for anyone not to know that posting links to non-advertisers in the 411 thread is going to get you a 2 day suspension. Do we have to make it 2 months before people get it through their thick skulls? The rule is very simple, links are not permitted in the 411 section to any non-advertising site. All links are permitted in reviews. This rule has always existed and in the past links were simply removed. Moderators have grown tired of always removing these links and it is much better to prevent them from being posted in the first place. We have better things to do with our time than remove links.

For the conspiracy theorists,

Moderators are not paid, we do not receive freebies or discounts or extra services from anyone. We donate our time to MERB so that everyone can have a pleasant place to post and have a bit of fun and entertainment. For those of you who believe in these conspiracy theories there is nothing any moderator can say to convince you otherwise. If this is the case the only thing I can say to you is if you do not trust us and do not trust the information posted on MERB, get the fuck off our board! We do not need you here or want you here stirring up shit and creating problems that do not not exist. If anyone continues to post this kind of crap and cannot support their claims with proof, I will ban you permanently. This is your one and only warning.

A special word for SECRET SEDUCTIONS,

You have made some serious accusations against the MERB moderators and administration. I invite you to provide the proof you posted about to a moderator or to post it on the board. I will give you 48hrs to do so. This is not a mild request. If you do not back up your claims, you will be permanently banned from MERB. You state " if I am banned or REMOVED it will certainly NOT be good for MERB's reputation ". Maybe not for those who actually believe you but if I allow this accusation to go unchallenged, it will not be good for MERB to let you stay and spread your bullshit and attack the reputation of MERB and it's moderators while not providing any proof. You have until Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 to provide your proof.

For all members,

If anyone has any valid questions about how the moderators run the board, you are more than welcome to send a PM to any moderator with your question or if you think it may be of interest to other members feel free to start a thread. We will be more than happy to reply to you.

If you have any suggestions as to how we can improve MERB, you may do either of the above suggestions or simply post it in the suggestion thread in the Lounge. We are always looking for ways to improve the board and all input is welcome. No suggestion is too insignificant to be considered and no question will go answered.

If this post seems to have an angry undertone to it, too bad. I am tired of seeing the efforts of all the moderators constantly being attacked and spit on. We donate many hours of our time every day to moderate MERB and make it a worthwhile place to post. We do our best to make sure that those who visit MERB will want to become members and share their experiences and knowledge for everyone's gain. If anyone does not appreciate this and does not have confidence in MERB, then you are free to leave. If you post unsubstantiated accusations, you will be banned.

This is the last time I will post about the unsubstantiated bullshit and rumors that always seem to continue to float around. In the future anyone who posts such garbage better have the proof to back themselves up and be ready to post it or they will be banned permanently from MERB. I have had enough of this.

Mod 8

My post was geared more toward John leaving merb after many years... Due to?
The mods have the answers but are not sharing on the public board. I'm sure if all the rules were the same for all advertisers then John would still be advertising for eleganza on merb.

I don't know why no one else has commented on this but ... I would sure want to know how Escort Agencies are controlling this site.

Is it through their advertising revenues? Do they have a hand in appointing Mods or limiting their powers in some way? Expanded NRP and other similar policies restricting what can be posted? Recurring suspensions on first-time infringers who make an honest mistake (ie providing a link to an MP whom they have not met)?

Or is it something more technologically oriented?

 

[whatgoesaroundcomesaround]

Given that I have encountered a few ladies in the past few months, I am definitely guilty of not contributing as much as I probably should. But whenever comes the time for me to decide whether or not to post a review, the question I ask myself is:

Is there a need for me to post a review on the lady I just met?

Most often than not, the answer I come up is no. The major reason for it is that I tend to go for SPs who have been already abundantly reviewed here (and often very eloquently I might add); e.g. Marie-Eve (Asservissante), Kim, Stacy (ex-Devilish), Allyson (GOF), etc. The experiences I have had so far with them have always been positive (ranging from good to amazing), as the threads for many of these ladies tend to be.

Question then is: why add clutter to threads which are updated on a regular basis?

Add a bit of laziness to it, a lack of inspiration with words, and that's enough usually for me not to contribute.

I wouldn't be surprised if something similar applies to many other lurkers.
R

If everyone were to think like you then there would virtually be no traffic on this board. Nevertheless, I do understand your reasoning.

Its not about whether or not your review is necessary but its a matter of keeping the board current and busy. When i look for a review of a girl on my tdl I want to see a recent review and not one from 2007.

