The Bitching thread

[Lunaseraphim]

Unwilling? Then reject the client. No harm, no foul, try again another day. And I love the mental acrobatics to spin rejecting bad service to rape, and yes, you are positioning the argument that way. This is a service. You can be friendly, you can care, but at the end of the day, this is SP-client, be professional.

Resolving or moving past it is certainly your choice. Not saying that's not a viable option. I certainly have looked past some bad encounters and tried again. If you feel it is worth it, go for it. But for $3000, well... it's a decision alright

Hey you're the one who used the word rape here. Nobody else has. The person who posted the comment originally said he chose not to take the service and jerk himself off.

Why do you even care how much money others are spending? I feel seriously puzzled by this. I don't understand where the 3000$ comes from. I don't think I know anybody who charges this much for a 6h date in Montreal.

Ultimately, I think it's annoying that some people here rage bait with vague posts that are clearly missing information about some providers and everybody is reacting with such intensity because it involves booking long dates or sending a deposit.

The guy who posted the comment originally, says he has seen this SP multiple times before, which is implying he was perfectly satisfied by the service until that point and probably enjoys her company.

And yet, he chose to complain here as soon as one date didn't go exactly as he thought it would, fully knowing what people would say.

This is why some of us are afraid of having guys who are always on review boards as regular clients. Honestly this is what I wanted to bitch about this morning. It puts unnecessary pressure and reduces trust. It's just really unfortunate.

 

[Fradi]

This is why some of us are afraid of having guys who are always on review boards as regular clients.

Yet you advertise here daily.
Guess $$$ overrides fear lol.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Yet you advertise here daily.
Guess $$$ overrides fear lol.

I advertise here daily, but most of my clients aren't constantly looking at the forum and participating in discussions. There are a lot of people who just look at the ads and reviews.

You have to take what I say with a grain of salt too because this is a generalization. There are some people who participate respectfully here.

Yes, money overrides fear because we all need it to survive. Do your bills magically pay themselves? What I was talking about is that many escorts fear having regulars who participate on review boards because of incidents like this one. It doesn't hurt me or anyone to see very active members once in a while. The problem can arise when somebody becomes a regular client.

By the way, there are clients I don't see anymore because I didn't like how involved they were with this whole thing.

If I advertise here, it's because I made a logical choice to get clients, since I don't have as much success with other platforms.

This mostly applies to Montreal because for example during my Ottawa tour last weekend most clients I saw had actually found me on social media. In Halifax, most clients find me on Tryst. Etc.

This is how business works. Trial and error. This is a business. I have the right to have reservations about the advertising platforms I use. You're directing this comment at me but in reality most escorts share these reservations about this space.

 

[AnthonyAnderson]

We have to first look at the math here. $3,000 a pop. This is surely not pocket change. Three times a month since February. That is a total of $72,000. This is excluding lunch and other expenses.

Also the frequency. Seeing her three times a month for eight months. This has become quasi-relationship with a level of comfort developed over time and deterioration of the best foot forward SP/Client dynamic. Something is going to slip. Took 24 meetings to finally happen. In many instances would happen much sooner. Within the third or fourth encounter especially with dinner or lunch involved. She lets down her guard.

The problem here is not that the escort "let down her guard". They`re not robots. The problem is that the client lost touch with the nature of relationship and became overly invested (and least monetarily, and likey emotionally as well). I have written extensively on this topic elsewhere. Sometimes a firm message (post #1,222) is what is needed to mobilize awareness in the client.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

The problem here is not that the escort "let down her guard". They`re not robots. The problem is that the client lost touch with the nature of relationship and became overly invested (and least monetarily, and likey emotionally as well). I have written extensively on this topic elsewhere. Sometimes a firm message (post #1,222) is what is needed to mobilize awareness in the client.

Just a question, where do you see that this client got overly invested in the relationship?

 

[AnthonyAnderson]

Just a question, where do you see that this client got overly invested in the relationship?

You're making that conclusion because he booked her many times and for long periods of time, but that doesn't mean he was overly invested

I won't elaborate more out of respect for the client in question. Up to him if he wants to share additional information on what is going on in his mind.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I won't elaborate more out of respect for the client in question. Up to him if he wants to share additional information on what is going on in his mind.

I see. I guess there's information I don't have, so I can't have an opinion on the matter, and nobody who is reading this thread really can.

 

[twenty4seven]

Unwilling? Then reject the client. No harm, no foul, try again another day. And I love the mental acrobatics to spin rejecting bad service to rape, and yes, you are positioning the argument that way. This is a service. You can be friendly, you can care, but at the end of the day, this is SP-client, be professional.

I think she made it pretty clear that that one specific act was not good for her in the moment (bad smell/taste, upset stomach from what they would've just eaten, who knows?), AND YET SHE WAS GOING TO PERSEVERE. That's what the consistent money bought him, a clear rejection of the situation with her face but yet, even then, an effort. She clearly didn't want to suck his dick but was going to anyway. I don't agree with that but it's not my money or situation. She was unwilling but still tried to push through until he put the brakes on; I didn't say anything about rape (I'm glad your defenses went there immediately, though, projection working overtime).

Be professional? That means what? I gave you the money so shut up and suck my dick without a grimace, regardless of how you're feeling about it?

