Photo radar in Quebec

[master_bates]

Do you think is a safety concern or another cash grab?

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090224/mtl_radar_090224/20090224/?hub=MontrealHome

 

[G1GBallday]

Just a few useful links.

http://photoradarbuster.com/

http://www.radarbusters.com/photo-radar/6524+6528.cfm

 

[bond_james_bond]

Do you think is a safety concern or another cash grab?

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090224/mtl_radar_090224/20090224/?hub=MontrealHome

It's a cash grab, imo.

I would support them ... if the government also re-examined the speed limits on the affected roadways to determine if the speed limits are appropriate.

 

[bond_james_bond]

Just a few useful links.

http://photoradarbuster.com/

http://www.radarbusters.com/photo-radar/6524+6528.cfm

I wonder how long before those are banned, like radar detectors.

 

[metoo4]

G1, the plate blockers were proved useless.

The electronic gps camera detector, they don't detect anything, they rely on databases updated by human beings using the system in the zone of interest. If there's no user of the specific product in the area, the database won't be updated so, you'll never know what hit you!

 

[master_bates]

I think it is a cash grab and will surely avoid those intersections where the

cameras are placesd.

1) No way to prove who the driver is...can you just imagine how many people will be contesting these tickets? How much will this cost to taxpayers in terms of loss of time? ok, so no demerit points but c'mon...

They dont really care who the driver is, the owner of the car is the one the

ticket will be sent to. Its up to him after to figure out if it was him or

someone else driving the car at the time.

 

[DUMPTHEPUCK]

I'm so annoyed by this.

Let's be honest here for a second... if the government really wanted to halt speeding they would simply force car makers to limit vehicles to 100kph.

there's no way in hell that they'll halt speeding. it there major source of revenue. whithout that we will be paying more taxes...

and for the radar, it to cut on humain payroll sitting in a car getting paid, using a car, waisting gas and writting up a citation.. i give it 2 years after it's up and it will come down...it will never last. it will cost the city more in court contesting the tickets .

my 2 cents

dtp

 

[panthere]

hi

http://photoradarbuster.com/

trust me i gonna buy one for sure
p.s.but where could i buy it???

 

[metoo4]

http://photoradarbuster.com/

trust me i gonna buy one for sure
p.s.but where could i buy it???

Panthere, I said it before, these tricks just don't work.

They are going to advertise where these photo-shit will be installed. They only thing left for drivers is to obey the law in these sectors. Will it slow-down peoples and make yellow lights be seen as a "prepare to stop" indication rather than the current "speed-up"? I think so.

 

[master_bates]

Locations of cameras

In total, there will be 15 locations in Quebec, and six of those in Montreal:

-McDougal at the entrance of Le Boulevard and Cedar avenue in Westmount

-Ste-Catherine east at Iberville

-Notre-Dame east at the entrance of De Lorimier and Gonthier Ave.

-University at Notre-Dame west

-On Highway 15 south, 300 metres before the Atwater exit

-Decarie north at Pare

 

[DUMPTHEPUCK]

Locations of cameras

In total, there will be 15 locations in Quebec, and six of those in Montreal:

-McDougal at the entrance of Le Boulevard and Cedar avenue in Westmount

-Ste-Catherine east at Iberville

-Notre-Dame east at the entrance of De Lorimier and Gonthier Ave.

-University at Notre-Dame west

-On Highway 15 south, 300 metres before the Atwater exit

-Decarie north at Pare

even better im only there about 4 time a year...lol

 

[oobe]

Another limpy move towards a police state if you ask me. Just like the cell phones.

And what about that: http://bauermill.wordpress.com/2007/01/16/onspy-the-gps-privacy-invasion/
With the Onstar system, they can track where you are, what speed you've been driving, what you're saying...

Also: http://www.suddenlyeverythingsucks.com/issues/privacy_onstar_gps_tracking.shtml
I personally think private companies are a bigger threat to privacy than the government, since what they do is not as publicized or scrutinized, plus they will share happily with said government anyway.

Another reason to let GM go out of business.

 

[Ben Dover]

A few years back I was looking at a GM vehicle and the dealer refused to remove the onstar system. I told him I wanted it 100% out, not just disabled and they wouldn't do it. So I didn't buy from GM...

