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Womaniser

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Protests are supposed to be provocative. My understanding is that they have permits to protest outside the Christian Basilic. So long as they aren't doing anything illegal, I don't think it's a good idea to police how they protest. If we go down that road it's only a matter of time before another protest makes people feel uncomfortable and more restrictions are put in place.

You can't ban prayer while also standing up for free speech. I personally dislike religion in general, but it's part of the cost of free speech.

For your information, they absolutely didn't have permit for those prayers.
Why didn't they pray in front of their mosque if it is not provocative actions ? For what purpose ?
You should know that some muslims fanatics want canada to become a muslim country !
 
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For your information, they absolutely didn't have permit for those prayers.
Why didn't they pray in front of their mosque if it is not provocative actions ? For what purpose ?
You should know that some muslims fanatics want canada to become a muslim country !
According to this CBC article they did have permits - https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/art...im-group-says-quebecs-move-targets-community/


"The move comes amid simmering tension in Quebec over Muslim prayers taking place as part of pro-Palestinian demonstrations, including in front of the Notre-Dame Basilica of Montreal.

In December, the CAQ expressed unease with people praying in public.

Brown says when it comes to pro-Palestinian demonstrators, organizers have permits to allow them to use the space.

“What are we going to start doing in Quebec? Mandating that you get your messaging approved by the government before you’re given a permit to go protest?”



Seems like they have the permits but if they don't, remove them for loitering and/or public nuisance. No need for a prayer ban.

They chose that spot because it's getting attention. That's kind of the purpose of a protest. "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

I'm not too concerned if some Muslims want Canada to become a Muslim country. Some people want Canada to bring back "Christian values" with daily Lords prayer in schools and bible study. Some people (myself included) would love for religion to be a thing of the past that we all ask "How the fuck were people falling for this shit?". But what I definitely don't want is the government telling us what we can say or how we can say it. The rights that allow these people to pray in public also give me the rights to tell them that they're fucking idiots (not that I do that, but I could).
 
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There is still a lot of shit going on in the US on the streets.
Very few cities are safe to walk around in after dark so they still have a very long way to go.
Would you walk the streets of Chicago or Detroit at night lol. You can certainly walk the streets of Budapest or Warsaw 24hrs without incident unlike most Western European cities or British ones and this is where Montreal is heading Toronto is almost there now.
This is a separate issue that is not directly related to the topic. US always had enough domestically grown criminals. I am talking about disgusting visuals that you see in Canada but not anymore in the US cities. I just happen to have an opposite mentality to these people. They are disgusted by half-naked women on the streets while I am by the demonstratively tribal collective prayers. The prayer is an attempt to communicate with God and is an intimate individual act if sincere.
 
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But for the obvious reason afraid. Which is the point
It's not fear that prevents me from going there and calling them idiots for praying to sky-daddy. I have nothing to gain from doing so and I don't really care that they're doing it. The only harm they're doing is making some people uncomfortable or angry.

Doesn't seem like the fear factor is working though, seeing as there's often (always?) a counter protest.

I watched some of Rebel New's coverage of the counter protest. I generally avoid RN, but they seem like one of the few outlets that bother covering the counter protest. I get the feeling that even if they weren't praying, people would come up with some other reason why a group of Muslims shouldn't be allowed to protest. Maybe it'll be "Look at what they're wearing. That's not part of our culture. We need to ban that." The sad truth is that a group of Muslims are going to make some people uncomfortable no matter what they do or how they do it.
 

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Pro Hamas protestors are threatening to disrupt this weekend's Grand Prix Cycliste pro cycling races in Quebec (Friday) and Montreal (Sunday). Similar pro Hamas radicals have already disrupted the ongoing Tour of Spain and forced the organizers to change the route of the race a couple times.

The races in QC and Montreal are particularly vulnerable to disruption because they are both circuit races whose routes make multiple laps of a city circuit. Pro cyclists traveling at very high speeds on city roads are extremely vulnerable and protestors could cause serious injuries to them. They have already caused a serious injury to one rider during the Tour of Spain, forcing him to retire from the race.

Montreal will host the week-long World Cycling Championships in September, 2026, so the city must demonstrate that it can manage the safety of the riders in Sunday's GPC.

 

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Pro Hamas protestors are threatening to disrupt this weekend's Grand Prix Cycliste
In 30’s before WWII there were rallies in NYC and Montreal for the support of Nazis. Several years later many of the same people were dying in trenches fighting Nazis. When Hamas or similar will show its ugly head in Canada the mood will change...


 
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When Hamas or similar will show its ugly head in Canada the mood will change...

Hamas is already in Montreal and elsewhere in Canada in the form of the closely related Muslim Brotherhood, which is banned in several Muslim countries but not Canada.



The Ikhwan (Arabic for "brethren") must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers (Muslims) so that it is eliminated and God's religion (Islam) is made victorious over all other religions"

This disturbing excerpt formed part of a 1991 strategic memo that outlined the Muslim Brotherhood's plans to conquer North America. It was produced as evidence in the Holy Land Foundation case, the largest terror-financing trial in U.S. history.

A recent report from the Institute for the Study of Global Antisemitism and Policy (ISGAP), an American think tank, offers insights into the Muslim Brotherhood's alleged deep-rooted presence and influence across Canada's civil, academic, political and financial spheres.

