And your bulge will move from the front of your jeans to your wallet.
The Post-Corona/Covid escort world, once its over, how will it be?
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There will always be customers, but I think a lot less, and if prices go up there will be even fewer customers.
The question: are the PS who are going to ask for more, are going to be less at risk, as we say we always get our money's worth?
Yes I agree with you: "no difference if the sheets were changed or if the girls took showers between the clients. It is not possible to have a safe meeting in this context"
And on your last point, I agree so much.
Personally I think of the scenario of Miss Rosedelacourt.
My opinion: rates will likely drop in Montreal or stay the same.
I posted In another thread “WTF...are agencies still open? about the impact of COVID on North New Jersey (NNJ) and NYC agencies, many of which are still open. Rates have either come down or the posted rate is flexible. I don’t like that pricing model, my preference is the rate is the rate.
So many strippers are trying to become Escorts now. One escort at a popular agency whom I text with regularly said no way will rates in the NNJ/NYC area remain what they are (will definitely decrease, and she heard that from a popular agency owner). Less demand, guys working from home unable to break away, risks of infecting family members, etc.
You guys know the Montreal market better than I, but as a NNJ guy, why the hell would I go to Montreal if agencies increase rates given the social distancing policies when being out and about in the city. A lot of NYC area guys likely think the same way I’m sure.
An extra $40-$60 CAD isn’t going to break my bank, but I’m just saying there are a lot more variables to consider here than suggesting rates will increase because girls feel more at risk. The same is true for family guys, and they control the cash.
And if either Toronto or Montreal agencies move to a non-GFE model, the reputations of both cities as popular hobby destinations are finished. I don’t think that will happen, though there were some suggestions on TERB.
I posted In another thread “WTF...are agencies still open? about the impact of COVID on North New Jersey (NNJ) and NYC agencies, many of which are still open. Rates have either come down or the posted rate is flexible. I don’t like that pricing model, my preference is the rate is the rate.
So many strippers are trying to become Escorts now. One escort at a popular agency whom I text with regularly said no way will rates in the NNJ/NYC area remain what they are (will definitely decrease, and she heard that from a popular agency owner). Less demand, guys working from home unable to break away, risks of infecting family members, etc.
You guys know the Montreal market better than I, but as a NNJ guy, why the hell would I go to Montreal if agencies increase rates given the social distancing policies when being out and about in the city. A lot of NYC area guys likely think the same way I’m sure.
An extra $40-$60 CAD isn’t going to break my bank, but I’m just saying there are a lot more variables to consider here than suggesting rates will increase because girls feel more at risk. The same is true for family guys, and they control the cash.
And if either Toronto or Montreal agencies move to a non-GFE model, the reputations of both cities as popular hobby destinations are finished. I don’t think that will happen, though there were some suggestions on TERB.
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It will open soon guys. June will slowly see a return of the activity. With more and more all summer.
We will slowly need to learn to live with the risk of the virus. It's simply a fact of life for a year or 2. We may have to go back in confinement at some point if our hospital get too much patients.
One on one will certainly present a risk. Good thing is it's less problematic to find an excuse if you bring back coronavirus to your wife then syphilis
We will slowly need to learn to live with the risk of the virus. It's simply a fact of life for a year or 2. We may have to go back in confinement at some point if our hospital get too much patients.
One on one will certainly present a risk. Good thing is it's less problematic to find an excuse if you bring back coronavirus to your wife then syphilis
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Coronavirus: When can I date, have sex with someone new again? - National | Globalnews.ca
Kissing or having sex with a new partner is effectively the same as "combining households," experts say, and it can be risky right now.
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"There’s not much evidence that COVID-19 is transmitted through sex, Dr. Alon Vaisman, an infection control and infectious diseases physician at Toronto’s University Health Network, previously told Global News.
. . . .
“It would be very unlikely because most respiratory viruses only can infect the respiratory tract, so it wouldn’t likely be secreted in the genital tract,” he said.
However, it is possible to catch the virus if you kiss someone who is infected, so to play it safe, O’Reilly recommends turning up the heat over video chat."
I think prices will remain the same or drop, especially for multi hour appointments. Supply and demand, it's as simple as that. Strip clubs and massage joints will most likely be the last to open. But agencies can pretty much start when it's more or less safe to do so. Lot's of strippers, massage workers, and newbies will be flooding the escort agency market that it will be a buyers market. That, with a hopeful downturn in covid cases could make for a very interesting summer.
Jalimon you are more optimistic than me.
Maybe it will open soon. I'm hoping for June 24, it's Quebec Day.
Another month, my last meeting dates back to the beginning of March, I am still able to wait.
