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Refusing an Outcall SP

nsssk11

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So i ordered an SP from a well known agency on the forums
The pictures were accurate but looked a lot better on the website. They were shot in a way that made her look different if you know what i mean.
Anyways when she arrives, im really surprised and tell her i refuse. She insists to come in and use the phone. I told her i would pay her 20$ for the trouble and that she should leave. She gets the booker on the line and he yells at me to give her the full price. So i didnt want any trouble and i liked another girl from the same agency so i gave her the money and told her to give a massage.

Was i manipulated?, Am I allowed to refuse the SP?
 

Merlot

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Am I allowed to refuse the SP?

Sir,

Any time you wish to, and for any reason. If you don't mind paying the fee for a massage that's your choice. But don't ever let any lady or owner try to push you around like that. The most I ever paid was $40 for a refusal, and that was only because I made a mistake about how much money I had on hand and had to turn away a totally stunning woman. I gave $20 for the driver and $20 for her waste of time. No more.

good luck,

Merlot
 

snoodle

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I think your too picky, you should have just taken the service instead of causing trouble ;)
 

Halloween Mike

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It is the rights of both a client and an SP to refuse.... you even gave up the 20$ driver fee, wich is expected if that happen. Maybe some people could push it a bit at 40$ but paying the full price... I mean, here you where kinda force to take her(who would pay full price to turn the girl over???) and the chemistry was already pretty much scrapped from the start.I imagine the feeling... Sorry girl, your not my type, here 20 bucks... bye. And then... ok ok, seem like i have no choice... ok ill fuck you then... that could be so awkward... you just took the massage but still...

I think in that situation its VERY important you give us all the details, what agency it was, wich girl... to protect potential customers from that. I mean, we all knowns pics usually look better, so it aint a scoop, but sometimes they are A LOT looking better than the actual girl(photoshop magic) , but its really the way they handle it that is unnaceptable. The girls should had take the 20$, walk away... But then even the booker yelling at you... lack of class. So please give details. Hell you eve saw the girl, even if it was just for a massage, you can make a full review thread.

I got to admit you may had fear for your safety if you called at your home... but yeah you where pretty much tricked and manipulated there...
 

Gentle

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I'd say no worry.

Pictures accurate but a lot better ?
It happened to me once. She was really looking like her pics but somewhow 'she was different'.

It's basically the image we have in mind which creates some kind of expectation.

If you stick with the hobby, you'll see that the best ones (which you'll remember all your life) will probably be what I call the 'surprise girls'.
The ones you didn't have too much expectation from yet, somehow the chemistry was a lot stronger than the attraction you had for 'her look'.

As for being yelled at on the phone...?
I'd say next time, (specially if it's a well known agency here on Merb) just tell them you'll report whatever BS they yelled at you on Merb while keeping cool.

TC
 

nsssk11

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It is the other knock at the door you should be concerned about. Sometime it can get very unpleasant.
ya thats what i wanted to avoid

also i really wanted to see another girl from the same agency another time and i didnt want to get banned or something
 

CLOUD 500

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If everything needs to be 100% perfect for you, join a dating website, stop calling hookers.

I do not get your logic :confused: When I pay it best be exactly what I want and she better be in top shape with no belly. When it is free my love is open to all. When I date a normal girl I will accept something different and does not have to be top in looks.
 

Gentle

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also i really wanted to see another girl from the same agency another time and i didnt want to get banned or something

Yeah well that makes sense.

Get to see this girl you want and then come back on these boards to tell everyone who the MF is :lol:
It should help everyone to keep it cool for a while.
 

Bean

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I agree with cloud 500. I'm paying for the girl in the pic or better. And since there are a lot of girls for the same price that are worth every penny why should the client suffer Unless your only paying 140-160 then you kinda roll the dice and get what you get
 

Halloween Mike

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Hell, I feel like coming over and bitch slapping you myself.

When you pay 200+ $, you have rights to be picky... I mean... i received girls a couple time that where not as expected, i was expecting much better but they where still decent looking and i kept them, because i didn't want to loose the room price, or go the trouble of finding another, one even turned out to be one of the best fuck i had... but still when you "choose" you want the "best for you" at your personal taste. So if the guy call at his home, he don't have to loose the hotel or such.

