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The NY Times does not get to decide the election. The Courts will. There will either be evidence of voter fraud to support the lawsuits or not. That process needs to play out.
It does not need to be a voter fraud in a primitive case. For example, changing voting rules for whatever reason by bodies that are not authorized to do it is also disputable in courts. This what Trump team is trying to do. We all have observed how results changed in Pennsylvania when they started counting ballots received by mail in days after election. Some of these ballots were received after polls were closed and counted on the basis that they were mailed before the election day. After they were counted the mailing envelopes were destroyed thus mailing date can’t be verified at the recount. There are some similar concerns about other procedures.

The bottom line is that in some states the difference is probably below the “white noise”. Anybody who believes that votes can be counted with absolute accuracy (“every vote counts”) is delusional and has no understanding of the physical reality. Without a sufficient margin it is akin to tossing a coin.
 

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changing voting rules for whatever reason by bodies that are not authorized to do it is also disputable in courts. This what Trump team is trying to do. We all have observed how results changed in Pennsylvania when they started counting ballots received by mail in days after election. Some of these ballots were received after polls were closed and counted on the basis that they were mailed before the election day. After they were counted the mailing envelopes were destroyed thus mailing date can’t be verified at the recount. There are some similar concerns about other procedures.

I had mentioned earlier in the thread I had concerns about this and the Courts indeed should speak on this issue. This again is a 10th amendment Constitutional issue. I posted earlier my father's suggestions that the 10th amendment be amended, because States should have power over State Elections but NOT the federal election rules and procedures. I do not know if any of these lawsuits raised the constitutional issues or not or, if they were raised, whether there are any grounds to support them. My father believes, and I think he may be correct, that there needs to be an amendment to the Constitution and specifically the 10th amendment which on its face does not allow or provide for federal control, i.e., it allows the States to do what they want. Or there could be a separate amendment or legislation vesting a UNIFORM system of rules and procedures in the federal government. However, any such legislation would need to be bipartisan and enacted by all of Congress. This discusses amending the Constitution:


I should add by way of disclaimer that Constitutional Law was one of my weaker subjects in law school. There was a question on the final exam that involved the 10th amendment and another that involved the 13th amendment, and I fucked both of them up. I did, however, have a scholarly article I wrote on the 4th amendment exclusionary rule selected for publication.
 
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Well, Im not a psychiatrist but pretty certain this bitch Trumpy’s F’ing crazy. I don’t really care what my dad and grandpa think, I’m sooo f’ing Certain. They need to revoke the Goldwater rule.

The election is over. Trump lost, end of discussion. There was no fraud and no one stole anything. The only thing that needs to be stolen is the virginity of these sad tossers coming up with all this fraud bullshit

Listen to Good ol mike
 
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You see this is what I mean. Listen to this nut job go on and on about the constitution and rule of law blah blah blah. Listen to Fox News host Sandra Smith, who didn’t know she was on a hot mic say something like “What? What is happening...we called it.”

If the Constitution is amended maybe it should say that the news network with the highest rating should be allowed to make the call in close elections?
 

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You see this is what I mean. Listen to this nut job go on and on about the constitution and rule of law blah blah blah. Listen to Fox News host Sandra Smith, who didn’t know she was on a hot mic say something like “What? What is happening...we called it.”

If the Constitution is amended maybe it should say that the news network with the highest rating should be allowed to make the call in close elections?
Years ago I worked in the Fox News building on 6th Avenue in NYC. No, I didn't work for Fox, they were on a different floor. Anyway, Sandra Smith back in the day was smoking hot, along with most of the ladies that worked there. I got to see them all the time. Very hot, now back to the election!
 

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I did Sandra Smith’s doppelgänger at Oase in Frankfurt DE. Yes, she is smokin hot!
 

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A republican himself who fought during the 2000 bush v gore litigation with the supreme court



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What a nice family photograph.
All that is missing is the sound track of the Sound of Music.
“The Hills are alive “ it is almost as if I can hear it playing in the background.
 
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This reminds me that Rapaport co-starred in the last good movie Arnold Schwarznegger made, a futuristic film called The 6th Day. In the movie Rapaport plays Arnold's buddy, who is obsessed with having sex with holographic escorts. His character is killed off early in the movie, igniting Arnold's vengeance-mindedness, but I think this was a fundamental plot mistake as you wanted to see more of the Rapapaport character exploring his sexual attraction with holographic escorts and whether he would have had a holographic escort party with Arnold's skeptical character in the film. Really some lost opportunities by those filmmakers.
 

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The Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud. (big work, 50 states).

The president and his allies have baselessly claimed that rampant voter fraud stole victory from him. Officials contacted by The Times said that there were no irregularities that affected the outcome.
Did someone noticed that Republicans had gains in Congress, hold Senate and had gains in States legislatures ?
Can it mean that many wanted to get rid of Trump but remained faithful of their party ?
 

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Good.....we SLOWLY move on ;) ..it seems a growing list of Repub. asking WH to give Biden transition founds and access to his briefings :)BUT for the MONARCH the more important is finding a way to PARDON HIMSELF...wow....of what????;)....what a disgrace...some aids are split on the isssue...wow....ils ont du guts......;)...could he clear the place asap.....
 

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Didn't Lyndon Johnson technically resign by not running for re-election in 1968? He served out his elected term, but wasn't it a de facto resignation when he declined to be nominated by his party? Where are the American historians in this thread?

 

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With all this chaos and country out of control with that tragic virus---242,000 + deaths ---the MONARCH hides in his golden palace and tweets about Fox ratings going down.....yes,,,pathetic.....
 

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Johnson "resigned" because he knew he was not getting nominated (which would have been an embarrassment- can anyone tell me how many sitting elected presidents in US History failed to secure their party's nomination after attempting to do so? Where are the presidential history scholars here??????), he knew his ass was sagging unpopular, and he wanted to preserve his presidential legacy, which was largely the Civil Rights Act being pushed through on his watch.
 
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