Providers Reaching Out “Off the Clock”

[snowplow]

Hi Community,

I have seen a provider several times in the last month as I enjoy her company and because we seem to get along extremely welll.

The last time we saw each other she wanted me to stay longer than but I could not. She’s been texting me regularly just to say hello and we usually end up having an hour long conversation via text.

What should I make of this? It appears genuine and she does not ask for anything in return. I actually want to see her again because I really do enjoy her company.

All advice welcome!

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

She has fallen for you, take this as a blessing.... Set up a dinner date and after awhile introduce her to your family... All is good.

 

[Meta not Meta]

You enjoy each other's company? Love beckons, perhaps?

Stay a little guarded, but just go with it for now ... why not?

 

[Anong]

I think the BEST advise from STN in post #2. I would comply!

 

[EagerBeaver]

If it's an indy this is not at all uncommon, in fact many of the indies I have seen through the years have texted me or emailed me albeit sometimes it's for legal advice, and sometimes it's basically like what I would call friendliness and being social as a way of marketing. It's just good business, and not unlike contacting good clients periodically as in any business, which is Marketing 101.

For agency girls, this would be very uncommon unless they are about to go Indy, then its quite common.

I would distinguish between an Indy seeing someone as a good client and an Indy seeing someone as boyfriend material. Too often guys read the former as the latter. It's due to ego and pride. Just remember what Uncle Ving said about pride:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruhFmBrl4GM

Listen to Uncle Ving at all times!

 

[snowplow]

Thanks everyone. She is an Indy, and has let me know she “likes” me. Am I a good customer? I think so, but the time she spends chatting with me is beyond marketing... contacting me twice a day recently and not asking for anything in return... maybe she’s just lonely for the holidays?

 

[No_Church_InThe_Wild]

Hey snowplow, seems like she likes you which is not uncommon working girls are like everybody else with feelings no?Its an ego boost for you aswell knowing that she might have fallen for you .
Are you perhaps contemplating dating her?If so things can change pretty quickly and then you end up loosing what was a perfect Sp/client relationship.I myself whould not try to pursue this since this dynamic seems to be working well for you so why risk messing it up and complicate things unnecessarily.But that’s just me

In the end it’s for you to decide...

Ps Keep in mind that it usually is the norm for Indy’s to do that from time to time but of course not to the degree that you described.

 

[hungry101]

This is less common in Montreal but it does happen. Treat it like you would with any other flirtatious acquaintance. In developing nations such as Brazil, this is a very common occurrence. I think that some of the girls are looking for a guy to change their station in life. This is always interesting for me. It usually leads to photos and texts and an occasional phone call via whatsapp. It is just not convenient for me because I just don''t get there enough so after a few months the texts stop. Within 6-9 months the girls have a new # and they disappear. That's good. I'm in no position to see anyone like this exclusively.

 

[jalimon]

The first 2 years in this hobby absolutely no girl ever extend or text me or anything...

In the past 2 years I completely change my attitude with girl and I ended up having a dozen girl I regularly text/snapchat/twitter... Even 2 that retired. I have been off the clock to lunch/dinner/coffee quite a few times with girls.

None of them have fallen for me. Actually I think it's exactly because of that. They truly see that I am in no way interested in girlfriend so I am not annoying to them. At first they do it for retention. They want to see me back. I play the game and I do see them back.
When they retire I find it really cool they still contact me. Like Patron wrote do not read much into it... Just enjoy it!

Cheers,

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Absolutely nothing, other than she thinks you are a good client and wants to hang on to you.

I'd like to know what you are basing this on. I'd say absolutely nothing, or have you been a fly on the wall watching each of their moves.

Unless you have knowledge of this "relationship," you're probably better off shutting up. I sure do hate when people seem to have absolute knowledge of something they know nothing of.

 

[jalimon]

What's the point of that? I dislike it when SPs do this.

Text/talk/lunch/dinner, I have friends for that.

IMO, if we're not gonna fuck, why are we talking?

Because I am a lousy lover and need to find other meanings to get the girl into me?

Or because the fuck is so much better once she knows you better?

Cheers,

 

[IamNY]

If she wants to see you off the clock then you need to get her on the cock. Strike while the iron is hot if the spirit moves you.

 

[EagerBeaver]

If she wants to see you off the clock then you need to get her on the cock.

Did you mean “get her on the clock” or “get her on your cock”? Either would make sense. Was not sure which you meant.

 

[hungry101]

Unless you have knowledge of this "relationship," you're probably better off shutting up. I sure do hate when people seem to have absolute knowledge of something they know nothing of.

