SP flirting in their ads

[chowzilla]

Obviously most of the girls on BP are mostly bullshitting you

Spend some time in heaven
Will have you craving for more
Your dream come true
The best in Montreal
I will make you feel like a king
I'm sensual and passionate
Bla bla bla

They aren't looking for quality but quantity in $$$
So they figure "if I can lure enough chumps/noobies and give them shitty service, I can make quick money fast and I know they won't come back"

I also learned how to read between the BS in some of the merb threads... Such as a girl having only 1 page of reviews and they are all good, tells me that most people don't like her and don't want to review her. And probably the reviews came from people who are very open minded.

 

[Jamesrenard44]

Here's what I found funny in LA vie est drôlement faite, ce sont les demoiselles qui viennent défendre leur position sont celles qui en fait n'ont rien à se reprocher, au contraire... Peut-être pcq elles sont tout simplement plus en mesure d'expliquer leur point de vue

Soyons honnête un instant, je sais que ce que l'ont promouvois ici, c'est la beauté, la complicité et les performances sexuelles. Y a absolument rien de mal la dedans.

Ce que je tentais de faire ressortir, bien maladroitement je le conçoit, c'est que plusieurs annonce essaie de vendre notamment un plus grand rêve ou encore un aspect de nouveauté qui n'est pas. Je m'explique. Peu importe le site, le type d'annonceur, quand je vois des annonces où on essaie de faire croire au possible client (désolé, je crois définitivement à la notion de client et fournisseur de services, le voir autrement est de mettre des lunettes roses à mon avis) qu'on s'ennuie de lui, qu'on essaie de lui faire croire à une nouveauté (nouvelle photo, nouvelle fille ds une agence mais qui travailler avant soit dans une autre agence ou comme indépendante). Je le sais bien que c'est du marketing, mais je trouve que c'est du marketing cheap.

Personnellement, j'ai été attiré vers celle qui s'assume, qui est fière de son passé et qui ne s'en cache pas, qui ne va pas annoncé pour rien dire.

En fait l'exemple qui a soulevé cette question est le fameux selfie. Pourquoi faire croire à un client potentiel que l'on lui propose une nouvelle publicité, une opportunité de voir la demoiselle sous un nouvel angle, sous un angle qui pourrait nous faire flechir vers une rencontre, mais qu'en réalité, qu'il s'agisse d'un cliché qui date de plusieurs semaines, voir plusieurs mois. On parle pas d'une séance de photographie avec un ou une professionnelle, on parle d'un selfie publier à l'initiative du ou de la fournisseur de services.

Je trouve plate que certaines personnes croient que ce soit le seul moyen de se démarquer de compétions. Pcq foncièrement, je crois que oui, la majorité d'entre nous vont aller voir, mais à force de crier au loup, combien n'iront pas voir lorsque ça en voudra vraiment la peine, je ne sais pas...

Amber, Tianna, Maria, (je suis désolé si j'en oublie), vous n'étiez définitivement pas les personnes visées par cette question mais j'apprécie énormément votre point de vue qui a fait évoluer le mien.

Sorry, it was too hard to do this explanation in English.. I was too worried about not being understood correctly

 

[smuler]

Ah-ha! I have a fetish nun's outfit, would that work?

This one I have to see !!

You can wear it when we go to lunch..

Maybe we won't have to stand in line, or maybe we get a preferred parking spot :lol:

Best Regards
Smuler

 

[Lolapablo]

Never rely on that. They just want to sell their "products"

 

[SensualFlight]

Like most of you in this thread, I don't care about the "marketing ad-ons" found in some girls' or agencies' ads. However, there is ONE thing that would keep me away for sure:

You will remember me forever.

When I read this, I stay far Far FAR away from the girl. I heard stories in the past about girls considering men so badly, they wouldn't care working with STD's. In know it's a minority, but it's a risk I will never take.

Don't take me wrong: I'm obviously not talking about the lovely indys who are active here!

SF

 

[Halloween Mike]

Here is my points of view.

