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All you Canadians and the mainstream media seem to have dismissed the possibility of election fraud very quickly.

It helps that there is a lack of evidence to support it.

Just a question: How fake was the Russian interference hoax? You didn’t discount this out of hand. Neither did the media.

And neither did the government, which concluded that it was real and not a hoax at all. There is a lot of evidence in fact. That's adifference between the two. One had lots of evidence, even from very early, and the other has very little.
Then there is the difference that the Democrats accepted the result. Clinton conceded the next day and Obama immediately started the transition. Trump even complemented him on how smooth the transition was, if I recall.

Killary Clinton is saying the election was stolen from her and calling anyone that disagrees with her, including members of her own party “Russian assets.”

She said the Russians interfered, not that the election was stolen. No voter fraud was being alleged. The number of people she has called Russian assets are very few, and I don't think any of those claims have been unwarranted. (Calling them "Russian Agents" would have been, but Clinton was more careful than that.)

She did so even though she funded the fake Steele dossier in order to cover up for her security breach with her server so she could avoid congressional oversight.

That's just a nonsense sentence.

Killary Clinton told Biden that he should never concede under any circumstances just prior to the election.

Of course she didn't. She told him not to concede early or especially the day of. This was after Trump and the GOP had announced their plan to try and win through disenfranchising voters by delaying the mail in vote and having a huge election night lead before all the votes were cast. So she was, unsurprisingly, completely right that Biden shouldn't concede on election day even if he was behind and should wait for all the votes to be counted.

Stacy Abraham’s claims she won the 2018 gubernatorial election in Georgia till this day. The main stream media supported her even though she lost by 55,000 votes.

Stacy Abrams acknowledged that she no longer had a legal path to contest the election and stopped fighting it, acknowledging that Kemp was governor.

This is from her speech after the election:

So, to be clear, this is not a speech of concession.
Concession means to acknowledge an action is right, true or proper. As a woman of conscience and faith, I cannot concede. But my assessment is that the law currently allows no further viable remedy.Now, I could certainly bring a new case to keep this one contest alive, but I don’t want to hold public office if I need to scheme my way into the post. Because the title of Governor isn’t nearly as important as our shared title.
Voters.


Then there was the interview last year where they asked her exactly what she means when she says she feels she "won" that election.

There are three things: No. 1, I legally acknowledge that Brian Kemp secured a sufficient number of votes under our existing system to become the governor of Georgia. I do not concede that the process was proper, nor do I condone that process. No. 2, I believe we won in that we transformed the electorate and achieved a dramatic increase in turnout. It was a systemic and, I think, sustainable change in the composition of the electorate and in the transformation of the narrative about Georgia and Georgia politics. Three, I have no empirical evidence that I would have achieved a higher number of votes. However, I have sufficient and I think legally sufficient doubt about the process to say that it was not a fair election.

Trump would get way less flack if he was handling this with as much class and grace as Abrams.

Al Gore, the guy that invented the internet, didn’t concede to George Bush after 37 days and the left wing media supported him.

Actually, he was under tremendous pressure to concede from various media, but you are right in that people didn't think he was being unreasonable. Of course both sides insisted the count should finish. They argued on how to conduct the recount and both acknowledged the difference was only a few hundred votes. People didn't allege voter fraud, they alleged that the count was extremely close and that the standard of judging ambiguous ballots needed to be consistent.

So why should Trump concede?

Because he lost by a lot more, there is no evidence of systemic voter fraud, he is blocking the transition from going forward, and attacking the idea of elections generally. His own lawyers say the goal is to "overturn the election" and he is now asking state governments to not wait for the courts and just throw out the votes and assign him the electors.

Funny how different situations are different.
 

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You got that right. What is he, mere 78? Still a young sap, isn't he. As long as he has a fresh diaper and maybe an extra cookie to go with his warm milk, Joe is in an excellent shape to wait out whatever nonsense the Donald throws his way.
Speaking of wearing diapers, don't you think that most republican senators wear them since 2016 because you know why ?
 

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It helps that there is a lack of evidence to support it.



And neither did the government, which concluded that it was real and not a hoax at all. There is a lot of evidence in fact. That's adifference between the two. One had lots of evidence, even from very early, and the other has very little.
Then there is the difference that the Democrats accepted the result. Clinton conceded the next day and Obama immediately started the transition. Trump even complemented him on how smooth the transition was, if I recall.



