Review inflation

[Fradi]

The Barbie doll wouldn’t be a blonde tall slim woman if that wasn’t the case.

BTW.
Launch. The first Barbie doll was introduced in both blonde and brunette on March 9, 1959. The first Barbie doll wore a black-and-white zebra striped swimsuit and signature topknot ponytail, and was available as either a blonde or brunette.

 

[Workingman]

I personally didn't read the topic as beauty standards although a percentage may fit into that category.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a very high % of reviews detail much older or heavier than expected. Simply because of beauty standards most providers don't portray reality. This post is stretching that concept to reviews that operate on the same level. This board is well known by most providers and is another avenue for advertising. I have been personally pressured to leave a good review multiple times at the end of a session.

 

[wolfie7]

that's useless information unless you can correlate it with another set of information such as public pictures on instagram or facebook. If you have a public profile or your friends have public profiles where they tag you then one can correlate information. That's what I am refering to when I say people are careless. Even discussing vacation plans is careless. You never know who knows who and that's not being paranoid, anyone with some knowledge can track an unsuspecting person.

Also, I didn’t realize SPs are forced to brand themselves with unique and easily identifiable tattoos. So that’s not personal choice? And that’s why it absolves them of any accountability and elicits outrage when mongers report them? Oh my. Poor things. SMH.

My previous statement still applies. You have agency. You made a choice getting a unique tat, and getting into this business. The judgment is yours. Don’t blame your own stupidity on someone else.

 

[Sylar]

I find that 80-90 % of the hobby is based on deception. From false pictures and descriptions to false promises of services rendered and their cost, etc.,etc. I didn't say 100% because there are ladies (usually at the higher end of the industry and pricier) who deliver as advertised and even beyond. These are the gems.

The higher priced SPs I have encountered usually offer a wider range of (specialized) services and are generally considered conventionally attractive or fulfill a certain fantasy in terms of looks. I’ve seen no correlation between the price and the quality of service offered.

 

[talkinghead]

The higher priced SPs I have encountered usually offer a wider range of (specialized) services and are generally considered conventionally attractive or fulfill a certain fantasy in terms of looks. I’ve seen no correlation between the price and the quality of service offered.

I agree, and it may be more true now that there are so many Indies. I'm curious, though, whether you're comparing the higher-priced Indies to other higher-priced Indies ... or to agencies/lower-priced indies. In other words, are you saying that there's no correlation between price and quality within the upscale indy world? Or are you saying that spending more on an indy gives looks and specializations but not more quality than agencies?

 

[Sylar]

I agree, and it may be more true now that there are so many Indies. I'm curious, though, whether you're comparing the higher-priced Indies to other higher-priced Indies ... or to agencies/lower-priced indies. In other words, are you saying that there's no correlation between price and quality within the upscale indy world? Or are you saying that spending more on an indy gives looks and specializations but not more quality than agencies?

I think it applies to both. I’ve never paid more than $500 an hour for the base service and no matter how good the GFE or PSE is, there will always be a point of diminishing returns.
So for me to go beyond that rate has to be something special. Either a specific fantasy I want to fulfill in terms of service/kink or an insanely beautiful woman that I’ve always dreamed of. Ideally a combination of both.

That said, I also don’t see a correlation of quality for base services no matter if I book a $100 (outside Canada) or $500 session. This applies equally to indies and agencies. I do however refrain from booking indies from unreliable sites here in MTL.

 

[Julia Sky]

Also, I didn’t realize SPs are forced to brand themselves with unique and easily identifiable tattoos. So that’s not personal choice? And that’s why it absolves them of any accountability and elicits outrage when mongers report them? Oh my. Poor things. SMH.

My previous statement still applies. You have agency. You made a choice getting a unique tat, and getting into this business. The judgment is yours. Don’t blame your own stupidity on someone else.

?? That still doesn't mean clients should divulge personal identifying details. You can say "she has a tattoo" without describing the tattoo.

