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The Nature Boy

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There is no mandate in USA TGW. None from what I heard? Here in UK it’s been told by NIH to form a bubble, but how can you monitor and enforce, lol? In countries like China there are mandates and they are being enforced. No one in USA has told you and especially under current admin you can’t have TG or Christmas, it’s on you.

If someone wanna run around without a mask, have people over for dinner and drinks whose exposure level they are not concerned with, head out to the pub and then go hug up grannie who has congestive heart failure and is on insulin, it’s on them.

I will be seeing my daughter for Christmas after isolating but won’t be able to see her for New Years.

There’s tons of escorts here in London, hot fucking escorts. Czech, Romanian, English birds. It’s me who has made the decision to stop activities, no one’s mandated me, lol. Borris didn’t tell me not to monger?

Biden’s fam has prob had the shit tested out of themselves, hopefully they have formed a fam bubble which is what USA and uk has said to form

Trumps fam didn’t do this. They would test themselves, but then go mingle with those who haven’t been tested, Chris Christie even said they were not testing everyone daily
 

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There is no mandate for the country, each individual state manages their own constituents.
 

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Each person controls their own affairs. That is a big part of the problem. You rely on people to make the right decisions and a lot aren’t.

No one is telling anyone to not have TG or Christmas, they are saying if your gonna do it, figure out who you wanna do it with and how your gonna do it safely. You are saying there’s no TG and Christmas. If you wanna do it with a ton of people, by all means, figure it out.
 
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Back to what I was saying about Biden not wearing a mask last night. Lots of people are on that stage from all different parts of the country. It’s not safe. The last thing I would want is for Biden to fall ill and have Kamala Harris run the country. That would truly be a disaster.
 

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Biden has to survive until January 2025. At that point he will be 82. The next election could send him out and we have two straight one termers. But Republicans have to do better than nominating guys like Mitt Romney and Trump. Older white guys have limited juice with the voters they need, I know McCain (old white guy) tried to balance ticket with Sarah Palin, but anyone hear her name mentioned lately? She was basically a woman with a loose screw - souped up trailer trash.
 

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TGW,
Do you think they tested all of them, or only the ones who sit in front row of President?
Hope it’s the former and not the latter
 

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Biden has to survive until January 2025. At that point he will be 82. The next election could send him out and we have two straight one termers. But Republicans have to do better than nominating guys like Mitt Romney and Trump. Older white guys have limited juice with the voters they need, I know McCain (old white guy) tried to balance ticket with Sarah Palin, but anyone hear her name mentioned lately? She was basically a woman with a loose screw - souped up trailer trash.
They guys you mentioned are republicans, lol. Trump is not. No fuckin way him and his fam is. The republicans need to take back the party. I don’t see this happening anytime soon. I think trump for the next 4 years will be a slow growing cancer. The pandemic is getting worse, Biden has his work cut out for him, he won’t get any help from trump
 

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I wish it had lasted longer.


BTW, what a wonderful temperature for a November 8th.
 

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There’s only one guy rioting and thank god it’s in lockdown




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Biden has to survive until January 2025. At that point he will be 82. The next election could send him out and we have two straight one termers. But Republicans have to do better than nominating guys like Mitt Romney and Trump. Older white guys have limited juice with the voters they need, I know McCain (old white guy) tried to balance ticket with Sarah Palin, but anyone hear her name mentioned lately? She was basically a woman with a loose screw - souped up trailer trash.
Completely agree. Republicans need to nominate someone younger, polished and possibly more on the conservative side. I see the country trying to go way to far to the left in the next few years. That's ok if your in NYC, Los Angeles, Chicago, or Portland, but the historical amount of people that came out of the woodwork to vote for Trump and more so for the Republican Party indicated to me at least that many on the right are sick and tired of this extreme left agenda. O'casio Cortez and the squad types will push Biden hard to swing to left which will further divide the country. Biden has an incredibly tough job ahead of him and I think the toughest part is going to get his party in line. Republicans will learn from this loss and increase their numbers with younger voters accordingly. Democrats knew that the way to win this election was to get their party on board with utilizing the mail in vote and it was very successful.
 
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This election is a referendum for Trump, and clearly he lost.
This election was a referendum on the Corona Virus.
Trump fucked up on it royally like most of the leaders in the world and payed the price.
If elections were to be held right now in many countries there would be a boat load of leaders that would end up exacrly like Trump because the majority fucked up, nobody expected this or was prepared for this.
What I find strange is that the world has been so lenient with China for unleashing this plague upon all of us, and I am in no way talking about the Chinese people but their corrupt government assholes that placed the same kind of value on life in the rest of the world as they do on their own people and spread this everywhere.
 

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This election was a referendum on the Corona Virus.

100%, elections get lost when the economy goes south and people are out of work. Trump wins the election if Covid does not happen. Biden essentially backed in to a win; he was a proven loser previously. While I don't think Trump handled Covid well, his failures were mostly from a rhetorical standpoint. I am 100% convinced that the medical profession lulled politicians into believing Covid was just another strain of flu, in fact I have personal proof of this which I already posted earlier in the thread, and this was months before the pandemic hit. The medical profession allowed us all to get taken by surprise and let us down, and they still haven't been able to come up with a solution. Covid was basically a bitch-slap smackdown for the entire medical profession, and perhaps much needed, although at a terrible cost. The continued posts blaming Trump alone for the Covid death toll are false, incredibly ignorant and the people posting this nonsense should be banned for posting nonsense because he should not take all or even most of the blame.

Here is the reality, 200,000 plus die in the US no matter who is or was President. If you naively believe deaths will stop because Biden was elected or has a new team, forget it. We have 50 states all with their own laws and it is up to citizens to do the right thing if they are not being locked down. Trump had no power to lock people down or order masks be worn, these are traditional state powers which nobody outside the US seems to understand. Go read the 10th amendment and get your heads out of your asses. There were no lockdowns anywhere and that was not Trump's call, because it is not his call. End of story. Here is another truth: we learned that federalism is not Covid friendly. It is what it is, we are the only nation in the world of 50 states each with their own public health laws and agendas. And the result was States banning citizens of other States from entering to some level. We still have the travel advisory in CT, 8 months later. The Sensational 6 and the other 44, although the Sensational 6 now seems down to the Sensational 4:

 
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he should get a lot of blame though. I mean it doesn’t take much to tell people to wear a mask and not ignore a public health emergency.
 
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When the Governor makes it a law that people have to wear masks, what Trump says does not mean shit.
If he tells, like really tells his supporters to wear a mask, I’m sure a lot of them would do it. No governor would ban or reprimand anyone who wears a mask? He is absolutely ignoring a public health emergency.

Everyone keeps asking how does it in Uk, we just fucking tested all of Liverpool. The program had such a response they had to increase sites today.

EB your comments on the medical community were deeply hurtful and has injured me. I wish you were standing in front of me and not behind the end of a computer terminal so I can return to you the spear that pierced my heart.
 
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he should get a lot of blame though. I mean it doesn’t take much to tell people to wear a mask and not ignore a public health emergency.
We were all told to wear a mask here in Quebec, better than that it is mandatory by law and you can get arrested and fined if you don’t wear it in all public buildings, our restaurants bars and gyms are all closed we cannot have any visitors in our homes or outside in our back yard, yet our death rate per million of population is worse than the US.
I am glad Trump is gone it is his fault. Biden will fix it.
 
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