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Mighty Maple Leafs #2 in Eastern Conference

Leafs steamroll dead Ducks

By TERRY KOSHAN, QMI Agency

ANAHEIM - The woeful Anaheim Ducks were easy marks.

The Leafs completed a four-game trip on Sunday night with their third consecutive victory, beating the Ducks 5-2 before an announced crowd of 13,685 at the Honda Center.

Joffrey Lupul had two assists in his first return to southern California after the Leafs acquired him from Anaheim last February.

"It was a great way to finish off the road trip," Lupul said. "We were pretty solid tonight. It has been a lot of travel and we were strong all the way through the third period."

Lupul couldn't be happier and the Ducks, who have won just two of their past 18 games, couldn't be worse.


The Maple Leafs improved to 108-106-34 in the regime of general manager Brian Burke, who was hired three years ago to the day. Toronto has won 14 of its first 24 games. It didn't win its 14th last season until Jan. 1, in its 37th game.

Missing bodies

The Leafs were without two more regulars, but against the Ducks, that did not matter a whole lot.

Centre David Steckel, the Leafs' best faceoff man, did not participate in the pre-game warmup after suffering a left pinky injury in Dallas on Friday. Defenceman Carl Gunnarsson was a scratch after taking part in the warmup. Gunnarsson suffered an injury to the fourth finger of his left hand against the Stars.

Mikhail Grabovski, who missed five games with a lower-body injury, was back in uniform and was on a line with Jay Rosehill and Philippe Dupuis. Defenceman Keith Aulie, recalled from the AHL Marlies, made his season debut and was paired with captain Dion Phaneuf.

Steckel and Gunnarsson joined goaltender James Reimer, defenceman Mike Komisarek and forwards Colby Armstrong, Mike Brown and Matthew Lombardi on the sideline.

The Leafs have proven to be a resilient bunch, though, and have shaken off the injuries. Determination has become a hallmark of the club.

Jonas Gustavsson had another stellar game in goal. He now has four consecutive wins.

He stoned both Corey Perry and Andrew Cogliano in the second period as the Leafs held on to a 3-1 lead. That talk a few weeks ago about whether Gustavsson could properly back up Reimer has evaporated.

"You want to win, that is why you play," Gustavsson said. "But you try not to be satisfied, because you could lose the next game."

Joey Crabb put the visitors ahead 3-1 in the second period when he skated to the front of the net and tipped Luke Schenn's shot behind Jonas Hiller.

Tyler Bozak, with two goals, MacArthur, and Luke Schenn into an empty net also scored for the Leafs.

"I thought we skated really well," coach Ron Wilson said. "We're one of the few teams that has not blown a third-period lead (the Leafs improved to 9-0 when leading after two periods).

Ex-Leaf Francois Beauchemin and Perry scored for the Ducks.

Lupul assisted on both of Bozak's goals, giving him 18 points in November. Only the Chicago Blackhawks' Jonathan Toews, with 18 points, has had as many in the calendar month.

"That surprises me quite a bit," Lupul said. "I don't think of myself in that category with the top scorers in the league. I have to do lots of other things to have success."

Quick spurt

The Leafs used a 19-second spurt to kill a small spurt of Ducks momentum in the first period.

Beauchemin scored on a power play to give Anaheim a 1-0 lead at 9:51, the Leafs struck twice, starting at 14:10.

John-Michael Liles made a sweet backhand pass to Bozak, who had to tap the puck into the open net.

MacArthur gave the Leafs their first lead of the game after Tim Connolly stole the puck from Toni Lydman at the Ducks blue line and got it up to MacArthur. A slap shot by MacArthur deflected high into the net off the stick of defenceman Luca Sbisa.

With Bozak's first goal coming on a power play, the Leafs have scored a goal with a man advantage in seven consecutive games. The most recent time that happened was in March of the 2007-08 season, when they had a power-play goal in 10 consecutive games.
 

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Current DeFacto NHL Standings

How come all the major sports besides hockey have moved into the 21st Century with advanced statistical metrics? Hockey is also the only major sports where the team that has played the most games is placed higher in the standings. With that in mind, I've created the DeFacto Standings, adjusting the standings to reflect the actual caliber of each team's play. Here are the current Eastern Conference standings, measure by points earned per game played.