But I can't wait to have a softer hand to masturbate. At the beginning I will go very slowly and if all goes well I will resume my rhythm from before, probably not before September, October, hoping that there will not be a 2nd wave.
I am lucky to live alone, it should be a little less risky.
Quickly a vaccin.
Maybe it will open soon. I'm hoping for June 24, it's Quebec Day.
Another month, my last meeting dates back to the beginning of March, I am still able to wait.
But I can't wait to have a softer hand to masturbate. At the beginning I will go very slowly and if all goes well I will resume my rhythm from before, probably not before September, October, hoping that there will not be a 2nd wave.
I am lucky to live alone, it should be a little less risky.
Quickly a vaccin.
There will be a new type of CV safe GFE......let`s call it SafeGFE.CV .
There will obviously be no kissing and a mandatory shower before the encounter.
Both parties will wear masks , but not necessarily at the same time. While 1 partner performs oral sex the other will wear a mask. During FS , both parties will wear masks and certain positions like mish will not be allowed. You can`t scream too hard while cuming.
There will obviously be no kissing and a mandatory shower before the encounter.
Both parties will wear masks , but not necessarily at the same time. While 1 partner performs oral sex
the other will wear a mask. During FS , both parties will wear masks and certain positions like mish will not be allowed. You can`t scream too hard while cuming.
In a normal market economy, supply and demand will always dictate prices, but this may not be a normal market's economy as an SP is including in the price the risk to herself of working. I would compare the pricing to that of a contract mercenary or hit man. These contractors are being paid, in part, for assuming a risk of personal harm, capture, imprisonment and/or possibly even death. From that standpoint, the personal risk taken by an SP, if assumed, must be compensated for. This is eminently fair. However, countervailing that price factor is the factor of low demand which, perhaps, is offset by reduced supply. Only the legendary economics professor Jerry Sazama could hazard a guess as to which of these economic forces will prevail and where the final market price point will fall. And if Jerry were here, he would be more than happy to take a crack at it.
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Yes understood would you support you favorite sw at double the cost todayThe situation in Germany is as one would expect.
The advantage has turned significantly to independent escorts, who are of course difficult to monitor.
The German government is one of the few in the world favoring fixed-place establishments as the venue for commercial sex to occur.
From the perspective of the sex worker, that provides some efficiency and arguably some greater safety, but it puts a lot of trust in the government. As of now, brothels and FKKs are not on the reopening list, and one brothel has filed a lawsuit about that. As part of the lawsuit, the German sex work trade association has put out a reopening plan. It is quite draconian in that it does not allow oral sex. That is the way many of us get an erection, so I can’t personally imagine a session like what is described. Also, they seem to be suggesting data collection for contact tracing, which is certain to be unpopular amongst customers.
So soll Prostitution trotz Corona möglich sein
Abstand von 1,5 Meter, kein Körperkontakt und Maske tragen: Das sind nur eini...www.t-online.de
The article is in a German, so here is the Google Translate text:
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Minimum distance of 1.5 meters, no physical contact and wear mouth and nose protection: these are just a few of the current corona rules of conduct. Sex with strangers? Hard to imagine with these measures. Or is it?
It is true that many companies can now gradually reopen if the distance and hygiene rules are observed. However, these measures seem to be hardly feasible in the sex industry, which primarily offers body-related services. So that the escort service, prostitution and other sexual services can work even in times of Corona, the hygiene concept of the professional association should show erotic and sexual services (BesD). It lists requirements that should apply to sex work in the apartment as well as on the street as well as for the escort service.
Only two
If you like to live out your erotic fantasies with several sex workers, you have to do without the implementation. Because in the future, erotic services will only take place between two people. At least that's the hygiene concept.
Sex with mouth-nose coverage
A mouth-and-nose cover must always be worn at the meeting. These can be dispensed with during the preliminary discussion if the minimum distance of 1.5 meters is maintained. During the erotic service, however, it must be put on again. You cannot take it off - except to change it if it is wet, explains sex worker Undine de Rivière from Hamburg t-online.de. However, this eliminates oral practices or "face-to-face services" such as kissing or oral sex. Neither should the cover be removed in the bath or whirlpool.
Keep your distance - also during sex
In order to reduce the risk of infection with the coronavirus in spite of the covering of the mouth and nose, a distance of at least one forearm length "should be maintained" during the erotic service.
Disinfection after the act
Even after the act, infection with body fluids should be avoided as far as possible. Surfaces, utensils and textiles should be cleaned and disinfected immediately. However, this approach is already a common practice in the industry to reduce the risk of contracting sexually transmitted diseases and other pathogens, according to the BesD. What is new is that the premises now have to be cleaned and ventilated accordingly.