First of all the notion of "NEW"

How many time a girl can be "new"? Obviously it goes over her first day, or even her first week. But i feel after a month, its kinda pushing the "new in the business" motto a little bit. I sometimes see girls listed as new even when its been 3 months there in an agency??? I guess the feeling of novelty is different from guy to guy, but for me pushing a month is not new anymore.

Descriptions in Advertising and/or "flirting"

Personally a blank ads for an indy won't even lure me at all, no matter how good the picture are. I need a little bit of presentation. For agencies its different, as the agency usually have a reputation that comes with it. Then even tough on merb the providers are limited, i must say i love when on the website the services are listed clearly. I know some guys will ask anyway about it (some dudes seem to not be able to read) but when its clearly listed personally i know what to expect and it gives me a confidence. I dunno for you but asking on the phone, even on text, for a sexual service shy the hell out of me ... lol. Maybe it should not but it does... in person its even worst. So i prefer if the indy clearly says what she do and do not, or get the info right away with the agency booker so as when the girl arrive she knows and i know what to expect. It also make me fantasize before the meeting on what will happen and all. Honestly merb's change of policy since that damned c-36 law has been a real pain in the butt for me, altough i do understand in a way why they decided to do this. Im still trying to figure why we have not come up with a code system yet, like an official one as GFE mean BBBj + Kissing + Daty. Maybe a GFE+, GFE++ or whatever for different services... LOL anyway

As for being flirty or whatever, obviously the provider is marketing herself, she have to make you believe you will have the time of your life. She may actually genuily try to do this as well, even if in some case it may not happen. Lets be honest, if an ad would say :

My Name is Jenn, i am an escort, here are my stats, call me.

Wouldn't you think this is unapeiling? Obviously i want something to turn me on, to make me think its gonna be awesome and so on.

As for Backpage, i do look once in a while out of curiosity, but i never jumped the shark over there and gamble a meeting. I dunno... I only see a girl every 2 or 3 months, for me it must be a great event, so i want to put all the chances on my side and go the secure route. Unless a provider would be intensively reviewed on merb despite only advertising on BP, then i won't risk seeing her, even if her picture look great. I mean, even with a video as i see some providers use nowadays, even with face pics or face show in video, who knows if its really gonna be her when the door open? I seen stories as much recently as less than 3 weeks ago of another provider opening the door, being the roomate or whatever... To book on BP ... yup a big combo of face pics, well reviewed, interesting ad, and a beauty that really is off the hook for me to go that route. Im a merb guy.. and i doubt i will ever be "bored" of merb, i don't come often enough to MTL for that.

So thats it for me, excuse my mistakes, as i write this i am very tired and barely can see, and combine with english i probably made some big spelling, grammar, or typo errors. LOL

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Ah-ha! I have a fetish nun's outfit, would that work?

Now you tell me.

 

[Maria Divina]

Jamesrenard44:

Oh, ne t'inquiètes surtout pas, je ne me sentais pas du tout visée en quoi que ce soit.
Je n'ai que voulu savoir c'était quoi au juste le "flirt" dont tu parlais, et cela m'échappe encore.
C'est pour cela que je t'ai invité à écrire un exemple d'annonce qui te semblerait parfaite et qui respecterait le "no-flirt"

Écrire une présentation qui soit différente et personnelle, sans utiliser tous les clichés existants, est beaucoup moins facile qu'il n'y parait.
Je mets au défi tous les "hobbystes" de s'y essayer, et d'écrire une annonce de bon goût et qui respecte les règles. Bonne chance messieurs. :lol:

ps: avoir un exemple de "flirt" serait tellement pratique. Désolée de ne pas comprendre exactement ce que toi tu voulais dire.

 

[Thor Jr]

Here is my points of view.



As for being flirty or whatever, obviously the provider is marketing herself, she have to make you believe you will have the time of your life. She may actually genuily try to do this as well, even if in some case it may not happen. Lets be honest, if an ad would say :

My Name is Jenn, i am an escort, here are my stats, call me.

Wouldn't you think this is unapeiling? Obviously i want something to turn me on, to make me think its gonna be awesome and so on.

