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rumpleforeskiin

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What about the Boston/Buffalo game tonight?
I'll give you a prediction, Doc. When the Boston/Buffalo game is over, either the Bruins or Sabres will be in first place in the division.
 

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I'll give you a prediction, Doc. When the Boston/Buffalo game is over, either the Bruins or Sabres will be in first place in the division.

So who's feeding you all this crap? Cairo? :confused:

Indeed, the winner of the game will be in a tie for 2nd overall in the Conference with the mighty Maple Leafs......let's hope it's Buffalo! :D
 

rumpleforeskiin

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Indeed, the winner of the game will be in a tie for 2nd overall in the Conference with the mighty Maple Leafs......let's hope it's Buffalo! :D
Sure, if you want to pretend that games played doesn't mean anything.

You think I don't know this game? I've been a hockey fan since Gump Worsley was tending goal for the NY Rangers, with only a lapse of a few decades in between.

And I also know math and I know that 26 point in 22 games is not the same thing as 26 points in 20 games. You may be able to fool yourself, but you can't fool me.
 

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Sure, if you want to pretend that games played doesn't mean anything.

You think I don't know this game? I've been a hockey fan since Gump Worsley was tending goal for the NY Rangers, with only a lapse of a few decades in between.

And I also know math and I know that 26 point in 22 games is not the same thing as 26 points in 20 games. You may be able to fool yourself, but you can't fool me.

You played with Gump Worsley? Really? Wow!

By the way, check the link i posted. Toronto is still technically ahead of Boston in the standings:

http://espn.go.com/nhl/standings
 

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The only thing Burkie could ever school the Great Steve Yzerman in would be on how to put extra syrup on his pancakes - LOTS of extra syrup in Burkie's case.
 

rumpleforeskiin

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By the way, check the link i posted. Toronto is still technically ahead of Boston in the standings:
Oh, I get it now. That must be the way things work in hockey. The team listed second is technically in first? Please share your advanced knowledge with me, Doc.
 

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Oh, I get it now. That must be the way things work in hockey. The team listed second is technically in first? Please share your advanced knowledge with me, Doc.

Considering the fact that you're chronically delusional & live within your own bubble, trying to teach you anything about hockey is hopeless, i'm sad to say. I'm certain that there must be an Archambault book store close to you that has the book i suggested you read the other day. Reading that book would be a start. ;)

Allright......question for all.......as of today, who is the youngest team in the NHL? Hint: they've been regarded as 'Canada's team' for the past century or so. :eyebrows:
 

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Hello Fellow REAL Hockey Fans,


Cricket...cricket...:eyebrows:

The Champs have now won 10 straight and their 27 goal differential is one goal short of being double that of any other team in the NHL.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ht-watch-sabres-taken-on-lucic-for-miller-hit

So this was the big planned fight and Gaustad is supposed to be a dominate fighter. He should have kept backing up, then started running because he wouldn't have ended up kissing the ice. :D

Happy landings, ;)

Merlot

So the Bruins won 10 in a row after a 3-7 start?

Does this remind you of another Boston team that plays in the Spring and Summer and failed to qualify for the playoffs in the fall?

Anyone care to guess?

I don't have any crystal balls, and the season has just begun, but wouldn't it be funny if the Bruins follow this team's lead?
 

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So the Bruins won 10 in a row after a 3-7 start?

Does this remind you of another Boston team that plays in the Spring and Summer and failed to qualify for the playoffs in the fall?

Anyone care to guess?

I don't have any crystal balls, and the season has just begun, but wouldn't it be funny if the Bruins follow this team's lead?

Very true & i like the comparison. What people fail to understand is that in hockey, a 10-0 winning streak doesn't mean as much as people think. A team could go 12-0 and then hit a slump & go 0-10. Players also get regularly injured in hockey & an injury to one or two key players could be devastating to a team. Most teams in the NHL don't have the depth the better teams have & if a key player or two goes out to serious injury, they could very well kiss their season goodbye.

The most successful teams are the ones that win consistently & keep losing slumps to a minimum. You also need a bit of luck to remain successful. You could have a good team that struggles in ot shootouts, and an average team that wins most of their ot shootouts. The average team could very well be on top of the better team in the standings simply because they've been lucky in shootouts. Or, a team could be slumping & decide to replace the coach, and suddenly, they're playing like contenders. Take the St-Louis Blues. Since Ken Hitchcock (great coach, but an a-hole) became their head coach two weeks ago, he's turned the team around & they're winning on a regularly basis. They even beat the Pittsburgh Penguins last night!
 

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Does this remind you of another Boston team that plays in the Spring and Summer and failed to qualify for the playoffs in the fall?

Anyone care to guess?
I need another hint. Has this team of which you speak, by any chance, won two world championships in the last eight years?
 

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I need another hint. Has this team of which you speak, by any chance, won two world championships in the last eight years?

Yes, but they finished 3rd place the last 2 years and haven't won a Championship in 5 years.
 

rumpleforeskiin

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He may be referring to the team that won only two championships over the past 94 years. :lol:
Which makes two more than the Maple Leaves have won in your lifetime.
 

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Which makes two more than the Maple Leaves have won in your lifetime.

Wrong again. The Toronto Maple Leafs won 13 Stanley Cups over the past 86 years, second only to the Montreal Canadiens. And, if i'd be your age, i would have witnessed at least 10 Stanley Cups for those great Toronto Maple Leafs teams. How many have the Bruins won? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

rumpleforeskiin

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Wrong again. The Toronto Maple Leafs won 13 Stanley Cups over the past 86 years, second only to the Montreal Canadiens. And, if i'd be your age, i would have witnessed at least 10 Stanley Cups for those great Toronto Maple Leafs teams. How many have the Bruins won? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're 86 years old???