Many clients made the choice of getting married to women who de toute évidence don't want to fuck them, it was a choice and it's the reason they became clients, but you won't catch anyone describing their wedding ring in details. If we did, we would be rightfully blamed, even if you're the one who chose that marriage. It's a bad comparison because obviously we aren't reviewing clients, but the point is that some things should remain private. We don't have to post things that can reveal someone's identity on merb.

 

[Sylar]

?? That still doesn't mean clients should divulge personal identifying details. You can say "she has a tattoo" without describing the tattoo.

Many clients made the choice of getting married to women who de toute évidence don't want to fuck them, it was a choice and it's the reason they became clients, but you won't catch anyone describing their wedding ring in details. If we did, we would be rightfully blamed, even if you're the one who chose that marriage. It's a bad comparison because obviously we aren't reviewing clients, but the point is that some things should remain private. We don't have to post things that can reveal someone's identity on merb.

I agree with you 100% but that comparison made no sense whatsoever.

 

[Workingman]

No comparison needed. Respecting each others privacy and personal life is paramount.

 

[talkinghead]

I think it applies to both. I’ve never paid more than $500 an hour for the base service and no matter how good the GFE or PSE is, there will always be a point of diminishing returns.
So for me to go beyond that rate has to be something special. Either a specific fantasy I want to fulfill in terms of service/kink or an insanely beautiful woman that I’ve always dreamed of. Ideally a combination of both.

That said, I also don’t see a correlation of quality for base services no matter if I book a $100 (outside Canada) or $500 session. This applies equally to indies and agencies. I do however refrain from booking indies from unreliable sites here in MTL.

That's quite consistent with my experience as well. The only thing I'd add is that I've found Indies to be more consistently good--but not more consistently outstanding. Of my top 10 experiences, I'd say that it's about half agencies and half Indies. My bottom 10 are all agencies.

 

[Julia Sky]

I agree with you 100% but that comparison made no sense whatsoever.

I know! I woke up 10mins ago give me a chance HAHA. The comparison was stupid but it drives the point home, nobody wants their identity to be outed on merb!

 

[Fradi]

?? That still doesn't mean clients should divulge personal identifying details. You can say "she has a tattoo" without describing the tattoo.

Many clients made the choice of getting married to women who de toute évidence don't want to fuck them, it was a choice and it's the reason they became clients, but you won't catch anyone describing their wedding ring in details. If we did, we would be rightfully blamed, even if you're the one who chose that marriage. It's a bad comparison because obviously we aren't reviewing clients, but the point is that some things should remain private. We don't have to post things that can reveal someone's identity on merb.

I agree that people should use common sense and not do things that can easily reveal the identity of each other and that goes for both client and SP.
I think SP are better at protecting client information because it can ruin their reputation if word gets out that they are careless and they deal with it on a daily basis.

There are many SP that have complete detailed photographs of their entire body and their face and then wonder why they get recognized by people and restricted from entering some countries.

It is a risky game on both sides when it comes to protecting your identity, but the main player is always yourself for allowing personal information to be seen either on media or in person.
The buck always stops with the individual unfortunately because there will always be careless people and some who are just plain scumbags and will out you intentionally.
Some will give out information simply because they are clueless and not out of malice.

 

[kkrack]

?? That still doesn't mean clients should divulge personal identifying details. You can say "she has a tattoo" without describing the tattoo.

Many clients made the choice of getting married to women who de toute évidence don't want to fuck them, it was a choice and it's the reason they became clients, but you won't catch anyone describing their wedding ring in details. If we did, we would be rightfully blamed, even if you're the one who chose that marriage. It's a bad comparison because obviously we aren't reviewing clients, but the point is that some things should remain private. We don't have to post things that can reveal someone's identity on merb.

What are you gonna do about it? Control every single freak who divulge information about your tattoos? You know there are people you have no control over so it is up to you to take proper steps if you want to do that kind of work and be as safe as possible. I would go as far as removing a tattoo if it is imperative for me not to be recognized with ink.