Well HM, i am in agreement with most of your post, but this particular part of it is, sometimes, less is better, a short ad like the one described, you know she is not blowing smoke up your ass, no bullshit and curiosity killed the cat, it makes you wonder about her services and maybe you will contact her for information, now, this is called first contact, the initiative to what could become the encounter.

So, i would rather have an honest and no bullshit ad then to read about, what you will do to me and how much i wont want to ever see another woman again.

All and all HM , i agree with what you have written, well said.

Thor Jr

 

[Doggyluver]

When it comes to marketing, different strokes for different folks. Everyone has a hot button and some ads will appeal to some guys and turn off others. The smart girls will have several different ads using different language in an attempt to lure as many guys as possible. The only thing I have a problem with in the many ads I have perused over the years is the repetition. Some of the SP's advertising use the same ads on annonces123, BP, annonces intime etc etc etc. Same wording day after day, same services blah blah. Change it up when you type your ad, use different language, softer, more forceful etc. The flirt for me often comes when I text a girl and she replies, if done properly it is a small tease and done in a totally appropriate was, not slutty, just enough to hint, "Wouldn't you like to see me and experience me ?

When flirting in a low key way it can be extremely appealing

 

[Jamesrenard44]

Perfect ad

Hi, my name is Marie. I'm 24 years old. I've been in this business for quite some time now and . I invite you to consult my website about the service that I provide and I also invite you to look at my reviews that you can find here.

I'm usually available in the evenings but I suggest you contact me 48hrs in advance to avoid any disappointements.

I'm looking forward to have great encounters with great gentlemans.

I'll post some selfies one in a while so stay tuned!

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So basically, the idea is to say the truth and be good about it. But that's me. I don't see the point to say that I'm going to have the time of my life, everyone's saying that. For the sats, regardless of what's written, I can figure it out from the pictures and it's written on your website; If you're looking for big tits, regardless of the fact that the ad is saying DD, if they don't look, buyers won't buy it. As for the selfies, I wanna post new ones, do it, if you wanna post old ones, do it; just don't lie about it.

As it been said before, the flirt happens when you actually contact the lady. It's still bullsshit let's be honest, but at least, you can have that genuine feeling that she's nice and that beside the money, she might do her best that you'll enjoy the time that you'll spend with her.

 

[AmberRose]

Perfect ad

Hi, my name is Marie. I'm 24 years old. I've been in this business for quite some time now and . I invite you to consult my website about the service that I provide and I also invite you to look at my reviews that you can find here.

I'm usually available in the evenings but I suggest you contact me 48hrs in advance to avoid any disappointements.

I'm looking forward to have great encounters with great gentlemans.

I'll post some selfies one in a while so stay tuned!

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So basically, the idea is to say the truth and be good about it. But that's me. I don't see the point to say that I'm going to have the time of my life, everyone's saying that. For the sats, regardless of what's written, I can figure it out from the pictures and it's written on your website; If you're looking for big tits, regardless of the fact that the ad is saying DD, if they don't look, buyers won't buy it. As for the selfies, I wanna post new ones, do it, if you wanna post old ones, do it; just don't lie about it.

As it been said before, the flirt happens when you actually contact the lady. It's still bullsshit let's be honest, but at least, you can have that genuine feeling that she's nice and that beside the money, she might do her best that you'll enjoy the time that you'll spend with her.

I get what you're saying, but an ad like that has zero personality or character to it. While straightforward, it's cold and sounds like the gal is applying for a regular job. Not so enticing, but then again as mentioned, different strokes for different folks I suppose

 

[lgna69xxx]

Yup, totally agree with Amber here, give me flirty anyday over a boring scripted ad.

This "hobby" (hate that word) is supposed to be fun so let it be. As long as it is backed up, flirt away ladies!

I get what you're saying, but an ad like that has zero personality or character to it. While straightforward, it's cold and sounds like the gal is applying for a regular job. Not so enticing, but then again as mentioned, different strokes for different folks I suppose

 

[jalimon]

Personnaly I look at the pics and then the basic stats (especially the height as without choes I am 5'6 and three quarters, no 5'10 girl for me...) and then if both seem fine I read the add/website. And then, an add on sites like backpage, hump, etc.. has very little to no value compared to indy companion or other girl websites.

