We all have a strong stance against BBFs, it's not escorts who want to offer these, it's clients who ask fot it! All of us get asked for BBFs! The number of potential clients and old clients I had to block because of this is high, and I'm not the only one. Why can't we talk about this more?? One member of this forum that I still see active was horrible to me and asked me for BBFs in person, and he sees multiple escorts all the time. This is just really common. We talk about it among ourselves. I'm just annoyed that we are making this into escort's fault, seriously..
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Did you reported him to the mods?
I am blaming the clients who ask, first and foremost, too. That's why I referred to narcissists. I understand the power dynamic. To say that all escorts have a strong stance against that practice is a bit too lenient, though. I would never blame a vulnerable woman who is being pressured by a predatory client. To have bbfs built into your business model, that's another story, and that is condemnable.
I do not doubt that these people exist, but I have no idea how many ask for BBFS. As a client, the sample size I can trust is one, and in my case that means 0% inquire about this practice. It's up to you (general you) to share what the % is based on your reality.
To my other point, I'd be curious to know if you (@Lunaseraphim) or @Valentina would be willing to share the names of unsafe SPs in DMs so that these can be avoided. I have asked clients about names & places that should be avoided because of BBFS offerings and never received a response as this information can be misused.
No, because this was over 2 years ago and it isn't something I can prove with screenshots.
Maybe not all escorts, but most escorts I know have a strong stance against it.. Obviously having bbfs built into a business model is a really bad and condemnable practice! I just think that there are a lot of rumors and unless there is a screenshot of the person offering it on their ad or directly to a client, I find it hard to believe that it's so common for escorts to offer bbfs, specially to new clients.. But I'm sure that it does exist.
I don't know any SP's who offer BBFs personally, and I really advise against asking for names, because this is a really competitive industry and people WILL try to sabotage others, and clients who don't like a particular SP will message you with a name. Maybe if you want to know if a particular SP offers it, ask her. If it's part of her business model she will tell you.
Yes I understand your point. But that is exactly the catch-22 I was referring to. Asking this question to avoid SPs who offer BBFS can easily get you flagged as someone looking for BBFS.
That's why I think this discussion isn't really going anywhere.. It's all speculation and rumors. I have seen posts a couple times on here made by guys who said they ended up doing that with somebody from a MP or an agency so why are we all acting surprised. (and the posts were not deleted!) At MP's where I worked even kissing and DATY were controversial. I'd say in general SP's are pretty against BBFs, but there have probably always been girls who offer them.
That's also why I want to put the responsibility of clients to either not ask for, or decline BBFs. If you have low self control around this, don't see SP's at all. It's already very common for clients to tell me that they can't cum with penetrative sex with condoms, not that I care because I am not going to offer BBFs, but sometimes I wonder if the person is subtly asking for it. If you can't cum with a condom on, there are other things you can do than penetrative sex, but you should maybe also ask yourself why the condom is such a turn off.
This industry, like Valentina said, is risky. It's all about taking calculated risks. Obviously if you get bbbjs from 5 sps a week who are high volume there are higher risks of getting a STI vs if you see the same SP all the time or see 2-3 SP's a month. I would never shame anybody's service, but if I was working for an establishment and had to see over 10-15 clients a week, I'd feel wary of even offering GFE. I choose to offer the services I offer because I have the privilege to see 3 to 6 clients a week only, and even that is considered high volume for certain people.
This industry, like Valentina said, is risky. It's all about taking calculated risks. Obviously if you get bbbjs from 5 sps a week who are high volume there are higher risks of getting a STI vs if you see the same SP all the time or see 2-3 SP's a month. I would never shame anybody's service, but if I was working for an establishment and had to see over 10-15 clients a week, I'd feel wary of even offering GFE. I choose to offer the services I offer because I have the privilege to see 3 to 6 clients a week only, and even that is considered high volume for certain people.
My post was to bring attention to this matter and to discourage this type of behaviour.
