Recession vs. Hourly rate for sexual services. Your opinion...

[daidí siúcra]

Hello dear Merbites,

Some time ago I wanted to share this question with you who are consumers of the pleasures of the flesh. As the wonderful world of commercial sex is a business, I was wondering how you see the future in terms of prices for these delicious services. The constant increase in rates has far exceeded the indexation rates that have been going down over the last few years and with our purchasing power decreasing I wanted to consult your crystal ball: Will the rates for escorts go down, stabilize or even increase?

On the verge of a recession, I don't see the supply decreasing, on the contrary. The demand will at best be constant but I think it will decrease as clients have less money in their pockets. So what will happen to rates? Will we have "weekly specials"? 2 for 1"? Fidelity cards would be a nice touch...

Thank you for your feedback

In the meantime, I am saving up for a few hours of luxury that will cost the equivalent of a tax specialist's hourly rate (A good one!)

SD

 

[purpman]

Fidelity cards? Oh i am always a sucker for them….
… No wait not in that way!

 

[goondog]

I hope the prices come down. 250$ is getting expensive and with the price of everything else , will people still have money for the hobby ?
we will see

 

[Bobby_]

I’m not the most experienced here, but I think there will always be women who charge more and some less. But of course the « ethical » choice will always be more pricey.. recession is not gonna help women who are already poor so I assume there always have been price differences and will always be! I wonder also if the trade become legal or decriminalized if itll affect the price (i could see it going both ways)

 

[Krazyirish]

Hello dear Merbites,

Some time ago I wanted to share this question with you who are consumers of the pleasures of the flesh. As the wonderful world of commercial sex is a business, I was wondering how you see the future in terms of prices for these delicious services. The constant increase in rates has far exceeded the indexation rates that have been going down over the last few years and with our purchasing power decreasing I wanted to consult your crystal ball: Will the rates for escorts go down, stabilize or even increase?

On the verge of a recession, I don't see the supply decreasing, on the contrary. The demand will at best be constant but I think it will decrease as clients have less money in their pockets. So what will happen to rates? Will we have "weekly specials"? 2 for 1"? Fidelity cards would be a nice touch...

Thank you for your feedback

In the meantime, I am saving up for a few hours of luxury that will cost the equivalent of a tax specialist's hourly rate (A good one!)

SD

some indy have kind of a fidelity card. Some advertise on their website 'Client that i have meet more than 2 time during/before 2022 are charge the old price instead of the new one.

 

[starcraft1]

It would be very interesting to have a veteran from here who can tell us about how the industry reacted during 2009-2010 when the economic crisis began. It can give us an idea on where we are heading to.

 

[cpp433]

Prices will NEVER go down, they arent going to go back to 220 or less, id expect them to stay at 240/250 for awhile tho as they just went up to that at the end of lockdowns, i believe the prices dont shoot up is the overhead for the biz is little to nothing, a phone, a pussy, and a tank of gas and your good to go

 

[CLOUD 500]

Prices will keep on going up due to politicians obsession with increasing the population. Justin Castro has a mass immigration policy and he wants to bring in 500,000 immigrants each year not including asylum seekers. That significantly increases demand hence the same for sexual services. It is what we see nowadays, same amount of sex workers but the amount of clients increased significantly thus prices will keep on going up. Covid mandates causes rapid inflation but price increases will slow down since covid mandates are gone.

 

[What's My Name]

some indy have kind of a fidelity card. Some advertise on their website 'Client that i have meet more than 2 time during/before 2022 are charge the old price instead of the new one.

That does not last long....at one point you will be charged the new rates or never hear from her again. I only say it because it has happened to me many times.

 

[Anong]

The prices will never go down, so we need to learn how to keep our Dick down. In that regards I am thinking to save some money to buy the companion Dill.
Though problem is that how to hide from my wife. As I have no access to any secret closet. This is my dilemma, how to find cheaper sex service.
But there is no substitute of warm breath, deep French kisses and weak trembling legs after the exhaustion. So will maintain the states quo and work hard to buy the company of lovely ladies.
Always, there are all range of prices, so I do not see any problem of pussy inflation.

 

[Mandouke]

Here is an interesting thought on the underground economy and a few questions to go with it regarding the legalization of the escort and sex industry and how it potentially could influence the going rate for an escort.