Cheers,

 

[alphonso]

Beautiful escort, best massage. Marketing BS. 95% fake pics in the ads. All hype.

 

[Maria Divina]

I have been blessed enough to have just decided to stay myself, in my presentations & during my encounters.
That's a decision I made when I began. But I was over 30, I was mature, having a lots of different experiences in life.
I know there is nothing best in life to stay true to ourselves.

Now, maybe when I girl/lady is writing and copying what she sees others are making as ads that look to work, maybe that's just the point, to have ads that work.

For my part, the ads I don't get, (and this is strictly a feminine point of view, I suppose) is the "trashy ads", with the "trashy pics poses"
The girls/women who are just playing the "cheap XXX movie star kinda attitude", with a lots of misspellings.
I have difficulties to believe that's their real personalities in life, what can I say.
But all this is just a matter of point of view. Some want the fake attitude, with the fake voice, with the fake laughing, with the fake volcanic orgasm that we can get in a XXX movie. They want an illusion, and that's very fine. To each their owns.

But I can tell something I heard so many times: the trashier an ad is, you can bet this is a pimp (or rarely a pimpette) who wrote it. And this make sense. Someone with no respect for the one who is advertised.

I read all the kind of ads and presentations since many years, and even a girl/lady who could have a "very extended menu like in the porno movies", if she wrote it herself, you can feel it. There will be some kind of proudness in her way to write.

So, if someone is telling you, in an ad, that she is "one of a kind" and similar things, I have a feeling that she might be a real indy.

After that, if someone is bragging to say: "I'm the best in the world", "the best in town", that's standard advertising we are all customized to see with products we're buying. Is this a good "strategie" to appeal clients? It seems that the answer could be yes. If not, those wouldn't simply not exist then. Some do want to have "the best" in life, so it's not hard to figure out why it could be working.

 

[tiannas]

I hate writing ads. I also hate writing resumes and personal dating profiles, etc. It's difficult to sum up one's personality and the experience they offer in a few words. I'm honest in my ads and try to present the essentials, with a few of my best qualities, but I often wonder who really reads them. When I talk of an intimate relaxed experience, and someone texts me for a 15 minute appointment, or I describe myself as classy and someone asks me "do you take it up the ass?", I get a little discouraged.
On my site I have a section with quotes from my reviews. I think that others' testimonials may be a better indicator to gentlemen than anything I would write in an ad.

 

[Thor Jr]

I hate writing ads. I also hate writing resumes and personal dating profiles, etc. It's difficult to sum up one's personality and the experience they offer in a few words. I'm honest in my ads and try to present the essentials, with a few of my best qualities, but I often wonder who really reads them. When I talk of an intimate relaxed experience, and someone texts me for a 15 minute appointment, or I describe myself as classy and someone asks me "do you take it up the ass?", I get a little discouraged.
On my site I have a section with quotes from my reviews. I think that others' testimonials may be a better indicator to gentlemen than anything I would write in an ad.

An honest and to the point ad with a bit of mystery is a perfect ad in my opinion, none of that " come play with me " stuff...

Thor Jr

 

[Lily from Montreal]

I am with Tiannas on that one.
I hate writing ads and do not see the point of creating different persona to attract different gents like someone suggested.
Au contraire I aim at a very specific clientele that fits my taste so once I am happy with a ad ,yes, I will use the same for different sites because I still aim at the same gents.
And honestly even if I change it I am still me so if you say you are tired of seeing the same ads but anyway it didn't attract you enough to write to me the first time ,maybe,just maybe it was not aimed at you anyway the first time.

I always thought my ad is meant for a first contact,emphasis on first,after it is thru emails exchanges that we decide,or no,to continue till a meeting happen,or not...

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

What I look for in an ad, one picture and do not care if she is naked ( there used to be a half Asian SP called June I think with great pictures, classy and superb shots ), ( if she is naked with ass in the air or legs spread wide open I pass ), GFE, safe GFE or restrictions plus working hours. A line or two was added in to entice is also nice.
A little blurb at the end about old balding fat guys being prefered and discounted would be appreciated though