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Fradi

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You forgot one apparently he also knows how to become President of the US or did that little tidbit escape you.
He is not half bad at hobbying either, I am not sure many of us would walk away from Stormy, yeah I know none of us would pay those outrages prices, not because we can’t afford it, just because we are smarter than that, what a fucking idiot that Trump.
 
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Patron,
What would be the fun in me joining the Three Musketeers and posting another 20 caricatures of Trump daily.
He is an egotistical shit human being, I have never disputed that, as for his policies, I still maintain he was better for the economy than Hillary would have been. Things were going quite well on both sides of the border until the virus hit.
He fucked up royally on the handling of the virus as did many other world leaders and it cost him the Presidency.
The riots at the Capital were not one of his smartest moves but just shows how egotistical he is and how he can’t handle losing, definitely was never a team player in his life.
 
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Patron, I dislike so trump that anything I can find to demean him, I talk about it.

I hate people who give themselves all the honors, who call themselves number 1, who put themselves on a pedestal. When you are a good person you do not need tricks, all people notice it.

Trump divided the United States, and also the Republicans.
 

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I think that Trump is an interesting and consequential figure, and his policies are certainly worth discussing and perhaps debating. If, however, you visited this and parallel threads at least occasionally, you surely realize that this is not what's going on here. Childish name calling (of the kind most kindergarten students would probably be ashamed of) and pointing out the color Orange for 200th time -- yes, deficit-financed tax cuts -- sorry, no way.
I don't agree with you, Trump is not an interesting figure, and his policies are certainly not worth discussing.

I wouldn't stop my insults, and the color orange is just another proof of his insanity, and the 200th time, is not enough.


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The orange is a very beautiful color, but not on trump.
 

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Sen,

You have got to look beyond the mask of a politician.
Trump was always in your face and you knew and still know he is a despicable human being. He is unique that his ego was so large that he couldn’t hide it.
The problem is you actually think Biden and his family are not just as corrupt and for that matter Hillary also.
unfortunately in today’s world all politicians that rise to the top come from a similar mold and are not decent people once they get to that position they have to pay back the people that got them there who are even more corrupt than they are , and that always ends with you getting screwed. The money and the people behind the money that elect a President are always the ones that are in real control.
The choice is always trying to pick the one that screws you the least, not exactly something to look forward to.
Yes, I have a dismal view of all politicians.
 

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I hated Trump long before he went into politics. Before the Apprentice. When he was married to his first wife and a Democrat and contributing money, he didn`t have, to the Clintons.
I hate bullies and egomaniacs who turn on their friends and foes with equal animosity. Those who take advantage of the weak and gullible. Who have a god complex and admire ruthless dictators and pedo-files. Those who steal from the USA to give to themselves.
He has every character that makes humans inhuman. He hates and is afraid of dogs, maybe because they can smell the stench of his rotten soul.
 

sene5hos

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Fradi I too think that all politicians are corrupt, or become so.

Trump was well before he became president.

And he is the most corrupt of all.

Trump in bad to the bone.

George Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad To The Bone.

 

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Looking into my crystal ball I see the US in 2 years being even more divided and splintered than to-day.
There will be 3 major political parties. The trump/randpaul type conservative Republicans. The Sanders/AOC type pinky/socialist Democrats. And finally a centrist party made up of moderate Republicans united with middle of the road Democrats and Independents . Let an Eisenhower/Reagan type president bring back sanity to the US .
 
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I see it a little differently. I can't accept the snuck premise or introduction of points of contention as though they are a given. Building a brand worth hundreds of millions is not business success? Appointing right leaning judges to align with the ideologies of the party that the people elected or over turning Roe v. Wade should be assumed as problematic? If one doesn't, it makes the points that follow difficult to digest.

Sure, Trump says and does inappropriate things, he lacks empathy, etc., but he was a conduit to a political philosophy that a large portion of the population wanted. Getting past frivolous concepts like celebrity vs the institution or outsider against insider or the silent vote, many positions resonated with the people: America first, populist revolt against immigration and trade, defense spending, reigning in offensive overregulation, prior enrollment in world organizations or causes that some believed provided little value or low probability of a meaningful outcome, and yes, appointing judges and reversing Roe v. Wade, which a lot of Americans think should never have succeeded in the first place.

At times I attempt to catch non arguments from some who hold very broad opinions very strongly without being able to articulate what they mean specifically. Sure, if there was another option to Trump, I would be the first to cast my vote, but if the attempt here is to convince people that Biden/Harris is that choice, no way. I guess for me personally, I shake my head and overlook the idiocy that is Trump for what I believe is the greater good. Let's be real, Trump knows nothing of war, global economics, foreign policy, or healthcare. These are driven by the 'shadow' government, as has been the case with all presidents and monarchies dating back thousands of years. I question how much influence one man or woman could have in that office.

I guess I choose the shadow government behind Trump over the one behind B/H. Universities revoking degrees, corporate America silencing presidents, socialist agendas, blatantly biased media ... yes, Trump is a [insert pejoratives here], but the former doesn't concern you more?

Polls are a funny thing. Trump has an incredibly low approval rating. In fact, I would be one to check not approve, because I don't, but I would vote for him again if he was the conduit to a republican government to keep the disingenuous B/H and the insidious Pelosi out.

History has a funny way of remembering presidents. It's probably too early to tell. The rule of thumb I've always heard is 50 years. Sadly, I won't be around to find out.

I wish it could be as simple as big bad orange man, I hate him, let's vote him out. Sometimes tyranny rises from ashes of tyranny.
 
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Looking into my crystal ball I see the US in 2 years being even more divided and splintered than to-day.
There will be 3 major political parties. The trump/randpaul type conservative Republicans. The Sanders/AOC type pinky/socialist Democrats. And finally a centrist party made up of moderate Republicans united with middle of the road Democrats and Independents . Let an Eisenhower/Reagan type president bring back sanity to the US .
Perhaps you should get together with Zoltan the fortune teller and maybe instead predict the winning lottery ticket.
Politics is only predictable in a sense that you will definitely get screwed, a bit like hobbying but far less enjoyable.
 

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I think you forgot that somehow Trump keeps rearing his ugly head in almost every thread our disinterested poster enters in.
If I was equally disinterested in one of the lovely ladies advertising here I would probably get arrested for stalking.
 
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Perhaps you should get together with Zoltan the fortune teller and maybe instead predict the winning lottery ticket.
Politics is only predictable in a sense that you will definitely get screwed, a bit like hobbying but far less enjoyable.
What do you propose in place ?
We don' live in small tribes since a few hundred years.
In polls, politicians are second less trusted after used cars salesmen with good reasons as you express.
They are unfortunately a necessity as well as going make a no 2 about one time a day.
 
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