NY Rangers 20 27 1.3500
Pittsburgh 24 32 1.3333
Boston 22 29 1.3182
Philadelphia 23 29 1.2609
Toronto 24 30 1.2500
Florida 23 28 1.2174
Buffalo 23 27 1.1739
Washington 22 25 1.1364
New Jersey 22 25 1.1364
Tampa 22 24 1.0909
 

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How come all the major sports besides hockey have moved into the 21st Century with advanced statistical metrics? Hockey is also the only major sports where the team that has played the most games is placed higher in the standings. With that in mind, I've created the DeFacto Standings, adjusting the standings to reflect the actual caliber of each team's play. Here are the current Eastern Conference standings, measure by points earned per game played.

NY Rangers 20 27 1.3500
Pittsburgh 24 32 1.3333
Boston 22 29 1.3182
Philadelphia 23 29 1.2609
Toronto 24 30 1.2500
Florida 23 28 1.2174
Buffalo 23 27 1.1739
Washington 22 25 1.1364
New Jersey 22 25 1.1364
Tampa 22 24 1.0909

Huh? In Hockey, the team with the most points wins or leads, so why are you complicating this? Oh, I forgot. :confused:
 

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Huh? In Hockey, the team with the most points wins or leads, so why are you complicating this? Oh, I forgot. :confused:
Quite simple. It's November 28 and some teams have played more games than others. Come April 7, they'll all have played the same number. The Defacto Standings helps prevent fans of certain teams delude themselves into thinking that they're doing better than they actually are simply because their team has played more games. Witness the above post where this poor guy thinks that the Maple Leaves actually have the second best record in the Eastern Conference.
 

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Caps fire Gabby Boudreau; replace him with Caps legend Dale Hunter

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The slumping Washington Capitals fired coach Bruce Boudreau on Monday, replacing him with former team captain Dale Hunter.

Boudreau paid the price for his club's downward spiral. Since starting the season 7-0-0, the Caps have gone 5-9-1 since -- including weekend losses to the New York Rangers and Buffalo Sabres.

Via text message, Boudreau declined comment for now when reached by ESPN.com other than to say he's had "better days."

Capitals general manager George McPhee told ESPN.com the "performance over the past 10 days'" was the tipping point.

Capitals owner Ted Leonsis, in a published post on his website, thanked Boudreau.

"It's never easy to let a coach go, and Bruce was a popular personality who helped turn around our franchise," Leonsis wrote. "Despite what transpired on the ice this year, I always will be thankful for Bruce's time with the Capitals and will remember him fondly.

"He is a great coach who I'm confident will land another spot in the NHL. Unfortunately the shelf life of a coach is short; Bruce was the fifth-longest-tenured coach in the league. That's amazing to me."

Under Boudreau, hired in November 2007, the Capitals went from non-playoff team to perennial regular-season contender although they failed to get over the playoff hump, losing to eighth-seeded Montreal in April 2009 in the first round of the playoffs and to Tampa in the second round last spring when the Caps again had high expectations.

Boudreau changed his ways this season, adopting a stricter approach with his players knowing that his job was on the line.

Franchise player Alex Ovechkin did not respond well, slumping this season with 17 points (9-8) in 22 games (54th in league scoring), and it put Boudreau on the hot seat as well.

Stepping in is Hunter, who spent the past 11 seasons in the Ontario Hockey League as coach of the London Knights, where he reached 400 wins faster than any coach in league history. He has a record of 451-189-23-24.

"Dale was a tenacious player and great leader," Leonsis said in the website post. "The reins are his, and we are here to support him."

The 51-year-old former NHL player will be behind the bench Tuesday night when the Caps host the St. Louis Blues.

Hunter played 19 seasons in the NHL with Quebec, Washington and Colorado, having his number retired by the Capitals in March 2000.

In a 5-1 loss to the Sabres on Saturday, the Capitals (12-9-1) looked very much like a team that has been listless throughout a 3-7-1 stretch. They've lost four straight on the road by a combined score of 19-4.