All I'm saying is that there was a conversation to be had, to clear all this up and likely resolve it or move past it between 2 people who've been seeing each other consistently for a while and clearly enjoy each other's company but instead the snap suggestion is to ignore it, blame her, and find someone else? I guess I'm not wired that way.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I think she made it pretty clear that that one specific act was not good for her in the moment (bad smell/taste, upset stomach from what they would've just eaten, who knows?), AND YET SHE WAS GOING TO PERSEVERE. That's what the consistent money bought him, a clear rejection of the situation with her face but yet, even then, an effort. She clearly didn't want to suck his dick but was going to anyway. I don't agree with that but it's not my money or situation. She was unwilling but still tried to push through until he put the brakes on; I didn't say anything about rape (I'm glad your defenses went there immediately, though, projection working overtime).

Be professional? That means what? I gave you the money so shut up and suck my dick without a grimace, regardless of how you're feeling about it?

All I'm saying is that there was a conversation to be had, to clear all this up and likely resolve it or move past it between 2 people who've been seeing each other consistently for a while and clearly enjoy each other's company but instead the snap suggestion is to ignore it, blame her, and find someone else? I guess I'm not wired that way.

Also ''the mask fell off because you pushed beyond the normal SP-provider relationship''.. Nah. Even if you just book a person for 30 minutes once in a while, it could happen that she's in a bad mood or sick that day and the experience isn't the same as usual. A relationship between a client and a provider can become toxic even if he's just booking short amounts of time as well. It has nothing to do with how much money he is spending or how much time they send together.

However, I do think that there are some real questions clients should ask themselves before making the choice to book a provider for this amount of time, this often. If you are going to regret it and resent the SP later and scrutinize her every move, it's better not to do it in the first place. Obviously, these are very large amounts of money we're talking about here. I have never had a client who booked me for very long dates, this often. If I did, yes I would be grateful, but part of me would be a little bit concerned.

 

[EastWind]

The problem here is not that the escort "let down her guard". They`re not robots. The problem is that the client lost touch with the nature of relationship and became overly invested (and least monetarily, and likey emotionally as well). I have written extensively on this topic elsewhere. Sometimes a firm message (post #1,222) is what is needed to mobilize awareness in the client.

LOL. Oh fuck me Tickle Me Elmo. People don’t fully read and comprehend nowadays. You guys carry on I have to go shave my balls and crazy glue the hair to my upper lip so I can finally have the mustache I always wanted.

 

[dominou]

Thanks everyone for your comment ! I will add that. We agreed for two SOG during the session as usual. But she did an overnight just before me and it was a duo overnight with one of her friend. What do you think happened during an overnight with 2 girls. It will be very hard to sleep. I had sex with her during the morning and even there she was not as usual. After lunch we were back to the room, we took a shower. She told me she want to HJ me but i ask if she can do a bj. At that moment her face changed as if i ask her to do something discusting. She clearly reach her maximum number of SOG during a 24h. But for me, i took it like i am discusting and she cannot hide it this time because she was tired. Luna you talked about pressure here. I charge more than 500$/h on my job and i am audited in real time by an external firm using AI tools. The more you charge the more you have pressure.

 

[EastWind]

Okaaaay this is like investment banking meets MSOG. Trying to soldier on after pulling an all nighter.

Whatever path you choose going forward good luck.

 

[AnthonyAnderson]

I charge more than [....] on my job and i am audited in real time by an external firm using AI tools.

Dystopian

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Thanks everyone for your comment ! I will add that. We agreed for two SOG during the session as usual. But she did an overnight just before me and it was a duo overnight with one of her friend. What do you think happened during an overnight with 2 girls. It will be very hard to sleep. I had sex with her during the morning and even there she was not as usual. After lunch we were back to the room, we took a shower. She told me she want to HJ me but i ask if she can do a bj. At that moment her face changed as if i ask her to do something discusting. She clearly reach her maximum number of SOG during a 24h. But for me, i took it like i am discusting and she cannot hide it this time because she was tired. Luna you talked about pressure here. I charge more than 500$/h on my job and i am audited in real time by an external firm using AI tools. The more you charge the more you have pressure.

I'm sorry that you experience pressure and hardship at work. But being a SP isn't the same thing as having a civilian job that pays very well. It's not a consistent job. It's not something you can call a ''career''. It's something that isn't well perceived by society, and that you can't do for a long period of time.

I think people tend to forget that during a long booking, everything is work, not just ''the shots''. Your SP didn't refuse an overnight before this booking, maybe because that's the only other booking she had recently, who knows. Maybe she should have refused it. I know I don't particularly enjoy arriving tired at bookings and if I think I might appear sick in front of a client I will feel mortified.. but like someone else said, we aren't robots. And sometimes performance has nothing to do with how much money we're given in my opinion.

Now you can either talk to her, or you can just stop seeing her if the experience was disappointing.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Dystopian

If you pull back and look at the bigger picture you'll find more than just one single thing dystopian

 

[Smitty Jaeger-Manjenson]

If this is set aside as "the bitching thread", I am going to bitch about skunks.
I am usually an animal lover. But in urban areas, skunks should be KOS (kill on sight).

 

[AnthonyAnderson]

If you pull back and look at the bigger picture you'll find more than just one single thing dystopian

Not to sound like a broken record, but 90% of people out in public staring at their phones counts as dystopian to me!

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Not to sound like a broken record, but 90% of people out in public staring at their phones counts as dystopian to me!

I agree despite being guilty of this.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

If this is set aside as "the bitching thread", I am going to bitch about skunks.
I am usually an animal lover. But in urban areas, skunks should be KOS (kill on sight).

Nooo! Skunks are adorable, not agressive, the only downside is they are smelly, but hey, are we gonna start killing every stinky person on the street?

 

[Smitty Jaeger-Manjenson]

Nooo! Skunks are adorable, not agressive, the only downside is they are smelly, but hey, are we gonna start killing every stinky person on the street?

Don't give me ideas.