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Random thoughts: What’s on your mind lately? Part 2
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It's gonna be a very hot day! Stay hydrated whatever you doing!
I will be following both of your advice. No panties and a lot of water
So hot!
For today, no panties no sock and only a white t-shirt is allowed!
I want a photo!
Yes sure. Text my paid phone number and I’ll send it
I still don’t understand how fucking women is considered a hobby by some of you
Earlier today I wanted to revive your thread about ''why merb has a bad reputation among escorts'' and I chickened out. I think there should be more mature and respectful conversations about attitudes & behaviours hobbyists have that are really not good for providers, and bad for other clients
Why having sex cannot be considered a hobby?
It's not necessarily the expression but the attitude.. on our side what escorts call a hobbyist is someone who frequently sees providers and act like we're collector's items, tries to find girls who offer the most for the least, tries to see new girls all the time, knows all the tricks in the book to get freebies and lowball, reviews a lot and uses reviews in a demeaning and manipulative way, shares info and gossips behind the scenes, brags about getting dates and free time and services, tries to create drama and starts rumors, think every single client is like them etc etc.
if you google ''sex work hobbyist'' there is a vice article that comes up, it is really unflattering and made me want to throw my phone out the window when i first read it. it's disgusting
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I guess having sex definitely can be a hobby, if everyone involves considers it a hobby. For instance in the kink scene people view what they are doing as ''play'' etc. Some people also really enjoy casual sex in a consensual way.. Some couples like to try new things sexually for fun.
Yes I am consenting when I am getting paid by a client, but this is not a hobby for me, it's my job. I would say the same thing to a pick up artist who uses all kind of manipulation tactics to have sex with the most women possible. The clients described in my comment above that a lot of escorts call ''hobbyists'' are difficult clients and hard to please. We fear getting bad reviews and we know even if it's good something very explicit & very intimate details will be said about us online. They are usually the one who push for BB or push for services we don't offer and make pressure online to normalize certain things like demanding PSE services from GFE providers or not having to pay for social time.
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Getting hung up over a word is ridiculous “ Hobby “ . It doesn’t define the person at all it is just a word.
I don’t consider seeing an SP a hobby, golf is. for me it is a pleasure to see the ladies I see who are friends and have made my life much better every time I see them and there are other ladies I would never go near under any circumstances.
Simple rule is to treat everyone the way you would like to be treated by them.
There are good and bad people of every colour and race.
There are many people of my own ethnic background that I would never associate with and there are many that are close friends.
I don’t consider seeing an SP a hobby, golf is. for me it is a pleasure to see the ladies I see who are friends and have made my life much better every time I see them and there are other ladies I would never go near under any circumstances.
Simple rule is to treat everyone the way you would like to be treated by them.
There are good and bad people of every colour and race.
There are many people of my own ethnic background that I would never associate with and there are many that are close friends.
Difficult hobbyists are what we call slobbyists.
They are not true hobbyists
They are not true hobbyists
But how do you know how difficult other hobbyists you encounter online truly are? Some guys just like seeing escorts and write cute reviews about them online, that's fine.
Love those guys.But take a look at the review section and I know you have. You'll see guys shitting all over a girl because she got her period during an encounter, someone rating a provider's body 0 on 10.. a bunch of people trying to guess someone's age in the most horrible way possible, graphic details, almost sharing someone's home address, accusations that someone is high, etc.
Some members of this board have asked me for BB, carrot dangled bookings, tried to low ball, asked to do drugs with me, pressured for greek and PSE, and so on. You don't see this because it's happening in DM's or over text.. How can you identify who you interact with who's a ''slobbyist'' vs a hobbyist?
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In this industry, it is difficult to gauge...
Everything is all over the place ..
Nothing is black and white...
It is not set in stone unfortunately...
We can't generalize.
It is good thing for a provider to ask for referral or additional screenings, but it is not bulletproof..
Those are indeed slobbyists, once you identify the red flags, you share the most with fellow providers, so they can avoid those slobbyists. Hopefully, they can share infos with you as well about other slobbyists.
Personally I find it pretty easy to identify the red flags, I'm more talking about for you as a client, how can you tell that someone is a honest lover of escorts and someone who is a slobbyist.. because it makes a difference in who you can trust for info. We know clients DM each other and there are probably a lot of lies and rumors that naive guys believe, from malicious clients.. Or personal details that should remain private are shared, and it's dangerous.
Same thing with reviews. How do you know who you can trust? You saw how for instance some guy completely made up a story about me saying my professional photos are unedited. (what I actually told him is that my photographer didn't hide my tattoos and i wanted clients to know i had them) This is nothing compared to some horrible shit I see all the time in the review section.. Some clients have ''notoriety'' because they have been around for a while and post a lot of reviews, but there's no way of knowing if they are really trustworthy.
There is no way to know really.
Usually, i go with people who have the same taste as mine.
And yes, there are malicious clients, someone totally stabbed me in the back, and he created bad rumours about me, i thought the dude was a decent guy, i was very naive to think so, but i found the hard way he wasn't, hmm the dark thoughts that came to my mind once i figured out who it was, all of sudden , i had a very short fuse. Let's just say for a moment I wanted to become Tommy Devito from Goodfellas Or Alejandro Gillick from Sicario.
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I'm sorry that happened. I smiled at your references hehe but yeah, that sucks. I think these clients are not looking out for other guys either. I can see how a malicious client would give false information to a guy who's new, which is why I advise new clients to ask questions to honest providers. That's why @LC18 has threads here too.
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