The thing is, if I do name names, there’s always gonna be SPs and clients who’ll never share or talk about it. It’s always gonna exist and circulate unfortunately.
I also don’t wanna contribute to the telephone game because that can get back to me - even if I tried to warn people for good measure. People can find out I name dropped and then come for me. It’s pretty scary tbh. For all of us. I take my safety extremely seriously.
When I think about it, I’d almost have to make a fake account and message people from there so that no one knows it’s me. Same as MERB users who advise other MERB users of these SPs.
Hopefully @Sylar some MERB users see your message and send you the names. There are more than the 3 I’m aware of because I received new messages yesterday from users who warned me about other X-Y-Z SP or place and it’s different than the names I know of.
If ever this thread is enough to make these SPs or clients change their ways / reconsider their practices, I’m happy with that. I’m afraid that BBFS will never be completely abolished from the industry, there’s always gonna be a bozo offering or requesting it.
As a receptacle lmao, even if I try to avoid this bullshit - I won’t ever know because clients who DO or DON’T engage in BBFS still see the SP that other clients may or may not go see after their BBFS shenanigans. It’s literally not avoidable. And scary.
Makes you think, eh? I guess we’ve all fucked each other in a sense
hahaha
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This also brings up another subject:
STD / STI SHAMING
God forbid I ever catch something as an SP…
*TouchMyHeadKnockOnWoodMALOCCHIO*MALOCCHIO*
… Unfortunately the majority of people’s reactions will be a negative outlook on me afterwards. I will be automatically regarded as dirty, gross and unsafe…
Yet we SPs are the fkn receptacles lmao.
It’s our fkn jobs and that’s the highest risk.
Unless SPs are completely unsafe in their personal lives / have no regard for themselves and bring that back into the community at work, none of us want to catch anything. ✨Obviously✨
(Unless your’re like those bozos who don’t care and just wanna pop pills and “oh well” their lives away).
People need to ask themselves why the fuck would I wanna put my clients (and their wives) in danger...
AND IN TURN…
… our husbands or boyfriends. Because yes. Lots of clients think we don’t have lives outside of or work. Some of us have actual boyfriends outside of the job or are married LMAO. (Shoutout to the clingy clients who don’t understand that we’re not their gfs at the end of the day and text us as if we are hahaha)
So yeah… Do you think our partners would love to piss fire as well? No. Golden showers is cool for some - fire showers, not so much.
Again. This is to bring awareness about how far things can go. Nevertheless, it’s usually always regarded as the SPs fault at the end of the day. Which, isn’t necessarily her fault lmao.
I never had an STI/STD in my 2 years of being an SP. I’ve had chlamydia before entering this industry. I had seen a guy from Tinder and WITH PROTECTION and had NO SYMPTOMS. Thankfully, I get tested frequently.
(I had an Impreza though) ((Sorry but I’m funny ok byyyyye))
STD / STI SHAMING
God forbid I ever catch something as an SP…
*TouchMyHeadKnockOnWoodMALOCCHIO*MALOCCHIO*
… Unfortunately the majority of people’s reactions will be a negative outlook on me afterwards. I will be automatically regarded as dirty, gross and unsafe…
Yet we SPs are the fkn receptacles lmao.
It’s our fkn jobs and that’s the highest risk.
Unless SPs are completely unsafe in their personal lives / have no regard for themselves and bring that back into the community at work, none of us want to catch anything. ✨Obviously✨
(Unless your’re like those bozos who don’t care and just wanna pop pills and “oh well” their lives away).
People need to ask themselves why the fuck would I wanna put my clients (and their wives) in danger...
AND IN TURN…
… our husbands or boyfriends. Because yes. Lots of clients think we don’t have lives outside of or work. Some of us have actual boyfriends outside of the job or are married LMAO. (Shoutout to the clingy clients who don’t understand that we’re not their gfs at the end of the day and text us as if we are hahaha)
So yeah… Do you think our partners would love to piss fire as well? No. Golden showers is cool for some - fire showers, not so much.
