Since I’ve stopped complaining…

[Gazoo64]

This is most likely not directed to clients but rather to other escorts.

Many clients aren’t on Twitter but many escorts are. If you look at the followers list, most of them are other sex workers so really they’re trying to impress them and not clients .

I have said the same thing about designer brands etc. most men don’t know the difference between a Aldo shoe and a Louboutin

Just a side note. This thread started about you not complaining anymore, and now we’re the ones complaining (or b!tching). lol!

As you can tell, I think most guys hate the bitching on Twitter, and even more the “showing off” of fancy gifts and dinners!

I agree with previous comments, it’s a major turnoff, regardless if it’s directed at other SPs or clients!

 

[LC18]

Is the message, “look I received this nice gift”, so if you don’t buy me one as well, you’re a loser. Sorry, maybe I am being paranoid!

I am sorry that you feel like you not sending gifts to women would be badly seen.

I think most of us appreciate our clients whether they send gifts or not. Some of them book very often and it’s just as good, if not more than a gift (so long as their company is enjoyable).

Please, do not see the gifting part of our marketing as a way to make you feel bad for not partaking.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Many clients aren’t on Twitter but many escorts are. If you look at the followers list, most of them are other sex workers so really they’re trying to impress them and not clients .

Many are, proof is a lot here know what I’m talking about. But I agree, they sure are also trying to impress their coworkers, competition is never fair away.

 

[LC18]

Just like you (general you) might ask for discounts or other favours, we might ask for gifts because if you don’t ask you won’t know right?

If you do not wish to gift escorts anything because you don’t want to or because you cannot afford to, it’s totally fine and you can still be one of their favourite client.

A gift that costs nothing and is very low effort is to like, comment and retweet their content. (If you have a secret Twitter)

 

[Gazoo64]

Thats a major turn off for me, as well as the almost inevitable pics of their latest night out at the fanciest restaurant(not necessarily the best). It has reached a point where, I see it as a ridiculously cheesy way to pressure clients to socially date them, in a competive way. Of course, this is just my very personal opinion.

Ughh, yes the infamous pics of last night’s fancy dinner!!

First off, the client took them to a fancy restaurant and had a nice dinner. Great! It’s between the 2 of you! I hope you had a great time!

Second, do I really need to see detailed pics of your 5-course meal, and do I really care?!?

What’s the message? This client was amazing and all clients should do the same?? Or a way to pressure more clients to take them on those long 4 or 5-hour social/intimate dates?

It’s fine that some clients want to do that, to each their own. But IMO, no need to advertise it to everyone!

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Social media has created a generation of egocentric, narcissistic monsters

I dont know if it has created it but it sure did give them the perfect opportunity to get out, shamelessly in the open, as if it was the norm to act and be so.

 

[LC18]

First off, the client took them to a fancy restaurant and had a nice dinner. Great! It’s between the 2 of you! I hope you had a great time!

You might be surprised but some men actually ask us to take photos and post them. I don’t know why though.

I have a client who always takes a lot of photos of me and what we do and tell me to post them. I don’t really do that because I’m a very private person. I keep my dinner date photos for my personal social media.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

It’s fine that some clients want to do that, to each their own. But IMO, no need to advertise it to everyone!

I understand a bit about that kind of photos, they are posted on social media after all and are seen as content. The secret is balance, though. There isn't on some accounts. It might be a way to show that they are part of the successful ones? I'm only thinking out loud.

But as Lena said, I see these posts, subconsciously, directed to other providers. It was fun at the beginning since SWs all over the world could now mingle and exchange important information, our screening in Canada evolved because of this. But I feel Twitter is now only gift posts or « clients shouldn't tell or say this or that », and « this colour looks so good on you my love! »

I wanted to stop using it because of that, everything feels silly or useless. But I'll just do my own thing.

 

[Gazoo64]

Just like you (general you) might ask for discounts or other favours, we might ask for gifts because if you don’t ask you won’t know right?

If you do not wish to gift escorts anything because you don’t want to or because you cannot afford to, it’s totally fine and you can still be one of their favourite client.

A gift that costs nothing and is very low effort is to like, comment and retweet their content. (If you have a secret Twitter)

Ok, I agree. Maybe some of our messages didn’t come across properly!

I do buy a gift sometimes for my ATF, and she really appreciates it. But she never asked for anything. It’s a sign that I appreciate seeing her and it makes me feel good to give her a gift!

