Review rating system

[Fradi]

Let everyone describe their own experiences their way.
A bunch of stars or lack of is not going to mean much.
In time you learn to trust a few reviewers and are able to read between the lines, the rest you take with a grain of salt and are good for a laugh.

 

[2fast2slow]

@Lionelmessi I understand your suggestion and basically agree because it is very time consuming reading all the reviews (I should know lol).

But there is also the constraints of the site host Xenforo, dont think it is technically possible (someone correct me if im wrong)

 

[Lunaseraphim]

So what if it's time consuming reading reviews? A rating system is even more vague and subjective than a review. A lot of reviews are short and sweet. You don't have to read the entire review if it's too long, just skip over the parts that are useless to you and that's it. I'm really against the idea of a rating system.. we're human beings.

 

[Jordd]

In addition to reviews, I wonder if it would be technically possible to have a star rating system to accompany the review because unless you start reading each review for an SP it’s hard to know the general impression first glance
whereas if every time you wrote a review you could include a star rating from 0 to 5 which would add up like you can see in Google review well at least you could already have a general idea of how many reviews are positive and how many aren’t.
It’s just in order to have some form of unified rating system for everyone

Great idea! Would make things much more simple and efficient.

 

[Jordd]

Actually, the contribution of different viewpoints made me rethink my suggestion to something more specific.

with every review, it would be required to answer Yes or No to the question “Repeat ?”

The answers would be tallied, so at a glance, you’d know from the reviews how many people would repeat the experience and how many wouldn’t.

That would give a general idea of what the reviews convey. Simple, clear, and instantly useful.

I like the 5 star rating better

 

[Jordd]

It's just fucking lazy, and removes both nuance and particular salient points that may be of value to a person reading the review. If I was only reading how many stars and repeat/not repeat I would abandon this board entirely as being utterly useless except as a limited social outlet. The details are what make the review, and if you can't take the effort to invest 3 minutes in writing a review then you have no business making one, and if you're too lazy to read them then you have absolutely no business complaining about any aspect of whatever encounter you have going forward. what the hell does 3 or 4 stars even mean? Or do you now have to start breaking down stars for each part of the encounter? How is that different than the number scale system that everyone sneers at? If you have to do that, and collate them all, then you might just as well read the reviews. I hate the trend that equates user friendliness with the utter absence of information, service or contact with a human (in general, not just for mongering) and the need to be instantly gratified in 3 seconds or less. Learning about people is not the same as learning about a blender on Amazon. Take the time to read the reviews. It's not more efficient to have a star summary. It's a trap.

Every ffuckin place has 5 star ratings. Amazon, Google, etc. It doesn’t mean I dont read the reviews. Believe me, when I’m interested in something, I always read the reviews. The star rating is just another marker. And it allows to have an average, for example, when you have thousands of reviews.
Would definitely apply here. It’s basic statistics.

 

[urquell]

Every ffuckin place has 5 star ratings. Amazon, Google, etc. It doesn’t mean I dont read the reviews. Believe me, when I’m interested in something, I always read the reviews. The star rating is just another marker. And it allows to have an average, for example, when you have thousands of reviews.
Would definitely apply here. It’s basic statistics.

It would apply here if you had a large enough number to be representative for a valid statistical model, but you don't. The number of reviewers here is so small that any review has a extraordinarily positive or adverse effect on the "average". Unlike Amazon where you have hundreds or thousands of reviews where you can build a general and somewhat reliable consensus here you have a number that may even be as low as single digits, which isn't large enough to be statistically relevant. On top of that, we're all aware of the bias that tends to crop up in reviews here, and the lack of candor and honesty that's prevalent. If all you had to do is click stars and not actually do a review it would be even easier to game the system and monger perceptions than it is now, as least for the less experienced.

 

[neverbored]

There's another site that uses star ratings. Over the years, its become horrible. The 5 stars will often be low review count. flooded with girls that haven't been active in years.

The onest that are active end up being in a sea of 3-4 stars with a few below.

I think that's just due to how different tastes impact judgement. Some guys prefer bigger girls, some guys prefer petite girls. Some guys are racist. They should cancel eachother out, but instead will give an average score. Averages without context have a tendency to break the meaning I think.

Also, add the shilling effect and whatever other drama, it could indeed make some reviews disapear from their natural placement.

I think the only way it can be reliable, is If there was a way for each user to fill out some kind of survey to establish their baseline and the scores they see scale based on it. Your 1-3 is my 7-10, then anyone you rate as such would show up higher for me kind of thing.

So ya, it helps to read the reviews, you get an idea of why they rated what they rated and you make up your opinion... dunno, this has been discussed so many times, still never seen a system that would work.

I wish there was a way to filter out anything older than a month and just see who's actually actively reviewed. There won't be that many left to read.

 

[Lionelmessi]

I wish there was a way to filter out anything older than a month and just see who's actually actively reviewed. There won't be that many left to read.