Again. This is to bring awareness about how far things can go. Nevertheless, it’s usually always regarded as the SPs fault at the end of the day. Which, isn’t necessarily her fault lmao.
I never had an STI/STD in my 2 years of being an SP. I’ve had chlamydia before entering this industry. I had seen a guy from Tinder and WITH PROTECTION and had NO SYMPTOMS. Thankfully, I get tested frequently.
(I had an Impreza though) ((Sorry but I’m funny ok byyyyye))
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I know you have good intentions, but it's a telephone game as you said. How can you prove that somebody is offering BBFs? I feel like it's impossible to prove it unless you have screenshots of a transaction by text. When I worked at a certain MP like I said there was a rumor that a certain girl offered BBFs. But there were also tons of rumors about everyone, and I feel like often people lied about their own practices too.
I feel like bored individuals with bad intentions could use this as an excuse to cause drama. (I'm participating in this thread because I'm bored af lol) Also think about it how do the clients who are warning you know that this or that SP is offering BBFs?
Yes, agreed.
However, my regulars showed me the actual convos on their phone at the time of our session. The receipts exist but aren’t in the public eye.
Agree with what’s been discuss in the thread. No BBFS with clients I generally like condom all the time no matter with who I have sex with
I have BB with non escorts but it’s usually them that insist on no condom
So for question for SPs When you go vanilla dating are you okay with BB?
I have BB with non escorts but it’s usually them that insist on no condom
So for question for SPs When you go vanilla dating are you okay with BB?
Most relationships I’ve had in the past / people I’ve dated and slept with I’ve used protection. Yes I was reckless years ago, but never again lmao. I’m fkn terrified of catching shit.
Also, regularly testing yourself while seeing different people in the dating scene is crucial. As I’ve mentioned in another response above, I’ve caught one STI ever in my life and it was before being an SP. It was a Tinder guy I had met, used protection, still caught Chlamydia and had no symptoms. The way I found out was because I test frequently.
So to answer your question more precisely hahaha: after knowing what I know now and being in this industry - 100000069% using protection with anyone new I date, but I don’t date lmao. Also, I would only do BBFS with my partner in a monogamous relationship. Usually I’d set up our appointments back to go together. (I know. I’m lame hahaha. But it makes for a cute lil activity around town) ♥
I would only do BBFS with a trusted, and frequently tested partner and between collaborators for porn scenes. Lots of BBFS in porn - extremely strict and full panel testing before each scene. Results under 24H.
Some private clinics also give you your results the same day depending on the time of your appointment that day. But every full panel test is +/- $400.
Usually public places such as Prélib charge +/- $15 an appointment - have more of a wait time (up to 2 weeks time to get your results). Prélib also has an option to have your results expedited but at a pricier cost. However, it’s not full panel testing.
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You kill me lmaooooo. I’m just fkn scared honestly. I mean. I’m not losing any sleep over it but I give a damn ♥
What age range by curiosity? Like I can understand the thought process of men who don't want to use a condom, but what is the thought process of a woman who insists on no protection? I don't think this experience is unique to you.
I generally don’t carry condom and so when we are having sex and it’s time for penetration I let them know I cannot do it because I have no condom but they insist it’s okay with out a condom
Surprisingly it’s the older women
The one that are okay with me BB are usually on BC or had a hysterectomy They are not worried about STd as much They are worried about pregnancy They are not escorts and dont sleep with many men and assume I don’t sleep around either
The ones who are not on BC are more likely to want a condom or have me pull out before cumming but still allow BB at the heat of the moment.
Again these are civies not escorts
I would not have BB with escorts
If you know you’re going to have sex with civies and don’t come prepared that’s kind of like an imposition on doing it bare, without knowing if the girl is going to take the risk or not. Not insinuating that you’re doing it on purpose but you’re setting yourself up for BBFS without knowing if the woman has protection.
Again, I caught something once before being an SP and it was with a civie.
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