Spending an overnight or a weekend with a lady.

[Guillaume]

I always wondered what were the benefits of spending an overnight or even a weekend with a SP. I understand that some guys even take them on vacation.
Could someone tell me the benefits and what do you do during the time off?
Aren't you bored after a while?
Has anyone ever sent the girl home earlier?

 

[bumfie]

I don't do that, but I can imagine how it would be fun provided it was an escort you had seen several times and thus had come to know well enough to feel comfortable on a long expedition like that.

I have met a few escorts whom I think I could do that with. I have, OTOH, met a few whom I found difficult to spend a full hour with even if the sex was good.

If you picked your spots right, I would imagine it to be a blast. But I would only do it with someone I'd seen several times on appointments of at least three hours or so and had taken outside the hotel room for part of that time to see how you get along when you're not scorching the sheets.

 

[Voyager]

Nope, no review here!

Once again, I click on a thread in the review section with the hopes of finding a review... what the heck was I thinking??

Trying to live vicariously thru others...

Voyager

 

[bumfie]

Agreed, Voyager. Thread is misplaced. Mods?

 

[naughtylady]

I can only guess at the reasons some of my clients choose overnights.

Sex, all night, when you want it, as much as you want it; (unlimited SOG) could be a reason.

Not having to eat alone (some people really hate this) when in a strange city.

Having some with whom you can have intelligent conversation with while recovering from your last SOG.

Being able to have some else take care of that morning hard-on without having to open the door.

Just musing...

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[Stoo]

Wander over to Terb...

Try contacting Pinkquack over on Terb. He has taken a couple of ladies away on vacations and they were very successful trips. I knew one of the girls and she had a blast. I also know that PQ was very familiar with both girls (having seen them a number of times) before he invited them away.

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=186624

 

[jacep]

I've done an overnight three times with three different ladies and I'm actually currently discussing travel with a SP for an upcoming business trip.

In terms of the overnights, I thought that for the most part, they were nice. With the exception of the 2nd overnight experience, I was exhausted because of lack of sleep in the overnights because of sleeping late in the hotel and waking up early in the hotel. In terms of the 2nd overnight experience, it was a bit more "distant" than the 1st overnight experience and 3rd overnight experience.

In terms of the number of SOGs, it might have been unlimited because none of the SPs mentioned anything except at the beginning phase to say that I could have as much as I wanted, however, the 1st overnight was 4 SOGs, 2nd overnight was 3 SOGs, and 3rd overnight was only 2 SOGs. All of these limits were mainly due to time constraints.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I've done it three times: a 4 day trip, a 3 day trip, and a week. All with the same person.

1. Know her before you go. Make sure you have enough in common to keep it going. Sex will only be part of the trip. Do you click well enough to enjoy each other's company?

2. Time off? There was no time off. When we weren't romping and rolling, we were cycling, hiking, dining out, shopping, and on and on. Again, make sure that your date interests you beyond the bedroom. In my case, she's been retired now for nearly two years, lives 3000 km away, and we still speak 4-5 times a week.

3. Benefits? Huge, depending on your likes. I like sleeping like spoons through the night. I like waking up and doing it again. I like doing it when we feel like doing it, not at a specific time because we have this hour or two scheduled.

4. Bored? Not for a minute.

 

[voyageur11]

Done it and i will do it again next time 3 week overseas

 

[jacep]

IMHO, anyone interested in only the number of SOGs should probably not go for an overnight.

 

[Doc Holliday]

It was moved from the Outcall Review forum to the Lounge as its not about a review on a provider. The initial post seems like a general discussion on extended dates, not asking for any specific 411 information such as providers who do extended dates or recommendations on providers.

Okay, so i had it backwards? I was unaware that this thread had originally been posted in the outcalls section. Thanks Mod 5.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

At some point in your life you reach a stage that if you have had 2 or SOG's the night before do you really need another one first thing in the morning ? At twice the price of the first 2 shots ?

It all depends on what your idea of fun is. Personally, I enjoy the company of a charming young woman, particularly if she knows how to have a good time, and is possessed of both wit and intelligence.

Paying someone to be your friend on vacation just sounds ......well it sounds sad and pathetic is what it sounds like. Sorry I realize that sounds unnecessarily judgemental. Wasn't meant to be.

Frankly, if I'm simply looking for a receptacle for my seed, I can find much less expensive options. If this sounds judgmental, ...

