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EagerBeaver

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no need to call your lawyer as literally she won’t come back, and she won’t be able to pay. call police to report and your insurance company instead.
If he makes an insurance claim for trashed TVs and new furniture she purchased, it's insurance fraud, although it would probably never get that far as they will ask FN for purchase receipts etc. for those items she purchased, and he does not have them.

If she is reported as a missing person, or turns up dead, he may get a visit from the police whether he calls them or not. There is a paper trail leading back to him. Assuming the Montreal police actually investigates missing person reports, certainly a cop assigned to the file will want to ask her landlord when he last saw her, etc. For those reasons as well as terminating the lease, it's wise to have an attorney at one's side. Will she come back? Who knows, but if she does, she will have a leasehold interest in the property if it has not been terminated. Maybe she does not know third parties trashed the place?

One issue in terminating the lease is serving notice of the termination. In Connecticut, this is done by serving a notice to quit in hand or at last known address. Not sure of the law on that in Montreal. That part could be tricky.. The lease may specify a manner of termination and FN's attorney might not be able to follow it if they do not know where she is.
 
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If he makes an insurance claim for trashed TVs and new furniture she purchased, it's insurance fraud, although it would probably never get that far as they will ask FN for purchase receipts etc. for those items she purchased, and he does not have them.

If she is reported as a missing person, or turns up dead, he may get a visit from the police whether he calls them or not. There is a paper trail leading back to him. Assuming the Montreal police actually investigates missing person reports, certainly a cop assigned to the file will want to ask her landlord when he last saw her, etc. For those reasons as well as terminating the lease, it's wise to have an attorney at one's side. Will she come back? Who knows, but if she does, she will have a leasehold interest in the property if it has not been terminated. Maybe she does not know third parties trashed the place?

One issue in terminating the lease is serving notice of the termination. In Connecticut, this is done by serving a notice to quit in hand or at last known address. Not sure of the law on that in Montreal. That part could be tricky.. The lease may specify a manner of termination and FN's attorney might not be able to follow it if they do not know where she is.
Yes, here is about the same, we have to serve her at her last know place. I have to know what to do in this situation therefore a local lawyer has to be contact.

from what I can tell she give up the place last week and the door was damaged and unlocked for a week. Therefore any of her belongings missing won’t be my problem.
 

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from what I can tell she give up the place last week and the door was damaged and unlocked for a week. Therefore any of her belongings missing won’t be my problem.
Good point but I would make sure to take photos of the door so you can prove damage/unlocked status of entryway in case this ever becomes an issue in Court.
 

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As for whom I suspect destroyed the apartment:

1) her drug dealer
2) a jealous former boyfriend

If it’s #2 i wonder if the father of one of her kids may be a suspect? If so & the fathers are different people i’d take a very close look at the father of the youngest child.

Good luck, FN.
 
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[QUOTE="EagerBeaver, post: 1446238, member: 489"] Good point but I would make sure to take photos of the door so you can prove damage/unlocked status of entryway in case this ever becomes an issue in Court. [/QUOTE] I make a point of call a driver to drive me to the location in these kind situation. The driver will serve as a witness
 

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Update:

Today my insurance company has send their people to check out the damage. They have confirmed that no one dead in the place…
 
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Hum….I´my surprised nobody has pinpoint mental disorder…
To mutilate / Trash a place like this … something is going wrong.in your head.
So fucked up, pain has to come out so here’s the result…
 
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what real driven her to this point?
I saw the photo of her kids, two beautiful girls, just laying on top of a pill of trash, like something that has being given up at last…
Just curious, how old is this lady? With kids, my first impression is that she is in her late 20s or 30s. At that age, hopefully she's more mature but you never know.
 

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This looks very typical of what peoples you own money to could do. I never understood the logic. They would be better just taking the stuff instead to at least pay some of the debt but i supose they think its some form of payback since you didn't paid? Anyway. Could be that.

But the graffiti tend to show more of a jealous ex boyfriend or such. I don't think collectors would tag slurs on the wall.

Now i hope this person is ok and can turn her life around.

This is not the first time i will say this but yes the darkside of the business exist. I try to stay away as much as possible from it but sometimes you just can't know. You say that SP was very popular, charging a lot, i assume she was known as a high end indy merb advertiser, so someone i could had very well met and never suspected to be into this... That said, there is a bad side in just about everything. I am personally at peace of mind with myself and what i do. I pay money for a service that is consensual between 2 adults. If that person was not a young attractive women, and a guy instead, maybe they would resort to crime to pay their drug, or just end up on the street. Did the work itself lead to this? Possible. But there is numerous stories of celebrity falling into drugs and issues because they had the money for it at the time.

My point is, if its really working as an escort that "mentality broke her", its sad and i wish she could had just leave the job before it got to this point, but its not a certainity at all, maybe she just liked partying and drugs and thats what caused her decline.
 

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... Did the work itself lead to this? Possible. But there is numerous stories of celebrity falling into drugs and issues because they had the money for it at the time.

My point is, if its really working as an escort that "mentality broke her", its sad and i wish she could had just leave the job before it got to this point, but its not a certainity at all, maybe she just liked partying and drugs and thats what caused her decline.

My 2 cents: If I thought being a prostitute, just in itself, caused people to turn to drugs, I wouldn't be a client. But the money coming in must increase temptation.
 
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Even better is to stop seeing SP's and fueling their life style and addictions.
Nothing wrong in getting a regular job like the rest of the men and women in this world.
I’ll have you know that some of us used to have careers. In my case.. I had a car accident and this allows me to work on my own schedule and not be bent over patients mouths all day in the same position. It also gives me financial freedom. Trust me I’m not an addict and I don’t drink alcohol unless I’m on vacation in another country! Don’t try to group us all into the same category! That’s ignorant.
 

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Doh! Speculation. All speculation. I mean even Forever Newbi doesn't know the full story except that he is on the receiving end of a pretty big mess.
 
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This idea of "the sinful prostitute" is one of the reasons these horrible events happen. The writing of "PUTE" is a pretty good display of this. Some clients project their own shame of seeing escorts onto the escorts and other clients. In reality, it's isolation, alienation, social stigma, a sense of shame, loneliness, overwork, boredom, being a dentist, etc that are consistent factors in addiction.
 
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I’ll have you know that some of us used to have careers. In my case.. I had a car accident and this allows me to work on my own schedule and not be bent over patients mouths all day in the same position. It also gives me financial freedom. Trust me I’m not an addict and I don’t drink alcohol unless I’m on vacation in another country! Don’t try to group us all into the same category! That’s ignorant.
I agree and relate to everything. Being SP is a dream job for me. Flexibility, safety, fun, financial freedom, discoveries. I don’t think I will find another career that will offer this much.
 

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They aren’t all the same.

Few of the Montreal independents with their own websites, or the ladies who have consistently worked for the agencies who advertise on Merb, fall into the stereotypes described in this thread.

It would be interesting if the forever newbi would tell us if she was someone who tended to advertise on LeoList, Humpchies, etc.
I agree there are some that have perfectly good careers and do this on the side for all the extra comforts in life and to be able to be completely independent
They are smart and can carve out a very comfortable lifestyle, but yes you have the other side as well.
I would not put all SP in the same category, but I would agree that there are many that do this out of necessity and don’t like what they are doing and then turn to drugs or alcohol or both to make it through the day.
 
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