 

[Fradi]

Unfortunately for us most times that lady with exceptional service for $250h becomes so popular and so much in demand that it doesn’t take her long to raise her rates to $600h.
The service hasn’t changed it was great before and now also and she deserves to have earned the popularity and to be able to have a rate that high.

We would want the same in our jobs and careers as we gain experience and are acknowledged for what we are worth it is natural to want to be paid at the highest rate that you are able to get.

Some of us are lucky and were able to see her when she was still much more affordable and some are even more lucky and can still afford her.
We either adjust to what our wallet will bear or go broke.

 

[Julia Sky]

What are you gonna do about it? Control every single freak who divulge information about your tattoos? You know there are people you have no control over so it is up to you to take proper steps if you want to do that kind of work and be as safe as possible. I would go as far as removing a tattoo if it is imperative for me not to be recognized with ink.

I literally post my tattoos in my ads, this isn't about me. But when you meet a girl who removes hers in her pictures it should be common sense to not describe them in details. It's unnecessary and risky. You can say someone has tattoos without being super specific about it.

 

[Enjoying life]

?? That still doesn't mean clients should divulge personal identifying details. You can say "she has a tattoo" without describing the tattoo.

Many clients made the choice of getting married to women who de toute évidence don't want to fuck them, it was a choice and it's the reason they became clients, but you won't catch anyone describing their wedding ring in details. If we did, we would be rightfully blamed, even if you're the one who chose that marriage. It's a bad comparison because obviously we aren't reviewing clients, but the point is that some things should remain private. We don't have to post things that can reveal someone's identity on merb.

Yet they pay all the bills and see SPs! Why get married!

 

[urquell]

This is rapidly becoming the stupidest, most disjointed and incoherent thread I've ever seen.

 

[Fradi]

I literally post my tattoos in my ads, this isn't about me. But when you meet a girl who removes hers in her pictures it should be common sense to not describe them in details. It's unnecessary and risky. You can say someone has tattoos without being super specific about it.

Common sense from horny men?
Love your optimism.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

More likely but not exclusively. I have reported reviews before that had nothing to do with me. (I’ve never seen the SP and had no interest in ever booking her)

That's really kind of you to do that, but I've seen a lot of really inappropriate posts and reviews that have not been removed. Not everyone is that nice.

This. For the SPs who complain about personal information coming up in reviews.

It's super simple. Stop it at its source - you. Lmao.

If your personal information comes up because you lack the judgment who you tell it to, that's entirely on you. Anyone with a tiny bit of sense understands that. Unless there's deep connection, and you establish trust, don't be stupid.

I agree that we have to be extremely careful with private info, but a lot of clients end up finding that information anyways. A lot of people gossip. There's also certain type of info that isn't necessarily ''personal'' but that could still lead to the SP being in danger, such as revealing where their incall is, etc.

Imagine if someone was like "people who don't leave reviews on google or Yelp shouldn't be allowed to see the reviews and ratings or to use these sites"

The board isn't just for reviews. It's financed by our ads and I think it's perfectly valid for a client to prefer staying low profile especially in a climate where you guys are essentially criminals for hiring us. It's okay to read reviews even if one doesn't write any, and that is true for many businesses. I would hope people read reviews before they hire a professional regardless of the field - accountant, lawyer, escort, nail stylist, a custom birthday cake, you name it - and regardless of if they also write reviews or not.

Also? Beauty is 100% subjective, this isn't a debate it's a fact. Tastes are not universal and nobody gets to decide what others find attractive.

I was initially going to respond to individual comments but I got a headache and figured a general answer would work better lol.

Agreed 100% with everything you said. The board is literally financed by us.

No offense to anyone but these threads are really annoying and sometimes I feel like they are meant for us SP's to see and feel bad.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I willl just add: if a lurker ever sends me a DM asking questions or seeking Intel, you can be sure that I won’t answer. Just like lurkers have a right not to contribute, we have a right not to respond to them.

I think that's a completely different topic tho. Of course you have the right not to respond to lurkers.