You're probably correct but the OP said any opinion is welcome so I think we gave our opinions based on personal experiences. If we did not, this thread would be empty. In fact, several would be empty.

Snowplow - only you know what the girl is up to. Why don't you ask her out for a cup of coffee or maybe to meet for a cocktail? If she accepts than maybe she does have designs on you. Take it from there.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Snowplow - only you know what the girl is up to. Why don't you ask her out for a cup of coffee or maybe to meet for a cocktail? If she accepts than maybe she does have designs on you. Take it from there.

I think that rolls the dice in an unnecessarily aggressive way, that goes back to the Uncle Ving warning on pride. Pride and ego would be the only conceivable reasons to ask her such questions. He can have sex with her if he books her. If he seeks a freebie, then he runs the risk that she will see him as wanting a freebie and then totally back off, thus fucking up the provider-client relationship. He should probably just roll with it. Any other course of action is pride fucking with him. And you know what the man said about that.

https://youtu.be/ruhFmBrl4GM

I do recall a guy who got banned by some escorts because he contacted them off the clock for "social meetings" and he also tried to "save them" out of this business, as if they needed "saving" by him of all people, LOL.

 

[hungry101]

I think that rolls the dice in an unnecessarily aggressive way,
I do recall a guy who got banned by some escorts because he contacted them off the clock for "social meetings" and he also tried to "save them".

What? If someone frequently contact me off the clock and we had great conversations via text and I thought she was being flirtatious, I would ask her out for a NSA cup of coffee or something. It is the logical next step. If she is not interested, she won't go. If she sees you only as a friend, then she will go and you will talk as friends. It is a process. At some point if there is mutual chemistry, the relationship will advance.

How would this turn into a ban? That's laughable. If it did, then fine. I'll see one of the other thousands of escorts available now or in the future. I carry several currencies with me when I travel and I have a line of credit. I don't want to brag, but the women find this irresistible.

 

[EagerBeaver]

What? If someone frequently contact me off the clock and we had great conversations via text and I thought she was being flirtatious, I would ask her out for a NSA cup of coffee or something. It is the logical next step. If she is not interested, she won't go. If she sees you only as a friend, then she will go and you will talk as friends. It is a process. At some point if there is mutual chemistry, the relationship will advance.

How would this turn into a ban? That's laughable. If it did, then fine. I'll see one of the other thousands of escorts available now or in the future. I carry several currencies with me when I travel and I have a line of credit. I don't want to brag, but the women find this irresistible.

hungry101 you are way off on this. You are accepting his spin on this as fact, but we don't have her perspective on it. She may not see her behavior as flirtatious as he does. She may see it as something different- business related or perhaps there is some other agenda in her behavior that has nothing to do with romantic intentions towards him. If he suddenly asks her out she suddenly sees him as a guy looking for a freebie. She is an escort, she has sex for money. Helllo!!!!!!!! Hell-fucking-looooo!!!!!! You are unable to separate the rules for civilian women in our lives from the rules governing women you see professionally for sexual favors. One should not be confused with the other.

It is straight out foolish for him to do anything other than roll with it and see where it goes. There is no need to push other buttons except for reasons of pride, or ego, and those are not good reasons to have an "experiment" that could backfire into a ban or a simple desire to not see him as a client.

 

[heliragedeleted]

Or because the fuck is so much better once she knows you better?

Cheers,

And that says it all for me. I’ve had many girls text me off the clock, taken quite a few out for diner, lunch off the clock.
I almost always come back for more. The better I get to know her, the better the pleasure, the more insurance and the greater the confidence. It’s just a great business tactic . It works well on me and they know it!
Just don’t go introducing your family to her. That would be a turn off.

 

[hungry101]

Believe it or not, escorts see people socially too. I have seen a few myself. You're right. I don't know if he is misinterpreting signals from her. If you can text back and forth for hours, you can suggest meeting for coffee or a drink. She has sex for money...so what? So do I.

Is this guy some social retard that has never had a girlfriend or a wife? Is he some socially backward, social misfit that has made MERB his life and lacks the social skills to relate to the opposite sex unless it is for pay? I don't know. If he is a social misfit than what you said above definitely applies.

It is rare for me but there have been a few occasions I have met girls off the clock in Montreal. Like I had said before, the opportunity presents itself more in Brazil but I rarely take advantage. I prefer the professional relationship but on rare occasions it is fun to meet off the clock if the opportunity presents itself.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Picture me as Morpheus ( Matrix )

What if I told you there was no SP, this was some bored person who with his third post in 6 years had nothing better to do than get a chuckle. Just a hunch, I have my reason.