When the government decriminalized and legalized marijuana in Canada did the price of marijuana increase or decrease? Did the quality of the product or service improve? Are underground dealers (non-government) still in business? If so, why?

If the government were to legalize and decriminalize the escort and sex industry would the price of an escort increase or decrease? Would the quality of services provided, increase or decrease? What would happen to the people who make money other than the service provider in this industry?

Food for thought on a very interesting economic and policy question.

 

[Mandouke]

Prices would increase and services would decrease.

Some of the worst places in the world to buy sex have legalization and/or full decriminalization. The legal rural Nevada brothels are terrible. Escorts in Vegas are a million times better. Curaçao was so awful it finally went away. The Netherlands is awful, and so is New Zealand.

Everywhere in Southern Europe us better than the Netherlands and Australia (the independent escorts) is better than New Zealand.

Full, unavoidable taxes, lack of privacy, and regulations are a killer to this industry. The government has no place here.

Pricing brings up a pet peeve of mine. Fucking entitled retired people. They are all over the German FKK threads on ISG. So pissed that their pensions don’t cover the unanticipated increase from 50 to 100 euros for most services. If they are fit enough to fuck, they are fit enough to work. Get a little sign by the bed that says Will Work for Sex. And look at it when the alarm rings for the new part time job.

Isn‘t this all how it is supposed to work? Independent contractors play with a price that ends up working for them. The price ends up varying a lot among the providers. The more repeat business you give someone, the better deal you get. If you pay far less than the median price, you take risks. Often big ones. That is how it works with housing and even cars. Live in a shitty neighborhood, you are more likely to get robbed. Drive a shitty car, you are in more danger in a wreck. Even food. Eat tge dollar value meal at McDonalds every day and you have a shorter life expectancy.

The escorts who charge more, relatively speaking, give a better and certainly safer, experience than the bottom of the barrel ladies. If your pay keeps up, you just spend your inflation-adjusted wage increases proportionately on them, just like you do with food and shelter. If a John’s pay doesn’t keep up, he either needs to start earning more (including a part-time job if retired), seeing escorts less, shift spending from something else to escorts, or take risks by finding the pearl among the oysters at the lower end.

Arguably escorts should raise their prices by $5 or $10 every year, instead of in larger increments every few years, to avoid giving the impression that prices don’t go up.

Very interesting point about government involvement in taboo industries. It is precisely why I brought up the issue, throwing the cat among the pigeons as it were.

Prior to the legalization of marijuana in Canada, I asked a pot dealer I know how this would affect him and his business. His response was classic and spoke volumes about government regulation in general.

He said that when the government steps into an unregulated market to capture it, they always fuck up. He said that dealers would provide a much more superior quality product at a much lower price than the government. By the way, he is still in business and business is good.

 

[Anna Bijou]

... the overhead for the biz is little to nothing, a phone, a pussy, and a tank of gas and your good to go

I mean, that really varies. If you host out of your residence, your overhead is going to be very different than if you rent a separate incall... Rents have exploded over the past few years. I was considering moving but decided I'd stay put for now because it's ridiculous. Advertising is not cheap either.

 

[Flyingby]

Why would rates go down? This is luxury spending
luxury good sales have gone up

you might get some more cheap ass LL girls pop up. But that’s about the only place you’ll save money

 

[Sic92]

I wouldn't have any problem with paying a bit more every year if the quality of the girls was somewhat the same. But nowadays,it's really difficult to stumble on good deals on sites like LL are no longer good. You spend a lot of time browsing and hoping to find something decent but for the most part it became like finding a needle in a haystack. It results to disappointment and terrible returns on investments.

Where have the good and afforable ladies gone ?

 

[Marsouin]

Prices will probably never go down..at most they stabilize.
The Sex Work industry is a pure free market... Supply vs Demand vs What are you willing to pay.

If you want to help stabilizing the prices ... use this more often.

 

[AlmostMidaged]

I wouldn't have any problem with paying a bit more every year if the quality of the girls was somewhat the same. But nowadays,it's really difficult to stumble on good deals on sites like LL are no longer good. You spend a lot of time browsing and hoping to find something decent but for the most part it became like finding a needle in a haystack. It results to disappointment and terrible returns on investments.