Shows what you know. In the last 86 years, the Red Wings have won 11 times, the Leaves 10. However, in your lifetime, since I don't believe you're 86, the Leaves have yet to win.
 

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You're 86 years old???

Shows what you know. In the last 86 years, the Red Wings have won 11 times, the Leaves 10. However, in your lifetime, since I don't believe you're 86, the Leaves have yet to win.

Sorry to burst your delusional bubble, but here goes:

The Toronto Maple Leafs are a professional ice hockey team based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. They are members of the Northeast Division of the Eastern Conference of the National Hockey League (NHL). The organization, one of the "Original Six" members of the NHL, is officially known as the Toronto Maple Leaf Hockey Club and is the leading subsidiary of Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment, (MLSE). They have played at the Air Canada Centre (ACC) since 1999, after 68 years at Maple Leaf Gardens.

The Leafs are well known for their long and bitter rivalry with the Montreal Canadiens, and more recently the Ottawa Senators. The franchise's 13 championships are second only to the Canadiens, who have 24. Toronto has won eleven Stanley Cups as the Maple Leafs since the cup became solely competed for within the NHL in 1927, and two cups prior to this: one as the St. Patricks, and one as the Arenas. However, the Leafs have not won the Cup since 1967, giving them the longest-active Cup drought in the NHL, and thus are the only Original Six team that has not won the Cup since the 1967 NHL expansion.

At $505 million US (in 2010), the Leafs are the most valuable team in the NHL, followed by the New York Rangers and the Montreal Canadiens.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Maple_Leafs
 

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In the last 86 years, the Red Wings have won 11 times, the Leaves 10. However, in your lifetime, since I don't believe you're 86, the Leaves have yet to win.

Ha-ha!!! I was correct about whom your 'hockey source' was. :nod:

(for the record, i've witnessed 4 Maple Leafs Stanley Cups in my lifetime, but who cares?)
 

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Sorry to burst your delusional bubble, but here goes:
Once again, Doc, I'm right, you're wrong. (God, it gets so boring correcting you all the time.) If you look again at your post, you make a distinct reference to "the last 86 years." The number I cited are correct for the last 86 years.

Also, the article you cite refers to the Maple Leaves as a "professional ice hockey team..." I'd call the whole article into question.
 

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I would like to point out that i totally agree with all of you in regards to the Big Bad Bruins, which were my favorite hockey team growing up. The Bruins have a formidable team, led by a formidable goaltender in the great Tim Thomas, one of my favorite goaltenders EVAH!

What to say of Bobby Orr, Phil Esposito, Wayne Cashman, Gerry Cheevers, Don Marcotte, Ken Hodge & company......my idols growing up!

The Bruins won the Stanley Cup & won me a lot of money in the process, so i will not criticize them. After all, there is still a part of me that respects the Bruins. I love their style of hockey: goon it up, get the big saves, and then chip in a couple of goals to terminate the enemy.

If the NHL's youngest team manages to keep up with the Bruins throughout the rest of the season, the good Doc will be a very happy man & the Leafs season will have been a success.

The Bruins have good balance, are very well coached, but i fear for Claude Therrien's job if ever the team would get into a slump since Cam Neely hates his guts & only wants an excuse to fire him. Hang in there, Claude!

If no one has noticed already, i have made it no secret that my favorite hockey team are those loveable Maple Leafs. However, i have no ill-feeling against the rest of the league, except for the Montreal Canadiens, which i've absolutely despised for most of my lifetime.

I absolutely love it when the Big Bad Bruins are in town & kick some serious Habs butt!!!! :D
 

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Hey Merlot, you were warned not to make up quotes of others. In thread #177 you ignored that warning. Guess you'll pay the price buddy.

So you are rehashing a well known fact. :D



If I treated this as seriously as possible all you have here is a common scenario about teams that start cold, get hot, then burn out. It's still just silly playground talking points not relevant to any specific case, and in the end just desperate fan bias wishing.

The Bruins had a case of Stanley Cup hangover, which Julien put an end to by getting tough with trade talk possibilities to instill motivation. When team members realized they could suddenly find themselves in far less advantageous places they snapped out of it. This was never a case of real struggling, but lost focus...now over. The only thing I would be concerned with is the same as any team fan. Key injuries.



How many since the Toronto and Montreal were forced to compete without favorably unbalanced recruiting advantages??? :rolleyes: Regardless, since expansion in the 1967-1968 season...the Bruins have 3 Stanley Cups, the Leafs have 0. Sorry Doc, but the burden is on the Leafs until they can win in a league where they have to compete on more equal levels.



Again, simply wishful and self-serving for talking points. Of course the Leafs and their fans have forgotten long ago what a championship hangover is like. ;)

Don't forget it was the "3-7 Bruins" who beat the crap out of the Leafs 6-2 handing them their first regulation loss.



So this can all be true, but it's a specious argument of maybe, if, shoulda, woulda coulda that can happen to any team.

The Bruins aren't an average team. Google: NHL...Stanley Cup Champions...2010-2011 season. And they haven't needed to rely on slim margins or overtime shootouts. They've averaged 5 goals per game in their run, and despite being generally outplayed they beat their arch rival on their ice. They have depth, and even Tuuka would be an adequate replacement for Thomas, though not with the same edge.

I detect a little sour grapes double standard about shootout results. If the Leafs had won the two they lost you and Iggstigator would be puffing yourselves up about the skill it took, not citing "luck".

***Point of fact...there was no luck in crushing the Leafs 13-2 in two games, and if the Leafs could have done anything in those games there would have been no 10 game winning streak...which at least was worth 20 POINTS...if nothing else. :D :nod: :thumb:

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