No special rules for regular customers
Another big change that the concept provides for sex work is that anonymity has been partially removed. Because in order to be able to trace possible infection chains, the contact details of all customers should be kept for at least four weeks after the meeting. This also applies to regular customers. "It is very clear that the measures to curb the pandemic [...] must be taken seriously. If that means giving up completely anonymous sexual encounters for a while, it is a longer-term general ban on sex work, also from the whole of society View is absolutely preferable, "said the sex worker.
The end of the street line?
The concept of the BesD also foresees serious changes for the street line. Prostitutes who earn their living this way should also stick to the additional hygiene measures. Above all, this includes wearing the nose and throat covering - both for yourself and on the part of the customer - and the refusal of facial, erotic or oral services. The customer's contact details should also be written down in advance and kept for a correspondingly long time. However, the professional association also knows that this would eliminate the anonymity with which the street line is frequented.
Fines for those who refused?
As in everyday life, sex work will result in customers not taking the measures seriously or even refusing them, the BesD suspects. A fine for violations is not yet envisaged. However, the sex workers would be able to react accordingly, says de Rivière. Customers may be rejected.
Do the rules make sex work difficult?
The professional association has developed the hygiene concept for erotic services during the current corona situation in cooperation with several health authorities.
The end of the street line?
The concept of the BesD also foresees serious changes for the street line. Prostitutes who earn their living this way should also stick to the additional hygiene measures. Above all, this includes wearing the nose and throat covering - both for yourself and on the part of the customer - and the refusal of facial, erotic or oral services. The customer's contact details should also be written down in advance and kept for a correspondingly long time. However, the professional association also knows that this would eliminate the anonymity with which the street line is frequented.
Fines for those who refused?
As in everyday life, sex work will result in customers not taking the measures seriously or even refusing them, the BesD suspects. A fine for violations is not yet envisaged. However, the sex workers would be able to react accordingly, says de Rivière. Customers may be rejected.
Do the rules make sex work difficult?
The professional association has developed the hygiene concept for erotic services during the current corona situation in cooperation with several health authorities.”
Great, thanks for the info.
Wow, the Germans are self-explanatory.
So in conclusion: no kissing and oral sex. You can have sex but avoid face-to-face. So we can practice full of position, the doggy will be considered because the two partners will be able to keep their masks.
Wow, the Germans are self-explanatory.
So in conclusion: no kissing and oral sex. You can have sex but avoid face-to-face. So we can practice full of position, the doggy will be considered because the two partners will be able to keep their masks.
I'm gonna go with supply and demand. Girls can charge more now because not many of them are working and there are some real horny ass guys willing to pay a premium for it. Most of them are indy's because the agencies aren't up and running yet. But, the way I see it is that the market will change when the quarantine restrictions ease for the better, at least better for me, more supply. Both demand and supply will increase, but I see the supply increasing so much more than the demand. It's about jobs/money. Everyone is in need of cash. Nothing has been open for business so you'll see an increase of newbie girls (supply) flooding the market to try to make up for the lost income. Strip clubs and massage joints have been closed for months as well and some or many of those girls will cross over to the agencies (more supply). Then you'll have the girls that were already at the agency in the first place and they will come back as well. Prices will probably not come down, but maybe there will be multi hour discounts instead. But the supply should be high for at least the foreseeable future. Girls, girls girls!
I don`t know where you are finding this absurd information. Dump searching on LL or other junk sites.
From what I see with popular girls, in Montreal or Ottawa, is that prices and service are staying the same or going up by 10 to15%
And yes your grandfathered price may be a thing of the past.
I bet if you know where to look you`ll be able to find popular ex-agency girls doing freelance at 250 to 300 per hour. Some might even book and pay for a hotel.
I'm talking independant providers not agencies many girls are no longer offering 1 hr bookings 2hrs or more making it double the cost look at Indy girls for example.
Im pretty sure the prices will skyrocket and that most of the girls will try to keep providing Internet services. Onlyfans and premium snapchat are very lucrative for them and they dont need to work as hard.
I would say that the escort world is quite doomed in the long term.
I dont know if you guys are aware of the "Simp" concept but its quite a huge phenomenon these days and its not going to stop anytime soon.
I would say that the escort world is quite doomed in the long term.
I dont know if you guys are aware of the "Simp" concept but its quite a huge phenomenon these days and its not going to stop anytime soon.
From the posts here I sense shock and denial over the impact of Covid 19. What can be expected is a vast reduction in supply, a vast reduction in demand, a premium built into the price due to the risk factor of working, and an array of SPs and SBs offering online arrangements. This is the new reality and it is here for a year or more unless a vaccine is discovered.
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