So we need new and current reviews and we also need traffic on this board.

 

[oobe]

why add clutter to threads which are updated on a regular basis?

I don't think a short but factual review will be seen as clutter. A simple "saw her recently, service still stellar as described in previous posts" with possibly a small observation specific to your encounter, for instance "I was surprised she arrived right on time even though it was late in her shift" will be fast to read and still provide some information.

 

[CS Martin]

******editted************

 

[YouVantOption]

I'll just put in a little "advance"...

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=209344&highlight=read+pm's

ALL your PM's are being monitored on this board... I also have the proof of that...

You have provided proof that PMs can be monitored, not that they are being monitored by the moderators.

Welcome to the Internet. Everything on the net can be monitored, and to a degree is. That isn't news.

if the moderators say they lack the ability to monitor PMs, I believe them. The board might not have that particular plugin installed, their respective accounts might not have an appropriate level of permissions assigned, whatever.

Can someone with root access, or someone doing packet-sniffing see and monitor "private" messages? You betcha. So what? Just because the capability is there doesn't mean it is being done.

For all the sturm und drang about legality here the fact remains that the cops have the capability to get a court order, walk into Fred's place of business and demand all information he has about people posting here. Soon, when the government passes 'lawful access', they won't even need a court order.

 

[YouVantOption]

Moderators apply the same rules equally to all advertisers.We do not have different rules for different advertisers. Moderators do not have any contact with any advertiser beyond our moderator duties.

If Agencies are controlling this board, I would also like to know how they are doing so. Advertising revenues have absolutely nothing to do with the moderators on MERB. We are not paid and it makes no difference to us how much revenue the advertisers bring in. Limiting our powers? In what way? Any moderator can ban any member, advertiser or other, for any duration even permanently. And we have done so in the past with a number of advertisers who have been overly disruptive on MERB. Expanded NRP and restricting what can be posted? Can you provide any examples? The only thing we restrict is what is directly prohibited by MERB rules and guidelines on posting. Our NRP policy is quite clear, no actively advertised SP will be granted a NRP

Hi, at risk of invoking your ire, I recall an imbroglio involving Nadya, and one of her girls, where the girl got a bad review (not being GFE) and there was an NRP invoked, yet she still continued to advertise here.

 

[Mod 8]

Hello YVO,

Yes, I remember that incident and what people seem to always forget is that the reason the NRP was invoked was due to a concerted attack against that agency for which a number of members were banned permanently and the main person involved admitted his guilt as well as the posting of false reviews and implicated another agency which was also banned.

The reason she continued to be advertised is that this incident happened before that policy change was made and in fact this incident is the one that gave me the idea to make that change in the NRP. It is no longer possible to have a NRP for a currently advertised SP.

This incident is a perfect example of how rules can be changed to adapt to members' concerns. We further modified the NRP policy to indicate if bad reviews or comments may have been part of the reason a NRP has been requested by a MP by adding a notation in the NRP when it is posted.

We do our best to keep members informed about our actions, whether it is when a member is banned or when a NRP is granted. We much prefer to make the information available to all members instead of just taking action by removing threads or having members mysteriously vanish from MERB.

M8

Hi, at risk of invoking your ire, I recall an imbroglio involving Nadya, and one of her girls, where the girl got a bad review (not being GFE) and there was an NRP invoked, yet she still continued to advertise here.

 

[Jack_Bauer]

Hello everyone,

I would like to make a humorous reply to the quoted posts below but I find that my sense of humor is lacking at the moment. I am actually very pissed off at the moment. How many times do we have to reply to these stupid conspiracy theories, complaints about the NRP and explain that links to non-advertisers are not permitted in 411 posts? It seems that they come up every few months and we got through it all over again.

Well here are a couple of replies for the quoted posts and then I will make a final statement on this matter.

To GiveAndTake,

Moderators apply the same rules equally to all advertisers.We do not have different rules for different advertisers. Moderators do not have any contact with any advertiser beyond our moderator duties. We do not receive kickbacks, we do not receive discounts, no advertiser or other member has any knowledge of who the moderators are. If anyone has anything different to say I invite them to post it here on MERB and be able to back it up with proof. You make an accusation that "The mods have the answers but are not sharing on the public board" Really? Do you have proof of this? Continue posting shit like this with no proof to back up your accusations and I will ban your ass permanently.

