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Lately, the girls are having some wild restrictions. No Indians, No Blacks. Some girls do not like older men, or young men, or fat. A new thing I am seeing more now is SP refusing BBBJ to uncircumcised men. I am just like wow. This was unheard of 15 years ago. It is not that common yet but it is spreading more. And I noticed a lot of SPs blame the client for poor hygiene for not receiving certain services, but I checked the review history of said client and they got good service from the others. It is just too easy and convenient to put the blame on hygiene when it was the SP that did not feel like or want to do DFK or give BBBJ. I read a review recently of a SP recently with an agency, who seem to have a pattern of giving bad service to Indian clients. This is the kind of stuff I am talking about. Prices are going up but service quality is going down. Laeticia is another example, A1 service with the agency but once she goes Indy, the guy had to pay for PSE to get standard GFE service. Everything was an extra plus she had a NRP which means she is to be avoided. NRP is a big red flag. Is this really a case of bad hygiene or bad behavior?
 

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I read a few reviews of some SPs that took advantage of shy clients and talked the whole time. These are recent reviews btw. Imagine a guy spending $700, and the girl decides to talk.

This is exactly what YMMV means. She has the right to be YMMV but more and more reviews in 2025 is leading to poor services for various reasons. This is not something I am accustomed to given this was not the norm 15 years ago.

Nah. This is based on the reviews I been reading lately. The one Indy I was was in 2021, she was Leena BlackBeauty. I had a great time with her and it was full GFE.

No obviously dealing with a shy client has to be handled in a certain way. I get a lot of shy clients and I usually make the first move, but sometimes they need to be eased into it. I do agree that if the guy is nice and has good hygiene, it would be really shitty for a girl to avoid sleeping with him and talk the whole time, if that's what he wanted. I also agree that it's shitty to refuse clients based on stuff like race and weight and age and stuff like that, it doesn't seem very professional.

However about hygiene.. It's really hard wanting to kiss someone who has really bad breath. Let's just put it that way. It's a matter of respect too.. No guy here wants to see a SP who's breath smells like cigarettes and coffee
 
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Lately, the girls are having some wild restrictions. No Indians, No Blacks. Some girls do not like older men, or young men, or fat. A new thing I am seeing more now is SP refusing BBBJ to uncircumcised men. I am just like wow. This was unheard of 15 years ago. It is not that common yet but it is spreading more. And I noticed a lot of SPs blame the client for poor hygiene for not receiving certain services, but I checked the review history of said client and they got good service from the others. It is just too easy and convenient to put the blame on hygiene when it was the SP that did not feel like or want to do DFK or give BBBJ. I read a review recently of a SP recently with an agency, who seem to have a pattern of giving bad service to Indian clients. This is the kind of stuff I am talking about. Prices are going up but service quality is going down. Laeticia is another example, A1 service with the agency but once she goes Indy, the guy had to pay for PSE to get standard GFE service. Everything was an extra plus she had a NRP which means she is to be avoided. NRP is a big red flag. Is this really a case of bad hygiene or bad behavior?
Yes this all go in the direction of "less eager to please" trend , restrictions that you see more and more with the 2023-2024-2025 SPs. Something is clear tho, like anything in life, if they dont put LOVE and motivation into what they are doing, it ain t gonna be great. it s not some magical formula that i invent just today
 
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Yes this all go in the direction of "less eager to please" trend , restrictions that you see more and more with the 2023-2024-2025 SPs. Something is clear tho, like anything in life, if they dont put LOVE and motivation into what they are doing, it ain t gonna be great. it s not some magical formula that i invent just today
It is because the clients in 2025 are accepting sub-par service and some white knighting protecting SPs that did wrong. Like the guy who sent all the money to an Indy but she vanished and eventually returned some months after (probably and only because she was exposed publicly on Merb) but not the entire amount and the OP decided to delete his comment.

Of course it was always no love and zero sympathy. Money and sex brought clients and SPs together and clients need not forget that.
 
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No obviously dealing with a shy client has to be handled in a certain way. I get a lot of shy clients and I usually make the first move, but sometimes they need to be eased into it. I do agree that if the guy is nice and has good hygiene, it would be really shitty for a girl to avoid sleeping with him and talk the whole time, if that's what he wanted. I also agree that it's shitty to refuse clients based on stuff like race and weight and age and stuff like that, it doesn't seem very professional.