Or just filter the reviews. For example, I randomly picked a name from the top of the review board:
Rebecca @ Vogue WOW!!
The title sounds promising and the thread is 4 pages with 73 messages. But actually 85% of those messages aren’t reviews. Only 11 are actual reviews with one user posting both a positive and a négatives one, so we’re really talking about 10 unique reviewers: 7 positive, 4 negative. It would be incredibly useful to jump straight to those 11 reviews and get the key info at a glance.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Or just filter the reviews. For example, I randomly picked a name from the top of the review board:
Rebecca @ Vogue WOW!!
The title sounds promising and the thread is 4 pages with 73 messages. But actually 85% of those messages aren’t reviews. Only 11 are actual reviews with one user posting both a positive and a négatives one, so we’re really talking about 10 unique reviewers: 7 positive, 4 negative. It would be incredibly useful to jump straight to those 11 reviews and get the key info at a glance.

That is something I agree with, there is a lot of filler on review threads. I get irrelevant messages removed on my own review thread personally because it's not ''neat''. When people have long review threads it makes it seem like they have more reviews and it gives them more visibility.. But personally I don't want to attract any negative attention.

I just want to remind everyone of one thing tho.. The vast majority of clients don't leave reviews, and most reviews are written about providers who work for agencies. I've never asked anyone for a review directly but clients know I welcome them because it brings business, even if I'm personally on the fence about the idea of reviewing providers. (Many of us, myself included, feel like we have to work with reviews, even if we never asked for that system)

A rating system would honestly make me and many other providers want to opt out entirely.. And honestly even less clients would feel comfortable writing reviews in my opinion, a lot of clients told me in person that they read reviews, but they just check to see if the SP is real and want to avoid anything else. Like the person says above, you can write about your experience with someone but you can't give them ''points'' because it's so subjective. Not everyone has the same beauty ideals, expectations, etc.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I think that's just due to how different tastes impact judgement. Some guys prefer bigger girls, some guys prefer petite girls. Some guys are racist. They should cancel eachother out, but instead will give an average score. Averages without context have a tendency to break the meaning I think.

This, specifically. A lot of reviewers here seem to assume that every client has the same preferences and expectations as they do, but that's not the case. Some things that a client complains about could be something another wouldn't care about, or would actually prefer.

 

[hob12]

If you're gonna throw 270-300$ at meeting someone, you can invest 20minutes into reading a review thread.

 

[LC18]

If you're gonna throw 270-300$ at meeting someone, you can invest 20minutes into reading a review thread.

This!

 

[User_9]

This, specifically. A lot of reviewers here seem to assume that every client has the same preferences and expectations as they do, but that's not the case. Some things that a client complains about could be something another wouldn't care about, or would actually prefer.

Also YMMV on the providers end. Nobody really knows who will get what and for what price behind closed doors because there are no legal obligations to do so. This is the case with just about every massage provider review on this board.

 

[LC18]

Also YMMV on the providers end. Nobody really knows who will get what and for what price behind closed doors because there are no legal obligations to do so. This is the case with just about every massage provider review on this board.

A 5 for me could quickly be a 1 for someone else because they were just plain annoying and the SP didn’t like him

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Also YMMV on the providers end. Nobody really knows who will get what and for what price behind closed doors because there are no legal obligations to do so. This is the case with just about every massage provider review on this board.

You have to read between the lines. After a whole year of spending time on this board, I've realized that really often reviews are biased beyond personal preference. As I said before, there's a story behind each review, particularly the negative ones. It's possible that a provider was a complete asshole to the client but most of us want to maintain a good reputation.

The things clients complain about in reviews are almost always the same. "She looks fatter/older in person" "face in provider's face is unattractive" "her p*ssy smells" etc. they're often what I call hitting below the belt because clients who haven't seen her can't know if it's true or not from her ads and photos

 

[Lunaseraphim]

A 5 for me could quickly be a 1 for someone else because they were just plain annoying and the SP didn’t like him

It could be a 1 because he's pushy or had bad hygiene and the client didn't like that he couldn't get away with something

 

[sg8181]

The people who want a system for this are the ones who believe that what they find attractive is a universal standard for what men, as a whole, find attractive even though reviews prove them wrong every day. Everything other than the facts is taste and chemistry. I read reviews for the facts (pics real, location safe, prices/services match the ad) not to see your 7.8/10 rating for nipple colour.

 

[Lionelmessi]

A 5 for me could quickly be a 1 for someone else because they were just plain annoying and the SP didn’t like him

Saying that a 5 for you could be a 1 for someone else, raises another issue which is telling the difference between a factual issue and a personality clash.

A solution could be to add a “helpful / not helpful” button to reviews.
it wouldnt rate the SPs but allow merbites to highlight the reviews that provide useful info. At the same time could also be used to pinpoint reviews that are not credible.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Saying that a 5 for you could be a 1 for someone else, raises another issue which is telling the difference between a factual issue and a personality clash.

A solution could be to add a “helpful / not helpful” button to reviews.
it wouldnt rate the SPs but allow merbites to highlight the reviews that provide useful info. At the same time could also be used to pinpoint reviews that are not credible.

That sounds really complicated, and there's no way for "merbites" to know for sure what info is useful/objective or not.