"We try our best and know how we have to play, but we don't play," Ovechkin said after the loss. "We make mistakes in our zone and it costs us goals and costs us games."

Boudreau won 200 games faster than any coach in modern NHL history, going 201-88-40 in the regular season with the Capitals but just 17-20 in the playoffs.

Hunter played for the Capitals from 1987 to 1999, the last five seasons as team captain, and is one of four players to have his jersey (No. 32) retired by the franchise. He is the only player in league history with 1,000 points and 3,000 penalty minutes. His career total of 3,563 penalty minutes ranks second all-time.

Boudreau turned around a moribund franchise when he was hired in 2007, leading the Capitals to the first of four consecutive Southeast Division titles and winning the league's coach of the year award in 2008. Nicknamed "Gabby," he brought an offensive philosophy that meshed well with Ovechkin and the team's other "young guns" such as Alexander Semin and Mike Green, but he was never able to get Washington beyond the second round of the playoffs.

Boudreau had the team adopt a more defensive mindset during a losing streak last season, but it failed to pay dividends in the spring.

Boudreau's assistant coaches -- Dean Evason, Bob Woods and Blaine Forsythe -- will remain in their posts under Hunter.

Pierre LeBrun covers the NHL for ESPN.com.
 

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I've created the DeFacto Standings, adjusting the standings to reflect the actual caliber of each team's play. Here are the current Eastern Conference standings, measure by points earned per game played.

NY Rangers 20 27 1.3500
Pittsburgh 24 32 1.3333
Boston 22 29 1.3182
Philadelphia 23 29 1.2609
Toronto 24 30 1.2500
Florida 23 28 1.2174
Buffalo 23 27 1.1739
Washington 22 25 1.1364
New Jersey 22 25 1.1364
Tampa 22 24 1.0909

LOL!!! Thanks for sharing. It's great to see Canada's team 5th in the standings. It's also even better seeing that Quebec's team isn't even listed. :thumb:

However, what about the one point earned by a team tied after regulation?
 

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Canes fire Paul Maurice....again! Captain Kirk Muller to the rescue!

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The Carolina Hurricanes have again fired coach Paul Maurice, ending his second stint with the team, the club said Monday.

Kirk Muller will be announced as his replacement later in the day, a source has confirmed to ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun.

Muller, a six-time All-Star who retired in 2003, is in his first season as coach of the AHL's Milwaukee Admirals after five seasons as an assistant coach with the Montreal Canadiens.

The Hurricanes, who host the Florida Panthers on Tuesday, are mired in last place in the Eastern Conference's Southeast Division at 8-13-4. They have lost 11 of their past 15 games.

Maurice took over the Hurricanes during the 2008-09 season and led them to the Eastern Conference finals, but they haven't been back to the playoffs since.

He also coached the Carolina-Hartford franchise from 1995-2003 before his first firing. His combined record with the team was 384-391-145.

Carolina ranks 28th in the league in goals allowed, giving up an average of 3.24, and has one of the worst power-play units in the NHL, scoring on just 12.2 percent of its chances with the man advantage.

Maurice, who helped shepherd the club's move from Hartford to North Carolina in the late 1990s, returned to the Hurricanes in December 2008 when Peter Laviolette was fired. He guided their run to the 2009 Eastern Conference final, the club's only playoff appearance since they won the Stanley Cup in 2006.

Before that, they hadn't reached the postseason since Maurice led them to the 2002 Stanley Cup final -- the highlight of his first stint with the team.

The 44-year-old Maurice received a three-year contract in 2009 that ran through this season. His combined record with the team was 384-391-145, and his career record of 460-457-167 includes two years with Toronto sandwiched by his stints with Carolina.

He was first fired by Carolina in 2003-04 following an 8-14-8-2 start.

Maurice holds the Hurricanes' career coaching record with 25 playoff victories, but none came in the previous two seasons. The 2009-10 team set a club record with a 14-game winless streak, and last year's group finished one victory shy of making the playoffs when it lost its finale on home ice.