I guess we don don’t like when some women openly ask for gifts on Twitter. I’m all for them putting a wish list on their web site. And if a client wants to buy a gift, then he’ll have an idea what to buy.

I guess we don’t like when they insinuate on Twitter that they want a gift. And then take a picture of the gift to show off. You say it’s to impress their colleagues, I take it more that it’s a message to other clients. In either case, it’s a turnoff for me.

I’m all for clients buying gifts and the ladies liking to receive gifts, which shows that they’re appreciated.

I guess it’s how they go about it that we disagree. We’ll agree to disagree on the “how they go about it”!!

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

@LC18

obviously you are not that kind of sw, your extended comments and activity here, on merb, has proven that. But you cannot be so blinded by your kindness and common sense not to acknowledge that these girls are doing this with intentions. But I do understand it is not in your interest to say or admit anything that could jeopardize your relationship with your coworkers.

 

[AirBo]

I have a client who always takes a lot of photos of me and what we do and tell me to post them.

Probably a rhetorical question but with your phone I hope?

I can't picture you being reckless

Edit: Ah! maybe not nudes... just everyday pictures... I get it

 

[LC18]

@LC18

obviously you are not that kind of sw, your extended comments and activity here, on merb, has proven that. But you cannot be so blinded by your kindness and common sense not to acknowledge that these girls are doing this with intentions. But I do understand it is not in your interest to say or admit anything that could jeopardize your relationship with your coworkers.

It’s marketing, of course we want clients to see it but I believe if it was just about the clients, there would be staged photos on their website as well.

I remember a few years ago seeing an escort who had a photoshoot at the airport and on a fake private jet for her website.

It’s a way to market FMTY dates. Dinner dates photos and gifts are the same.

I believe and you are totally allowed to think so, that you guys find it tacky. You see it as showing off and being spoiled.

*general “you” as per usual

 

[LC18]

Probably a rhetorical question but with your phone I hope?

I can't picture you being reckless

Edit: Ah! maybe not nudes... just everyday pictures... I get it

Always with my phone. If I send him some of the photos, I blur my face before I do so.

 

[AirBo]

*general “you” as per usual

Just like you (general you)

I'm sorry Lena! LOL

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Just like you (general you) might ask for discounts or other favours, we might ask for gifts because if you don’t ask you won’t know right?

We all know that these kind of requests (discounts and favors) are of the utmost despicable by SWs, to the point where some won’t hesitate to black list such clients and spread the word to their friends. Are we supposed to do the same to the « begging » SWs?

this is not your best one!
No harms done though

 

[LC18]

Are we supposed to do the same to the « begging » SWs?

You could. You’re free to spend your money wherever you want and to see someone that meets your criteria.

I don’t think my comparison is bad because I have coworkers that don’t mind being asked for discounts. There’s a lady in Vancouver area who has a punch card.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

It’s marketing, of course we want clients to see it but I believe if it was just about the clients, there would be staged photos on their website as well.

Amen, and I think this is what is hurting us, reptilian John’s, where, we are so focused on our own little egos that, we never want to be reminded, one way or another, how this entire fantasy world is in reality, plain and basic transactions.

Damn this thread has derailed big time! Lmao

 

[Giselle Montreal]

But, about the gifts. With social media, business and marketing have changed a lot. Some girls offer a selfie every day if not more often on Twitter! It's a lot of unpaid work and free content. Selfies and social media were not a thing when I began in this industry. Advertising was easy. But you guys said it in another thread, selfies are what you like... It might bring more business, but there are a lot of guys simply enjoying the free samples every day. Even if it's a marketing choice the girl made, the tip, or a token of appreciation, is somewhat understandable in that case. But when begging is all you have to say on your page, it's another thing.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

There’s a lady in Vancouver area who has a punch card.

That is so funny!

 

[LC18]

I have a hard time liking or wanting to engage with my peers that use the words “I need” when it comes to gifts.

You can ask all the gifts you want but there’s a way.

Lady no 1: “I need a Chanel purse. Who will buy it for me?”

Lady no 2: “Ive always wanted this Chanel purse. Adding it to my wishlist”

Lady no 3: “What a beautiful purse! Having one would be a dream come true.”


If I had money to spend, I would be more inclined to buy a purse for lady no 2 and 3

How do you guys feel? Or does it make no difference at all?