According to the report, Canada has become "a hub for Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated organizations that are exerting significant influence in Canadian civil society, academia, politics and government." Many of them have received millions of dollars in funding from the Canadian government, despite "verified ties to extremist entities, including Hamas." Canadian organizations referenced in the ISGAP report have denied the allegations.

The allegations in the report seem to confirm that the Muslim Brotherhood's "sabotage strategy" is clandestinely materializing in Canada.

The Muslim Brotherhood is a transnational Sunni Islamist movement that's committed to creating a global caliphate based on the principles of Shariah law. It is widely considered to be the most influential and largest Islamist group in modern history.

A shadowy and far-reaching network, it is quietly bolstered by powerful state actors, such as Qatar and Turkey. The Brotherhood engages in both violent and non-violent forms of jihad to achieve its ultimate aim of Islamist supremacy, a goal clearly articulated by its Egyptian founder Hassan al Banna, who stated: "It is the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated, to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet."

A virulent antisemite and fervent admirer of Adolf Hitler, al-Banna's pathological revulsion for the West, Israel and Jews was perhaps second only to fellow Brotherhood ideologue Sayyid Qutb. Considered the "intellectual father of modern-day jihad," Qutb's radical writings provided the ideological foundation for the Salafi jihadist movement, inspiring al-Qaida leaders Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, and spawning terrorist groups like Hamas and ISIS.


In her book, The Secret Apparatus: The Muslim Brotherhood's Industry of Death, Cynthia Farahat, an Egyptian-American counterterrorism expert, contends that the Muslim Brotherhood is "the world's incubator of modern Islamic terrorism" and "the world's most dangerous militant cult."

Although the Brotherhood officially renounced violence in the 1970s, its actions and support for terrorist groups render its declarations hollow. After Hamas was created in 1987 to capitalize on the first intifada, the Brotherhood's international leadership directed its global branches to support the terrorist group. In 2021, Brotherhood members congratulated the Taliban following the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan.

According to Gilles Kepel, a leading scholar on the Middle East and Islam in the West, the term "Islamophobia" was first popularized by the Brotherhood as a way to delegitimize criticism of its Islamist ideology by equating it with antisemitism. This deceptive comparison, Kepel asserts, enables the Muslim Brotherhood to claim moral high ground through perceived victimhood and to redirect that sentiment against Israel and Zionism.


A recently leaked French government report provided the most detailed official study to date of the Brotherhood's modus operandi and its presence in Europe. Its findings were direct and ominous: the Brotherhood seeks to achieve its religio-political goal of gradual societal transformation; it has plans to conquer not just France, but the entire western world. These findings also reflect those of a 2015 U.K. government investigative report.

The ISGAP report's findings about the Brotherhood's alleged extensive network across Canada should come as no surprise. This country is the ideal host for the parasitic Islamist group, thanks to a permissive environment created by a fragile national identity, wokeism, multiculturalism, vote-bank politics and unchecked immigration.

Just as in Europe and the U.K., the report suggests the Brotherhood has built an extensive ideological infrastructure in Canada in the form of charities, schools and mosques - a strategy that enables it to infiltrate civil society and influence policy-making under the guise of religious and educational activities.


Testifying before a 2015 Senate committee hearing on national security, Marc Lebuis, director of Point de Bascule an organization that tracks jihadist movements in Canada stated that a senior Muslim Brotherhood leader in Canada encouraged Muslims to take up influential positions in the government and justice system and stop applying legal provisions that are incompatible with sharia law.

With the threat of Islamist terror attacks intensifying worldwide on account of the Middle East conflict, efforts to curb the group's nefarious activities are gathering steam. In April, Jordan banned the Brotherhood, becoming the latest Arab country to do so after Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates.

Austria remains the only western country to have banned the group. But plans to designate it as a terrorist organization in the U.S. are picking up steam, and a Belgian member of the European Parliament recently called for an investigation into the group. French President Emmanuel Macron has also started to crack down on the Brotherhood's influence in France, following the leak of his government's review of the group.

Canada must follow suit. The increasingly menacing nature of the pro-Hamas protests, the 670 per cent increase in antisemitism, the rising youth radicalization and the 488 per cent increase in terrorism charges are indicators of the Brotherhood's successful efforts to penetrate and manipulate Canadian society and institutions.

Its Islamist ideology promotes visceral hatred and rejects liberal democratic values. When Brotherhood-linked groups gain legitimacy within western societies, they perpetuate a corrosive world view that undermines social cohesion and foments division and radicalization.

Moreover, the group's insidious and covert operations pose an active national security threat and significantly raises the risk of cross-border terrorism that can further hurt Canada-U.S. relations.


However, banning the Brotherhood alone will not curb the threat. To effectively curtail its influence, authorities must cut public funding to affiliated groups, prosecute those who commit crimes, blacklist front groups used for terror-financing and expose the Brotherhood's revolting views on women, LGBT people, Jews and democratic values.

The Liberals must take the ISGAP report seriously and develop an "elbows up" approach to quell the Muslim Brotherhood's "grand jihad" plans for Canada.

National Post Joe Adam George is a national security analyst at the Institute and Canada research lead for Islamist threats at the Middle East Forum. Dagny Pawlak is a senior communications officer at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute.
 
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