Where have the good and afforable ladies gone ?

What do you consider a good lady?
What do you consider an affordable lady?

I wonder if there’s less Indy ads on announce sites than 2-3 years ago?

 

[Krazyirish]

Prices will probably never go down..at most they stabilize.
The Sex Work industry is a pure free market... Supply vs Demand vs What are you willing to pay.

If you want to help stabilizing the prices ... use this more often.
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Dont forget the fleshlight with the shoe on the floors. Atleast you can practice for when you see her.

 

[RobertNYC]

A discussion about pricing is always a slippery slope. Patron raised a cogent point about how agencies have a stabilizing effect on pricing, especially in big escort hobbying markets such as Montreal. Imagine the Indy rates if agencies didn’t exist.

A little context here: I was paying about $350-450 at the now defunct Aphrodite Companions in NYC back in 2013. AC was probably the most popular mid-tier NYC agency during that period.

$350-$450 is still the going rate in NYC and NNJ now, but I think the complaints and grievances today at those same rates have more to do with a regression in quality. I may be paying the same, perhaps a little more, but I’m getting so much less. This is true in Montreal as well, unfortunately.

Rates are not coming down even in the midst of a recession. No way. It’s difficult for agencies to find good, pretty and reliable talent these days. Recruitment is challenging for a plethora of reasons. Lowering rates doesn’t help recruitment. And agencies aren’t taking the hit by giving up their %. If the average rate in Montreal is now $240, $250, if anything I think you might see an upward adjustment in the near future with slightly smaller rosters. The fact Montreal (and NNJ for that matter) has fewer newer escorts populating agency rosters is very telling.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Prices would increase and services would decrease.

Some of the worst places in the world to buy sex have legalization and/or full decriminalization. The legal rural Nevada brothels are terrible. Escorts in Vegas are a million times better. Curaçao was so awful it finally went away. The Netherlands is awful, and so is New Zealand.

Everywhere in Southern Europe us better than the Netherlands and Australia (the independent escorts) is better than New Zealand.

Full, unavoidable taxes, lack of privacy, and regulations are a killer to this industry. The government has no place here.

Pricing brings up a pet peeve of mine. Fucking entitled retired people. They are all over the German FKK threads on ISG. So pissed that their pensions don’t cover the unanticipated increase from 50 to 100 euros for most services. If they are fit enough to fuck, they are fit enough to work. Get a little sign by the bed that says Will Work for Sex. And look at it when the alarm rings for the new part time job.

Isn‘t this all how it is supposed to work? Independent contractors play with a price that ends up working for them. The price ends up varying a lot among the providers. The more repeat business you give someone, the better deal you get. If you pay far less than the median price, you take risks. Often big ones. That is how it works with housing and even cars. Live in a shitty neighborhood, you are more likely to get robbed. Drive a shitty car, you are in more danger in a wreck. Even food. Eat tge dollar value meal at McDonalds every day and you have a shorter life expectancy.

The escorts who charge more, relatively speaking, give a better and certainly safer, experience than the bottom of the barrel ladies. If your pay keeps up, you just spend your inflation-adjusted wage increases proportionately on them, just like you do with food and shelter. If a John’s pay doesn’t keep up, he either needs to start earning more (including a part-time job if retired), seeing escorts less, shift spending from something else to escorts, or take risks by finding the pearl among the oysters at the lower end.

Arguably escorts should raise their prices by $5 or $10 every year, instead of in larger increments every few years, to avoid giving the impression that prices don’t go up.

Like I always said, the government ruins it all. This is proof of this. The best system is an unregulated industry, those system provide the best prices for best quality. One can see how things work in South America and even some places in Europe. Government always wants to put rules and collect their cut with taxes. That causes prices to go up and quality to go down. In Germany they got the CBJ rule. But on the other end of the spectrum like in the US strict prohibition is even worse. Prices are high and the girls are too afraid to discuss what services are offered due to the fear of undercover police. About legal prostitution, in Australia we see how high the prices are I think more higher then US prices. What has a stabilization effect on prices is it is unregulated, whether the country is poor/low cost of living, and if there are agencies. My two cents.