To Jack_Bauer,

If Agencies are controlling this board, I would also like to know how they are doing so. Advertising revenues have absolutely nothing to do with the moderators on MERB. We are not paid and it makes no difference to us how much revenue the advertisers bring in. Limiting our powers? In what way? Any moderator can ban any member, advertiser or other, for any duration even permanently. And we have done so in the past with a number of advertisers who have been overly disruptive on MERB. Expanded NRP and restricting what can be posted? Can you provide any examples? The only thing we restrict is what is directly prohibited by MERB rules and guidelines on posting. Our NRP policy is quite clear, no actively advertised SP will be granted a NRP, we will grant a NRP to any MP that is not advertising on MERB due to the fact that some posts may bring unwanted attention from LE. We do not allow any SP to use the NRP to hide from bad reviews. We receive complaints that we have this policy but HFE posted in this thread that on merc a thread vanished and he did not understand why until he noticed that there was a NRP posted here on MERB. Would members prefer that we acted in that way and did not inform them when threads were removed? We are honest about the fact that we do have such a policy and do not hide it from our members.

New Moderators are chosen by the existing moderators, not by Fred, not by the advertisers. No one has any say in who is invited to be or is appointed a moderator other than the existing moderators.

As for banning posters who make an "honest mistake" as you put it, well if those posters would take even 5 minutes to read the rules on MERB before posting, or look at the suspended members thread, they would find out pretty damn fast what is and is not permitted to be posted here. Ignorance or laziness is not an excuse.
We have put up with these posts for so long and it was time to take a stand. There is no excuse for anyone not to know that posting links to non-advertisers in the 411 thread is going to get you a 2 day suspension. Do we have to make it 2 months before people get it through their thick skulls? The rule is very simple, links are not permitted in the 411 section to any non-advertising site. All links are permitted in reviews. This rule has always existed and in the past links were simply removed. Moderators have grown tired of always removing these links and it is much better to prevent them from being posted in the first place. We have better things to do with our time than remove links.

For the conspiracy theorists,

Moderators are not paid, we do not receive freebies or discounts or extra services from anyone. We donate our time to MERB so that everyone can have a pleasant place to post and have a bit of fun and entertainment. For those of you who believe in these conspiracy theories there is nothing any moderator can say to convince you otherwise. If this is the case the only thing I can say to you is if you do not trust us and do not trust the information posted on MERB, get the fuck off our board! We do not need you here or want you here stirring up shit and creating problems that do not not exist. If anyone continues to post this kind of crap and cannot support their claims with proof, I will ban you permanently. This is your one and only warning.

A special word for SECRET SEDUCTIONS,

You have made some serious accusations against the MERB moderators and administration. I invite you to provide the proof you posted about to a moderator or to post it on the board. I will give you 48hrs to do so. This is not a mild request. If you do not back up your claims, you will be permanently banned from MERB. You state " if I am banned or REMOVED it will certainly NOT be good for MERB's reputation ". Maybe not for those who actually believe you but if I allow this accusation to go unchallenged, it will not be good for MERB to let you stay and spread your bullshit and attack the reputation of MERB and it's moderators while not providing any proof. You have until Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 to provide your proof.

For all members,

If anyone has any valid questions about how the moderators run the board, you are more than welcome to send a PM to any moderator with your question or if you think it may be of interest to other members feel free to start a thread. We will be more than happy to reply to you.

If you have any suggestions as to how we can improve MERB, you may do either of the above suggestions or simply post it in the suggestion thread in the Lounge. We are always looking for ways to improve the board and all input is welcome. No suggestion is too insignificant to be considered and no question will go answered.

If this post seems to have an angry undertone to it, too bad. I am tired of seeing the efforts of all the moderators constantly being attacked and spit on. We donate many hours of our time every day to moderate MERB and make it a worthwhile place to post. We do our best to make sure that those who visit MERB will want to become members and share their experiences and knowledge for everyone's gain. If anyone does not appreciate this and does not have confidence in MERB, then you are free to leave. If you post unsubstantiated accusations, you will be banned.

This is the last time I will post about the unsubstantiated bullshit and rumors that always seem to continue to float around. In the future anyone who posts such garbage better have the proof to back themselves up and be ready to post it or they will be banned permanently from MERB. I have had enough of this.

Mod 8

Mod 8, thanks for your input.