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I enjoy a woman who is interesting and fun to be with as well as being , shall we say, athletic. If I were alone, I would consider an arrangement where I paid for a plane ticket and a seperate room and gauranteed her of 2 hours of "business " a day and that's it. If she wanted to have lunch or dinner with me great, I'd spring for the tab, but I'm sure as heck not paying for that time. If she wanted to go her own way and do her own thing in the off hours that would be fine too.

A couple of thoughts here. First off, these were vacations for both of us. She was paid very little. In fact, she'd have earned more had she stayed behind in Montreal. I wouldn't travel with someone just for a couple of hours of sex; that can be found in any city; who needs to bring her along.

In my case, we'd met several times before and I knew that I'd enjoy her company (and she mine) 24 hours a day. I wouldn't travel with someone that I didn't know beforehand and that I didn't know would be a fun companion around the city as well as in the bedroom. (BTW, the longest trip we took was to a wilderness and we spent most of the time in the woods.)

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Should we classified your situation as an exceptional case that would not apply to the average merbite?
In a normal situation how much do you reckon a week with an HDH SP would cost the average merbite?

No, my case wasn't exceptional. How much would it cost with an HDH for a week?

If I were to call a random HDH and ask her to spend a week traveling with me and she didn't know me, I'd expect to be turned down no matter what the offer.

This is really a case by case basis. I know one guy who took an SP that he'd come to know quite well to South America for nothing more than her expenses. She knew him, knew she'd have a good time with him. She considered it more vacation than work.

I paid for each of my trips with my gorgeous friend, but I know guys who've spent more on single evenings with HDH girls than I spent on these trips (not counting airfare, meals, hotel, gifts, rental car, blah, blah, blah.)

 

[Mike Mercury]

24 hours with a hooker.
NOT for me.

I think getting paid $100 or $300 per hour for 24 hours is more of a hooker famtasy than a john fantasy.

To me a an SP is to twist and turn the way I like for an hour or two max.
To be treated like the actresses in xxx rated movies.

If you don't treat her like that...well many before you have and that is the baseline for what john's are worth to hookers.

Hookers that do not cooperate are for naive, shy johns taht do not know better.

 

[jacep]

Actually, from what I am told overnight's have a greatly discounted cost that is far below any hourly rate simply multiplied by the hours of the stay.

For my 1st overnight SP experience, I was charged a special overnight rate. For my 2nd overnight experience, the SP charged me an overnight rate which was lower than her hourly rate multiplied by 12 (she was with me for under 12 hours). For my 3rd overnight experience, the SP charged me her hourly rate multiplied by 12 (but she stayed longer than 12 hours). I didn't negotiate either rate. Each of these overnights were with different SPs.

For my upcoming business trip, while talking with the 2nd overnight SP, I mentioned an upcoming trip and she mentioned that she had never gone there and was hoping to go. I then asked if she wanted to go with me and mentioned how much I was capable/willing to pay. She mentioned that she was interested. After finishing our overnight encounter, we talked and chatted online about the details so if everything works out on her end (and my end), we'll be going in April.

 

[jacep]

Your experience doesn't sound like much of a deal. I think if these ladies have any business sense about keeping clients, especially those spending serious money for extended stays, they would be very wise to offer significant discounts rather than run a clock...and I think most do this instead of trying to squeeze out every cent and lose clients. Gentleman gold mines must be tough to find, so try negotiating more.

I'm assuming that you're referring to my 3rd overnight experience in which I was charged an hourly rate multiplied by 12 but she stayed longer than 12 hours. This isn't exactly accurate because at the 4th hour, the rate changed so the overnight rate was actually the 4 hour rate multiplied by 3. The reason I wrote that it was the hourly rate multiplied by a factor of 12 was because since I generally see her for 3-4 hours, I calculate the hourly rate based on the 4 hour rate.

For the SOG factor, having three 4 hour encounters on three different days with the same lady would have been better. This is why, earlier in this thread, I mentioned that people interested in the "unlimited" SOG factor should probably not go for an overnight experience.

What I can say is that I did enjoy myself with all 3 ladies for different reasons although like all encounters (not only the long ones), things could always have gone better.

The overnight that I had 1 week prior (my 2nd overnight experience), even though it was at an overnight rate, the "hourly" rate between the 2 ladies were somewhat comparable when I factor in that the 2nd lady stayed about 11 hours and 30 minutes (which includes the 20 minute shower before she left that she took alone on "my" time) whereas the 3rd lady stayed a little over 13 hours and showered on "her" time.