She said the Russians interfered, not that the election was stolen. No voter fraud was being alleged. The number of people she has called Russian assets are very few, and I don't think any of those claims have been unwarranted. (Calling them "Russian Agents" would have been, but Clinton was more careful than that.)



That's just a nonsense sentence.



Of course she didn't. She told him not to concede early or especially the day of. This was after Trump and the GOP had announced their plan to try and win through disenfranchising voters by delaying the mail in vote and having a huge election night lead before all the votes were cast. So she was, unsurprisingly, completely right that Biden shouldn't concede on election day even if he was behind and should wait for all the votes to be counted.



Stacy Abrams acknowledged that she no longer had a legal path to contest the election and stopped fighting it, acknowledging that Kemp was governor.

This is from her speech after the election:

So, to be clear, this is not a speech of concession.
Concession means to acknowledge an action is right, true or proper. As a woman of conscience and faith, I cannot concede. But my assessment is that the law currently allows no further viable remedy.Now, I could certainly bring a new case to keep this one contest alive, but I don’t want to hold public office if I need to scheme my way into the post. Because the title of Governor isn’t nearly as important as our shared title.
Voters.


Then there was the interview last year where they asked her exactly what she means when she says she feels she "won" that election.

There are three things: No. 1, I legally acknowledge that Brian Kemp secured a sufficient number of votes under our existing system to become the governor of Georgia. I do not concede that the process was proper, nor do I condone that process. No. 2, I believe we won in that we transformed the electorate and achieved a dramatic increase in turnout. It was a systemic and, I think, sustainable change in the composition of the electorate and in the transformation of the narrative about Georgia and Georgia politics. Three, I have no empirical evidence that I would have achieved a higher number of votes. However, I have sufficient and I think legally sufficient doubt about the process to say that it was not a fair election.

Trump would get way less flack if he was handling this with as much class and grace as Abrams.



Actually, he was under tremendous pressure to concede from various media, but you are right in that people didn't think he was being unreasonable. Of course both sides insisted the count should finish. They argued on how to conduct the recount and both acknowledged the difference was only a few hundred votes. People didn't allege voter fraud, they alleged that the count was extremely close and that the standard of judging ambiguous ballots needed to be consistent.



Because he lost by a lot more, there is no evidence of systemic voter fraud, he is blocking the transition from going forward, and attacking the idea of elections generally. His own lawyers say the goal is to "overturn the election" and he is now asking state governments to not wait for the courts and just throw out the votes and assign him the electors.

Funny how different situations are different.

Wow, Valcazar, no offense, but you seem to be an articulated incurable socialist. The worst kind.
 
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These little shit dems not only managed to rig the election, but also the international markets.

After having bought the complicity of polling firms, their fake news also anesthetized traders with their misleading ideas.

A technique called propaganda in free democratic countries!

Who's going to stop them if not Donald and Ruldoph?

Tell me, who?


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oups.....good news.....Monkey Giuliani is in quarantine.....and it will b good for him ;) ...give us a break and take a deep breath--relax........forget about Hugo Chavez ;) and the conspiracy--alternative world ;),,and calmement repeat--repeat--repeat.....the game is over...
..and don't worry you will not get fired ....your GOD-FATHER will need you after ;).
 

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oups.....good news.....Monkey Giuliani is in quarantine.....and it will b good for him ;) ...give us a break and take a deep breath--relax........forget about Hugo Chavez ;) and the conspiracy--alternative world ;),,and calmement repeat--repeat--repeat.....the game is over...
..and don't worry you will not get fired ....your GOD-FATHER will need you after ;).


Donald Trump Jr., the eldest son of President Donald Trump, has tested positive for the coronavirus, a spokesperson told The Associated Press.


Andrew Giuliani, a special assistant to President Donald Trump and the son of Rudy Giuliani, announced Friday that he had tested positive for coronavirus.
 

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Members of the Michigan state legislature's Republican leadership who met with President Donald Trump at the White House Friday afternoon said they "have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan."

The Michigan lawmakers -- who visited the White House at the invitation of the President -- didn't say anything to suggest they were going along with Trump's long-shot effort to overturn the results of the election he lost to President-elect Joe Biden.

As legislative leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michigan's electors, just as we have said throughout this election," Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey and Michigan House Speaker Lee Chatfield said in a joint statement after the meeting.

Trump is the best-known Republican, but at the same time the most corrupt.
 