As for the "other knock at the door" it shouldn't happen for a refusal to take a girl, its even stated here in the "rules" that both can take or refuse a client. And i think if the guy already yell at you, not sure he would like you to call again, and i sure wouldn't call again, no matter if the girl is tremendously hot.
 

BadChap

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Is this unfortunate event something that should be reported to the Mod, especially if the agency is a MERB supporter?
 
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Lily from Montreal

Of course you have no obligation ,actually it goes both way, but I have just a tiny bit of malaise for the phrasing...you "ordered" a girl...yikes...she is not a pizza...which is my standard answer when a guy asks "if I can be there in 20 min..." Yes it is a transaction but we are not a product...careful guys...
 

Red Paul

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So i didnt want any trouble and i liked another girl from the same agency so i gave her the money and told her to give a massage.

How do you know this other girl looks like her photo? If the agency fooled you once, don't bother staying in their good graces. Most likely they'll just dick you over again.
 

Halloween Mike

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Lily : True that it shound a bit harsh if you take it this way... but again the term could be use to describe an hair cutter(whats the name for coiffeuse in english?) coming home, or even a maid, but i understand it can look a bit like you said with the pizza thing... Not sure of the english value exactly, but when i talk to my friend i saw a girl in montreal, in french i always tell them "jme suis payer ste fille la" (and i show pic on the website) or even "jme suis commander une escortes" , thats not in an unrespectfull way, its just a way of speaking.

Jnuts : Yeah we pretty much know that, but sometimes the difference is not that big, when on some other times the pictures are VERY different even tough its the same girl. For exemple girl has taken a bunch of weight, or she is covered with tatoos(they usually hide them) could even be she changed her hair color. Or sometimes boobs look way bigger on the pics when in fact it was a photo "trix" combined with a paded bra...

Also its not because you like longer appointement than 1 hours customers are shit... Maybe you have a desk job and do a good ammount of money, good for you, but for exemple me, i save $ during weeks, sometimes months to see 1 girl, cause i don't have a big pay the big bucks job, but im not made of wood and i have my need, so i use this service, but when i choose a girl, its a long screener process trust me.. i check reviews, pics, even ask the booker sometimes on some stuff. I want the same girl i saw on the pics, at least for what was showed. And when it comes to face, wich is normally hided, sometimes if the girl dosen't please the customer on that point, its hard to have a good meeting, and its not like he had a bunch of choice for face pics.
 
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Lily from Montreal

You are right of course, it does depend of the goal, mine being a bit different , I am not looking for a release per se, as like I always says, I am looking for ''friends with benefits'', I get the benefits,we both get the friendship...

Mike,it is hairdresser or some call themselves hair stylist...those are the equivalent of the 300$ an hour sp, loll more money for the same service but with a label lol
 

Halloween Mike

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I see your point, but its i guest very difference since you are an escort yourself(so an attractive girl). Personally i know the girl deep down just want the money and thats why she do it with me. Sure if it was horrible for her, she would simply refuse me(wich so far haven't happened) but i know for exemple once she leave, thats it... i won't see this girl outside the business, i can't call her to go watch a movie with me or else... I don't pay to have a friend, i pay to have sex... :p
 

CLOUD 500

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Exactly. Most of the sex workers hate the clients. They hate what they do cuz it is being done for the money. It is very difficult for a women to get intimate and give herself to a complete stranger that she has no feelings for or does not care at all about. So yes when the money is gone so is the candy. BTW-- A lot of sex workers call their regular clients a friend. It is a term used by sex workers to label a regular client. Kind of like the we call a prostitute a companion or an escort.

To me a friend with benefits is one who I have sex with for free, regularly keep in touch by phone, and chill together. Cannot label a strictly business relation as that.
 

CLOUD 500

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I mean, hate is a pretty strong word. I'm shure some do, but most of them hate their clients?

I have had some personal relations with strippers, have friends who decided to strip and the one thing they all had in common was a genuine dislike or disgust of the clients. These girls got nothing good to say about the clients. But they are not going to show it to you after all they are there to make money off you. Part of their work is to act and a lot of them are very good at it.
 
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