I agree that it's a ridiculous invasion of privacy. All you onstar people who see SPs and MPs etc and would rather nobody else know about it -- well all your driving is recorded by onstar... Think about that.

BD

 

[metoo4]

To disable OnStar, you simply unplug the antenna. After a while, the transmitter will likely blow-up (because of SWR too high cause by the transmitter "pushing" into a non-existant antenna at full power) and, in the mean time, it won't connect to the cellular network 90% of the time because the signal will be too low.

OnStar DOES use the cellular phone network so, if your phone have no reception, it is likely OnStar won't work, unless they are on a competitor's network who happen to have a cell tower closer than your cell phone provider's. I think OnStar use CDMA so, Bell and Telus in Canada.

OnStar can't be removed on newer models. On older ones, (the ones with big cell phone antenna) the cellular module and GPS were separate from the car's electronics but nowadays, they are integrated to other components. The removing of the antenna wire for the cell phone and gps is still the best and simpler way to go.

 

[MagicFingers]

How to Eliminate the Perceived Cash Grab in the Eyes of the Public

In order for the public not to perceive an attempted cash grab we need a solemn pledge from the authorities that the total amount of fines issued will be at the same level as the previous year for similar traffic infractions.
If this means that not all but only some of the infractions caught on the camera can be ticketed SO BE IT and let it be done by at random by a random ticket generator.
If this pledge is received then I will buy the argument that the authorities are really concerned about traffic fatalities.
So I lay down the challenge to politically connected merbites to lobby the proper authorities to come up with such a pledge. ( JOKE ... )

 

[master_bates]

Complete list of all 15 photo radar spots in quebec

MONTREAL(6)
Red lights
-University street intersection notre-dame ouest
-Saint Catherine east intersection Iberville
-Boulevard Decarie north intersection Pare

Fixed photo radar
-Chemin Mcdougal between le Boulevard and avenue Cedar
-Autoroute 15 south about 300 m before atwater exit

Mobile photo radar
-Notre dame east between ave de l'orimier and ave gonthier
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MONTEREGIE(4)
Saint - Constant
Red lights
-Route 132 intersection boulevard Mon champ

Fixed photo radar
Boucherville
-Autoroute 20 west 200 m before boulevard de montagne

Pincourt
-Autoroute 20 east 350 m before west of boulevard de l'Ile

Mobile photo radar
Marieville
-Route 112 starting from the municipal limit of Richelieu until the limit of sainte angele de monoir
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CHAUDIERES APALACHES(5)
Levis
Red lights
-Route 173 president kennedy road intersection of boulevard wilfrid carrier
and rue louis hp lafontaine

Thetford mines
-Boulevard frontenac east route 112 intersection boulevard ouellet

Fixed photo radar
Levis
-Autoroute 20 about 1 km before exit for pierre laporte bridge

Saint georges de beauce
-Boulevard lacroix route 173 intersection of 114th street

Mobile photo radar
Beauceville
-Route 173 between intersection du Golf and the municipal limit of notre dame des pins

 

[Doc Holliday]

About a dozen years ago, photo radar was introduced in southern Ontario & was a huge financial success. However, politicians & off-duty cops began receiving speeding tickets through the mail & since they couldn't talk their way out of a fine like they were used to doing, they lobbied the politicians & cancelling photo radar was the first thing the Mike Harris PC government did when they came into power in Ontario, as they had promised to do.

It's a cash-grab.

 

[mr.magoo]

during my vacation in melbourne i noticed they had red light and speeding radars.. but they also had signs saying ( warning speeding radar up ahead ) is it the same case here?? do they have warning signs ? or do t hey simply put them ?? with no signs warning you

 

[master_bates]

The location of the radars have already been posted online no signs needed.

I have also taken the time to post them in this topic on page 2.

In cornwall driving to toronto there's aerial surveillance signs warning you

 

[Arrrg]

Here are a few clips for those that think they can beat it...

Myth Busters: How to beat a speed camera (Busted)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJh3tOiDq8w&feature=related

Photoblocker Phantomplate (Busted)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bXvdlF_1E8&feature=related

The guys on Top Gear beat the speeding photo radar by going 300mph or something hehehe. The thing didn't even flash.