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Donald's "stable genius" will always impress me. He knows how to win even when he loses. He's always one step ahead of the others. If Sleepy Joe is elected in what will be the biggest undemocratic conspiracy in history, he will be a china president. By bravely fighting to the end against the rigged electoral system (the last bulwark of the swamp and the deep state) Donald is currently working to undermine the ridiculous credibility that this pathetic dems puppet might have. So brilliant! I'm telling you: Donald won in 2016, he's still winning right now, whether you like it or not, and he will be winning again in 2021, 2022, 2023. And the year 2024 will be the most incredible triumph that the Flat Four-Cornered Earth has ever seen!!! Biden, believe me, will be the weakest and most pathetic president in history. Because the shadow of Donald and his invincible MAGA ideology will hover over him throughout his term. Sleepy Joe IS and WILL BE a very, very bad winner. A loser. SO SMART! SO DONALD! SO POISONUS! We are truly blessed to see him rewriting the rules of American democracy. The survival of the 2nd Amendment and the barely formed embryos depend on it! Even if by doing so, he betrays his presidential oath to defend and respect the constitution. Because making the constitution greater again is his divine mission. Remember: he has already said that he is the "chosen one". Sorry for you, atheist & socialist f... dems! In his great wisdom, God would never have chosen an faithless man who was almost already dead.

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Wow, Valcazar, no offense, but you seem to be an articulated incurable socialist. The worst kind.

Articulated!! Articulated!!
You take that back.
My joints don't move at all on my action figure.
 

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Donald's "stable genius" will always impress me. He knows how to win even when he loses. He's always one step ahead of the others. If Sleepy Joe is elected in what will be the biggest undemocratic conspiracy in history, he will be a china president. By bravely fighting to the end against the rigged electoral system (the last bulwark of the swamp and the deep state) Donald is currently working to undermine the ridiculous credibility that this pathetic dems puppet might have. So brilliant! I'm telling you: Donald won in 2016, he's still winning right now, whether you like it or not, and he will be winning again in 2021, 2022, 2023. And the year 2024 will be the most incredible triumph that the Flat Four-Cornered Earth has ever seen!!! Biden, believe me, will be the weakest and most pathetic president in history. Because the shadow of Donald and his invincible MAGA ideology will hover over him throughout his term. Sleepy Joe IS and WILL BE a very, very bad winner. A loser. SO SMART! SO DONALD! SO POISONUS! We are truly blessed to see him rewriting the rules of American democracy. The survival of the 2nd Amendment and the barely formed embryos depend on it!

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Hervé, with your speech you would win the first prize in a contest "The one who says the most absurdities" even I would say that you would be the only one in your category. Well done.
 

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Well the President of ZIMBABWE.....sorry sorry the EMPEROR ----after a brief exercice of self--publicity....are you surprise ???----has decided in middle of G20 SUMMET to go play golf avec sa cour ;) ......chacun ses choix;)......and f...the pandemy discussion........life is so beautifull...BUT the good thing about it is he REALLY knows soon he will not b part of such meeting.......and bon débarras.:)
 

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.....Killary Clinton is saying the election was stolen from her and calling anyone that disagrees with her, including members of her own party “Russian assets.” She did so even though she funded the fake Steele dossier in order to cover up for her security breach with her server so she could avoid congressional oversight. Killary Clinton told Biden that he should never concede under any circumstances just prior to the election. Stacy Abraham’s claims she won the 2018 gubernatorial election in Georgia till this day. The main stream media supported her even though she lost by 55,000 votes. Al Gore, the guy that invented the internet, didn’t concede to George Bush after 37 days and the left wing media supported him. So why should Trump concede?

Hungry,...and maybe 60 years later history repeats itself!
60 years ago Kennedy and the Democrats stole the election victory from Richard Nixon and the Republicans with a desperate Hail Mary by getting the help of Chicago mob boss Sam Giancana to stuff the ballots in Chicago to secure Illinois for JFK. When JFK and brother Bobby eventually double crossed the Chicago Outfit...well!!! we all know what happened when both Kennedy brothers' heads were blown off!

Btw Hungry there's a name from the past...Al Bore!...Is this loser still claiming to have coined both the words "Internet" and "Climate Change"!...LoL!
 
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Btw Hungry there's a name from the past...Al Bore!...Is this loser still claiming to have coined both the words "Internet" and "Climate Change"!...LoL!

Of course not. He never claimed that. Right wing nut jobs made that up and the press went with it because they didn't like him.
 
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