In terms of the negotiating aspect, I don't negotiate since I don't think that it will make an encounter turn out better. Once the SP informs me what her rate is, I might voice my opinion about it but if I'm not happy with it, I will go elsewhere.

In terms of me possibly travelling with the 2nd overnight SP (if everything works out), I enjoyed myself with her (as I did with the first and the third overnight SPs that I saw) and after she expressed her interest in the place and when I offered and mentioned how much I was capable/willing to spend, she didn't have any problems with it, I thought that it would be nice having a travelling companion with me while I was on business.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

$5K for the whole week with an HDH are not that expensive even if you have to pay for her airfare/hotel/dinner etc...
$5k/7 = $715/day = dirt cheap for an HDH or even for an LDL.

The figures you give above make sense if you're "renting" the time of someone you don't know. I'd never pay that kind of money for a traveling companion.

The key is that she's got to know you well enough that a) she'll enjoy your company and b) that she'll see it as a vacation that she'll enjoy as much you will. The other piece is that you've got to enjoy her company enough that you'll enjoy the time you spend outside the bedroom; if the trip is just about sex, then it becomes work for her. If sex is just part of the vacation, then she can enjoy the sex as well as the wining, dining, shopping, bike riding, sightseeing, etc.

If she sees it as a vacation with someone whose company she enjoys, the chances are that she'll make the trip for a fraction of the figure you mention above. That was true in my case and I even have a friend who took a girl traveling simply for her expenses.

 

[General Gonad]

The key is that she's got to know you well enough that a) she'll enjoy your company and b) that she'll see it as a vacation that she'll enjoy as much you will. The other piece is that you've got to enjoy her company enough that you'll enjoy the time you spend outside the bedroom; if the trip is just about sex, then it becomes work for her. If sex is just part of the vacation, then she can enjoy the sex as well as the wining, dining, shopping, bike riding, sightseeing, etc.

If she sees it as a vacation with someone whose company she enjoys, the chances are that she'll make the trip for a fraction of the figure you mention above. That was true in my case and I even have a friend who took a girl traveling simply for her expenses.

Mods, please allow me some latitude here to explore this deeper. No matter how much time she spends with you, a working lady is working. Underlying such statements as the above is that there are two classes of clients - those that SPs really enjoy enough to go on trips with and those that they do not enjoy enough to go on trips with.

I submit that this line of thinking is erroneous for several reasons. Even if she accepts to go on a trip with you, do you really think she enjoys your company or is just looking to make "easier money" by sticking to one John instead of having to see multiple Johns to make the same money? In other words, is it possible that the lady is just doing it exclusively for financial reasons?

Second, why would you go on trips with an SP unless you had ulterior motives to develop some sort of deeper relationship with an SP? We all know you can't buy love but I wonder about the psyche of guys who think that they developed a "special" relationship with an SP just because they took her here on a trip. These guys are especially vulnerable because they might think they are special to an SP when the reality is the SP sees them as chumps they can squeeze trips, money and gifts out of.

Third, SPs feel it is a vacation when they can be themselves and hide nothing. I know SPs who vacation but they never tell me I am vacationing with a client. Instead they'll say "I got to go somewhere with this client". Now to the client, they'll say "oh, I can't wait to vacation with you" but in reality, she might dread it.

Finally, let me share some insight with you. I met one lady in the past few months that none of you really know about. She has an extremely wealthy client in the US who is a software billionaire. She claims she has a special relationship with this person. "He flew me over to Spain and we spent time together on his yacht".

Assuming it is true, what the hell does she know about him and what does he really know about her? Maybe they are friends but I suspect she is impressed with his fortune and he just wants a piece of her ass.

The moral of the story is that you should reserve trips for people you really care about. When vacationing by your lonesome, try to pick up a babe at the bar, you never know, she might be an SP.

GG

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I submit that this line of thinking is erroneous for several reasons. Even if she accepts to go on a trip with you, do you really think she enjoys your company or is just looking to make "easier money" by sticking to one John instead of having to see multiple Johns to make the same money? In other words, is it possible that the lady is just doing it exclusively for financial reasons?

Second, why would you go on trips with an SP unless you had ulterior motives to develop some sort of deeper relationship with an SP?

Third, SPs feel it is a vacation when they can be themselves and hide nothing.

Are you speaking here from experience, or pontificating from on high? My statements, for the record, are from experience.

As for question number 2, the answer is: for fun. That's why some of us see SPs, for fun and for fun alone.

Question 3, I assume that, since you're speaking for SPs, that you've been an SP yourself. Otherwise, how do you come by this knowledge?