Maurice became the second coach in his division to lose his job Monday. His firing came about 90 minutes after the Washington Capitals fired Bruce Boudreau and replaced him with Dale Hunter.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
 

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Montreal Canadiens' Max Pacioretty deserves suspension

by Jack Todd, The Montreal Gazette

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MONTREAL - It seems as though this nightmare is going to be played over and over – until the end of time or the end of the National Hockey League, whichever comes first.

There we were on Saturday night, all eyes gathered to see Sidney Crosby back in action. Third period of a tight game, the Canadiens in the process of blowing a 3-1 lead, Kris Letang in the middle, hemmed in between two Habs.

Then, cruising in from the side with a full head of steam, one Max Pacioretty, whose abuse at the hands of Zdeno Chara last season would help end the unfortunate reign of Colin Campbell as the NHL’s head disciplinarian, bringing with it Brendan Shanahan and a new era.

Bang! Blindside hit. Open-and-shut, you would think, according to Rule 48. But if the players have been notoriously slow to respect each other, NHL referees have been just as slow to take action on the ice.

Letang is down, blood all over the ice. He looks woozy, as though he has been concussed. The call from referees Dan O’Rourke and Mike Hasenfratz? No call.

Among the protesters was Crosby himself, another of the reasons Campbell is gone, Shanahan is in charge, and the league has an important new concussion protocol in place. But only the night before, Crosby was guilty of an elbow to the head of Nick Foligno in Ottawa. Head shot? You betcha. Not half as bad as Dave Steckel’s accidentally-on-purpose hit on Crosby during the Winter Classic, or Chara driving Pacioretty’s head through the stanchion – or Pacioretty on Letang.

You hope that Shanahan will come down on Pacioretty with both skates. Montreal fans, of course, with their notorious penchant for seeing the world through CH glasses, will declare Pacioretty entirely innocent.

But you can’t have one set of rules for anyone wearing a Canadiens uniform and another for everyone else. (To his credit, Pacioretty apologized to Letang before the overtime, which at least shows he’s a class act, even if he’s as prone to an irrational act as any other player.)

But Shanahan has to step up when he has a phone hearing with Pacioretty today. Shanahan has been an infinite improvement on Campbell, but he dropped the ball badly with the Milan Lucic hit on Ryan Miller and he needs to make a statement here.

What Shanahan has to say to Pacioretty is that the league failed Pacioretty when it failed to discipline Chara – and if the young power forward is going to expect the NHL’s protection, then he is going to have to be responsible for his own actions on the ice.

You don’t get a free pass now just because you were one of the victims last season.

This is not about whether we like Pacioretty. He’s a terrific young player – but that hit was over the line. Now it’s up to Shanahan to make it clear to all concerned, beginning with Pacioretty himself.

Then someone needs to sort out the refs.

They missed a bunch on both sides Saturday night, including P.K. Subban making like Alexandre Despatie and earning a 10 from the Chinese judge. But the hit on Letang was the one that hurt.
 

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Flames great considering trade

Jarome Iginla is apparently thinking about leaving Calgary in an attempt to win a Stanley Cup elsewhere. This means he may be willing to waive his no-trade clause.

The Calgary Sun's Eric Francis has sources close to Iginla who believe Iginla is "quietly struggling with the realization his dreams of winning a Stanley Cup will not play out in Calgary." Now, this might mean he could leave Calgary in two years, when his contract expires. But he's 34 now so he may not be able to afford to wait, and the Flames may get the most from a trade by dealing him now.

That said, the Flames has insisted that they want Iginla to be "part of the solution," but if Iginla wants out, they may concede to his wishes and see how much they can get for him on the market -- though it may not be much.
 

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I fail to grasp why you're complicating matters. Hockey is a simple game, including its stats. The team with the most points is considered the top team, period. There's nothing complicated with this. A team could play 10 games & another 8 games. The one who's played 10 games could be 2 points ahead of the other team in the standings. They're #1 & #2, simple. Just because the team in the #2 slot still has two games in hand doesn't make it the #1 team.
No, of course it doesn't make them the number one team in the standings. It just makes them the team that has played better over the course of the season to date. That's the problem with the standings as they're currently formatted.