However about hygiene.. It's really hard wanting to kiss someone who has really bad breath. Let's just put it that way. It's a matter of respect too.. No guy here wants to see a SP who's breath smells like cigarettes and coffee
Well thank you for saying that. That s the agreement, the HANDSHAKE that i am trying to obtain here. Nothing more honestly.

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A contract works both ways. like one said.
Scenario:
GIVEN that Paul is genuinely nice and clean and respectful (he is in hobby for years, he even has SP references),
IF Paul requests the advertised services of SP Jane AND he meets Jane still within the standard specification of his body and attitude that are proven good by past experiences and everything,
AND Jane accepts to meet him,
THEN Jane is expected to deliver the services consistently to the full extent of her knowledge and motivation. That does not depend on whether Paul likes motorbikes or pop music like her. That does not mean Jane is assimilated to a BestBuy Vaccum Cleaner
 
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It is because the clients in 2025 are accepting sub-par service and some white knighting protecting SPs that did wrong. Like the guy who sent all the money to an Indy but she vanished and eventually returned some months after (probably and only because she was exposed publicly on Merb) but not the entire amount and the OP decided to delete his comment.

Of course it was always no love and zero sympathy. Money and sex brought clients and SPs together and clients need not forget that.
Yes some guys have a broken misdirected Superman complex
 
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However about hygiene.. It's really hard wanting to kiss someone who has really bad breath. Let's just put it that way. It's a matter of respect too.. No guy here wants to see a SP who's breath smells like cigarettes and coffee
Its funny cause today my mother came to me to show me a leaflet (we order "tourtiere" and other holliday meals from that place every year) and she just smoked. I was sitting down and she arrive behind me to show it to me so she was pretty close and OMG i had to tell her to get away. It took me a solid 20 min to not have the smell in my nose anymore. It was so gross ...

I wouldn't be able to kiss someone who just smoked... Mouthwash ASAP lol
 
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Well thank you for saying that. That s the agreement, the HANDSHAKE that i am trying to obtain here. Nothing more honestly.

Further details:
A contract works both ways. like one said.
Scenario:
GIVEN that Paul is genuinely nice and clean and respectful (he is in hobby for years, he even has SP references),
IF Paul requests the advertised services of SP Jane AND he meets Jane still within the standard specification of his body and attitude that are proven good by past experiences and everything,
AND Jane accepts to meet him,
THEN Jane is expected to deliver the services consistently to the full extent of her knowledge and motivation. That does not depend on whether Paul likes motorbikes or pop music like her. That does not mean Jane is assimilated to a BestBuy Vaccum Cleaner
I don't disagree with you, if a SP doesn't provide the services she said she would the client has a reason to be upset. And I don't see why the service would be better if the client has the same interests as her. I do find that it's easier to connect with someone who has similar interests as you, and a lot of men book providers they know they will have things in common with.. It goes both ways. Otherwise yes I generally agree, if a client wants a specific service and it has been discussed with the provider, and he is polite, clean and respectful, he should get the service he paid for. I also do agree that a good escort puts love and motivation into the bookings, otherwise the client will sense it. But that can come in different forms.
Its funny cause today my mother came to me to show me a leaflet (we order "tourtiere" and other holliday meals from that place every year) and she just smoked. I was sitting down and she arrive behind me to show it to me so she was pretty close and OMG i had to tell her to get away. It took me a solid 20 min to not have the smell in my nose anymore. It was so gross ...

I wouldn't be able to kiss someone who just smoked... Mouthwash ASAP lol
You see what I mean? I've had partners before who smoked and drank a lot of coffee and I couldn't kiss them until they freshened up. I don't think that's being difficult.
Yes some guys have a broken misdirected Superman complex
I still think sometimes you don't see the entire side of the story. I'm realizing that I don't see a lot of what goes behind the scenes as well and there's a lot I still don't understand from reading posts written by clients here because some context seems to be missing for them.. But I hear stories and have personal friends in the industry, I believe what they tell me when it comes to some isolated experiences. (in some examples mentioned here I have no idea and I will admit that with humility) However what your friend mentioned above about a provider giving bad service to Indian clients is really shitty and seems to be consistent.
 
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