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hey cmon now, be fair, he did say a few years, even tho its only 8 games into the season,,,, i for one am not giving up on my team......never have, never will....= true fan
It might be time to buy a new crystal ball Doc - your old one seems to be defective.
 

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Reflecting upon this, i'm amazed at the kind of money thrown around at marginal to 2nd line players. Yes, Gomez, Cammalleri & Gionta are 2nd line players on half of the other teams in the league.

ASTONISHING!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:

Cammalleri, Gomez and Gionta have a combined 24 points (and +8) in 10 games (equal to an average of 2.4 points per game)

Toronto’s top 3 forwards; Hagman, Ponikarovsky and Stajan have a combined 13 points (and -1) in 8 games (equal to 1.6 points per game)

That means…, wait for it fool, … that Montreal’s “marginal to 2nd line players” are 50% more productive than Toronto’s top 3 forwards.

ASTONISHING!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:
 

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Loss to Canucks give winless Leafs worst-ever start

The woeful Leafs, the only winless team in the NHL, dropped to 0-7-1

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http://www.thestar.com/sports/hocke...s-give-winless-leafs-worst-ever-start#article
 

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I'm debating whether it was a dirty blow or not and leaning towards not dirty.

When the intent is to either decapitate or kill the opposing player, i'd say it's a dirty blow. I don't care if he was hit with the shoulder or the elbow. It also should be an interference penalty when the guy doesn't even have the puck & he's blindsided by an opposing player. We see interference penalties called on players who barely touch an opposing player without the puck, yet nothing is called when a guy nearly gets killed by a runaway bus.

I'm not against hitting & there's nothing i love more than a good, hard bodycheck. But when the player no longer has the puck & he's looking up ice, there's absolutely no reason why he should expect getting nearly decapitated or runover. He no longer has the puck.

Another problem i have is with premeditated fights. As soon as the puck drops, two players skate away, put their gloves down, line one another up & begin swinging. Usually it's the tougher guys (the goons) on both teams. I find this absolutely stupid & it's one of the main reasons why one day, fighting in hockey will be outlawed. I have nothing against a fight that happens in the flow of the action. But these types of premeditated fights are becoming more & more common now & breaking the flow of the action. They're just plain stupid! Not only should a delay-of-game penalty be applied to the 5-minute fighting majors, an 10-minute misconduct penalty should be added also. Therefore, both of these idiots will have an extra 20 minute to think about what they just did. Also, considering the size of these two gorillas, i wouldn't be surprised if one day, someone doesn't get killed by a single punch to the head. Players whose roles on their respective teams consider mostly fighting the other team's goons regularly suffer concussions & this increasing problem is constantly being ignored.
 

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Let's see .........

1) Elbow down? CHECK
2) Both skates on the ice? CHECK
3) Contact with shoulder only? CHECK
4) Time between pass and contact < 1 second? CHECK

Might be brutal but completely clean and legal IMO.
 

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Might be brutal but completely clean and legal IMO.

Legal doesn't cut it with me. I still play hockey on a regular basis & the shoulder pads being used today could be used for a knight's armor back in the medieval days. The pads are now as hard as cement! You obviously must know that you'll be inflicting considerable damage to an opponent's head when you use those same shoulder pads for a hit.

It's time for the league to start looking into outlawing hits to the head, period.
 

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shoulder pads being used today could be used for a knight's armor back in the medieval days. The pads are now as hard as cement!

That's true, I remember a Coach's Corner last year where Cherry showed a pair and said the same thing. He then proceeded to hit Ron MacLean over the head with them to proove his point and almost knocked him out. :p Todays equipment is more the problem than cheapshot players. Go back to leather and a little plastic and you'll see way less of these.

It's time for the league to start looking into outlawing hits to the head, period.

Unfortunately when you have 6' 9" players against 5' 7" they will always happen regardless of whatever rule is put in place.
 

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1) Elbow down? CHECK
2) Both skates on the ice? CHECK
3) Contact with shoulder only? CHECK
4) Time between pass and contact < 1 second? CHECK

Might be brutal but completely clean and legal IMO.

Upon further reflection (and watching the video a dozen times), i must admit it was a hell of a check & one i'd be applauding if a player on my team would have made it. It was legal according to the league's rules, no doubt. But again, one hell of a bone-crushing check!! I also don't really know what Booth could have done to avoid it....he did see Richards coming, but the play happened so fast that he didn't have much time to react.

A player who successfully makes that check is a heck of a hockey player & who will always get the ice time he wants if i'm coaching. One who doesn't finish his check on such a play will be riding the pine. That's hockey!
 

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Unfortunately when you have 6' 9" players against 5' 7" they will always happen regardless of whatever rule is put in place.

True. We're seeing this problem currently in the NFL, with hits to the head being called all the time, especially on hits against a QB.
 

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Another problem i have is with premeditated fights. As soon as the puck drops, two players skate away, put their gloves down, line one another up & begin swinging. Usually it's the tougher guys (the goons) on both teams. I find this absolutely stupid But these types of premeditated fights are becoming more & more common now & breaking the flow of the action. They're just plain stupid! Not only should a delay-of-game penalty be applied to the 5-minute fighting majors, an 10-minute misconduct penalty should be added also. Therefore, both of these idiots will have an extra 20 minute to think about what they just did.

Interesting. Too bad your idiot G.M. Gasbag Burke doesn’t feel the same way – instead Burke is stuck in a 1970’s hockey mentality. How else do you explain trading a highly skilled defenseman like Kubina for a slug like Exelby, signing a one dimensional goon (Orr) to a long term contract for double the league minimum and having another equally useless pylon like Rosebud in the lineup?
 
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And the habs do it again!!! Another overtime win for the good guys! Good performance from Halak stopping 29 of 31 shots.

Now let's see if the Leafs can stop the slide against the Ducks tonight. Which former hab will come out on top? Komi or Koivu?
 

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And the habs do it again!!! Another overtime win for the good guys! Good performance from Halak stopping 29 of 31 shots.

2 goals from the Habs D-men and another from Moen - giving the big line a rest :D

Now let's see if the Leafs can stop the slide against the Ducks tonight. Which former hab will come out on top? Komi or Koivu?

If the league kept stats for "own goals", Komi would lead the NHL. :D

Burke really left Anaheim in a mess - the Ducks suck! Laffs leading 5-2 in the third :eek: just engrave the cup now!
 
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they played like shit tonight, they were lucky it was the islanders and not a top tier team

instead and they narrowly escaped with a win in OT
 

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if they can beat the pens in pitt wednesday, fair and square in REGULATION, then goscabsgo will most likely have 1100 posts by the end of the night :p

the habs luck in these ot games will eventually run out, do you realise that out of 6 wins. 5 are in overtime ? they could and in all probability should be 1-10 :eek: but thats hockey... it is what it is..... just like the leafs are alot better than 1-7-1.........

hey, any of you going to the game sat? it would be nice to meet for a beer, ? ballday? master? jhfan? tech? even u gsg lol, your buying tho :p jk....... anyone else besides doc and myself?



they played like shit tonight, they were lucky it was the islanders and not a top tier team

instead and they narrowly escaped with a win in OT
 
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