The way the standings are formatted has nothing to do with hockey. It has everything to do with math and common sense. The current flawed way the standings are presented is almost 90 years old. In baseball, they have come up with more accurate ways of presenting statistics, such as OPS and OPB. They could do the same in hockey, but clearly, since the way the standings are now shown, it appears (and only appears) that the Leaves have played the second best hockey so far in 2011-2012, when in fact there are five teams that are ringing up standings points at a higher rate.
 

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The way the standings are formatted has nothing to do with hockey. It has everything to do with math and common sense. The current flawed way the standings are presented is almost 90 years old. In baseball, they have come up with more accurate ways of presenting statistics, such as OPS and OPB. They could do the same in hockey, but clearly, since the way the standings are now shown, it appears (and only appears) that the Leaves have played the second best hockey so far in 2011-2012, when in fact there are five teams that are ringing up standings points at a higher rate.

Who cares? :noidea:
 

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Rick Middleton was a damn good player. He deserved his nickname "Nifty". My top 5 favorite Bruins over the years (in no particular order) are Orr, Esposito, Bucyk, Middleton and Bourque. Why? Well here goes:

Orr- unmatched talent, classy and ethical, humble, great sense of humor (ask Espo about the hospital episode!)

Espo - tough, determined, consistent and a proud and gutsy warrior in 72

Bucyk - durable and consistent, for many years just about the only good thing about the Bruins

Middleton - slick, creative and definitely "nifty"

Bourque - classy, steady and reliable

I'd agree completely with this list JC, all 5 were amazing players. On a side note; Middleton's also a very personable, cool guy whom Doc & I met at a local Montreal pub and shared many Jameson shots with.
 

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On a side note; Middleton's also a very personable, cool guy whom Doc & I met at a local Montreal pub and shared many Jameson shots with.
And what a night it was! :D

A few years ago, i played in an exhibition game against a bunch of NHL oldtimers. We all drank some beer together after our game. The 'oldtimer' that everyone seemed to enjoy the most (great hockey stories!) was none other than the late Bob Probert. What a cool & entertaining guy he was!
 

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Well it seems that people just do not get it. I do not post warnings for the typing practice.

Thread closed.

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As part of this decision, the Free For All thread is being closed as of now. If members cannot behave in this Official NHL thread even though they have a thread available to let off steam and behave like children, I see no point in having that thread continue. It will just lead to members crossing the line in this thread.

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If people would keep the free for all attitude in that thread only, I would not have a problem. Unfortunately they do not and that attitude continues in this thread. This is supposed to be an adult board but for some reason, certain posters prefer to behave like children. This is the consequence of that behavior. If the members who post in this thread are able to keep themselves under control, I may relax the rules over time.

I would like to remind you, and everyone else, that this is an Escort review board first, not a sports board. When moderating the sports threads takes more of a moderator's time than moderating the rest of the board, there is a problem. I receive more PMs about sports threads than about any other subject on MERB. We are not here to moderate a sports board.

As for the subject of trip reports, that has already been discussed and settled. Reviews belong in the proper thread of the provider being reviewed. If someone wishes to post a trip report, they may do so by posting general comments along with links to the complete reviews. It is not difficult to do but takes a bit more time for the poster. I find it a shame that some members do not mind wasting moderators' time in sports threads but cannot be bothered to spend a bit of their own helping things remain organized for everyone's benefit when it comes to the main purpose of MERB.

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Ryan Miller returns tonight after three week absence

BUFFALO, N.Y. -- Buffalo Sabres goalie Ryan Miller will dress for the first time in nearly three weeks when the Sabres host the Detroit Red Wings on Friday night.

Miller, who hasn't played since sustaining a concussion when Boston's Milan Lucic bowled him over in Buffalo's loss to the Bruins on Nov. 12, is expected to back up Jhonas Enroth against Detroit.

Miller may get his first start since the injury on Saturday when the Sabres play at Nashville.

Miller began taking shots on the ice earlier in the week, and participated in his first full practice on Wednesday.

The Sabres (13-10-1) were 3-4-1 without Miller.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/7306607/ryan-miller-buffalo-sabres-returning-3-week-absence
 
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