I know that you guys have a thankless job. Far be it from me to try and make your life more difficult. Was merely attempting to see where there may have been flexibility to make this place as user-friendly as possible, without collateral baggage.

Too often, I see thread starters who won't post a link even if they are reviewing a SP. I think some of them are just being extra careful and don't want to risk a suspension even if, as most of us realize, you can post a link when you review someone. To make things easier, would it be OK for posters of a thread where a review is provided by anyone who contributes in the thread. to add a link to the SP in the place of the reviewer? I mean, if an SP is reviewed by someone, does it really matter who posts the link in the thread?

On a more general level, I appreciate the hands-on approach demonstrated by yourself and Mod 11. I think it's a good thing for users to know where you stand and how decisions are made. Far too often, we don't get to see the reasoning behind decisions, so for myself at least, the answers provided in this thread give me a better appreciation of how the site works.

And no, I'm not into conspiracy theories either. If some believe there are hidden agendas at play or favoritism, then let them come out clean. Throwing out accusations without facts to back them up, is just a waste of everyone's time.

 

[Mod 11]

JB, anybody can post the link, as long as the link points to the same place as when the review was done.

If the girl move from one MERB advertiser to another MERB advertiser, it's still fine to post the new link, without a new review.

If the girl move to a non-advertiser or becomes indy without being an advertiser, a new review will be required before the link is posted to the new place. This is simply to avoid undeserved free publicity.

The goal is to accommodate the members and the advertisers somewhere in the middle of the request field.

 

[Mod 8]

Hello Jack,

In addition to M11's post, I have no objection if someone were to post a link to a provider when the original reviewer does not include one in his review. This will also avoid the usual posts that always tend to follow in a review thread asking for such a link when one has not been included.

But we will not permit posts that include links asking "is this is the link?". Please be certain that the link posted is the correct one as we would not want posters to use a review thread to get around the regulation of not posting links in the 411 section.

M8

 

[whatgoesaroundcomesaround]

While we're on the topic of NRPs I would like to ask the following question.

From what I gather the following person should not be allowed to have a NRP but does. Mods plese correct me if I am wrong.

Kelly from xxxtase. I tried to post a review. Mods said no way she has a NRP. But xxxtase advertises on merb (occasionally) therefore shouldn't all xxxtase girls be reviewable?

 

[Turbodick]

What a tangled web we weave.

 

[Mod 8]

If she is currently being advertised by xxxtase please send me a link and I will remove her NRP. Her NRP was granted on the grounds she had left the business. If she has returned, and is actively being advertised, the NRP is no longer applicable.

M8

 

[whatgoesaroundcomesaround]

If she is currently being advertised by xxxtase please send me a link and I will remove her NRP. Her NRP was granted on the grounds she had left the business. If she has returned, and is actively being advertised, the NRP is no longer applicable.

M8

Well this is where things get complicated.

You see Mod8, Kelly works rarely. But she did work a couple of weeks ago. Because xxxtase only occasionally advertises on merb, it is very possible that xxxtase did not advertise here on merb that exact day. So it boils down to this. Is she reviewable if her agency is an advertiser on merb, despite the fact that by coincidence, her agency did not advertise on merb the day she worked?

Personally I feel that if xxxtase advertises on merb, their girls should be reviewable. I believe this to be merb policy. Clearly she has not left the business. She's on their website and has been for a long time! If you ask me, it should be open season!

 

[Mod 8]

Hello everyone,

If any SP is currently being advertised on an agency or personal website, she is not eligible for a NRP. I have checked the xxxtase website, thanks to CS Martin for sending me the link, and I have lifted Kelly's NRP.

If anyone notices any SP with a NRP currently being advertised on a website, please contact me and I will make the proper adjustments to the NRP thread.

The basis of the NRP is to protect a lady's privacy if she leaves the business or in cases of personal safety issues where she will also be removed from the agency's site. It is quite likely that when a girl returns to the business that an agency will not think of notifying us to remove the NRP. In such cases please feel free to notify me by PM and I will take the necessary measures and remove the NRP.

Thank you,

M8

 

[CS Martin]

******editted************

 

[whatgoesaroundcomesaround]

Mod 8,

I started a thread a few weeks ago named mystery girl at xxxtase or something like that. It was shut down and I think it should be reopened. I'd appreciate it if you could do that. And let the world know I was talking about Kelly. Hopefully now the pms will stop.

 

[Mod 8]

Done. You can find the thread here:

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=51929

M8