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Jazzman1218

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Those 74 million “ cult members” are Americans, perhaps this is why the US is so divided, because as usual Democrats think they are so much more intelligent and better than their neighbours lol.
Not all of his voters are in the MAGA cult, but the majority are. If you haven't been to a trump rally you got a taste of one if you watched trump's debate performance. It's all about grievances, disinformation, insults, hate, fear and how only the "strongman" can "fix it". We all should be better, and smarter, than that. Time to reject demagoguery and authoritarianism.
 
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In my opinion, if they really wanted to win for sure, they just have to find a beter candidate then Harris. She doesn't have the strength and the power to get the attention the americain population are looking for the coming election, and especially to lead a country that big.
Also remember one thing, the Biden/Harris administration are affiliated with the World Economic Forum and black rock corporations.
Be serious, is that what America really needs ?
The way I see it is they have the choice between "bad or worst". How come there is nothing else to choose from ?
They had GFK Jr. As independent for a while, but he retracted after he got enough voters and now he think he did put an advantage towards Trump sides. Only time will tell I guess.

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In my opinion, if they really wanted to win for sure, they just have to find a beter candidate then Harris. She doesn't have the strength and the power to get the attention the americain population are looking for the coming election, and especially to lead a country that big.
Also remember one thing, the Biden/Harris administration are affiliated with the World Economic Forum and black rock corporations.
Be serious, is that what America really needs ?
The way I see it is they have the choice between "bad or worst". How come there is nothing else to choose from ?
They had GFK Jr. As independent for a while, but he retracted after he got enough voters and now he think he did put an advantage towards Trump sides. Only time will tell I guess.

Steve.
Yes. Compared to what trump has to offer Harris is, by far, the better choice. Once the country rejects trump again, hopefully the Republican party will eventually return to its former self and give Americans a choice between principled conservatives and principled liberals.
 
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hopefully the Republican party will eventually return to its former self and give Americans a choice between principled conservatives and principled liberals.
You know that will never happen, once elected they will think... "they vote for me, now I can do whatever I want" mindset
 

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If I was voting, the ONLY thing that would matter is this:

Were my finances better 2016-2020? were my expenses lower, was inflation lower? Were gas prices lower? were there less people crossing the border illegally? or Was it better from 2020-2024. That's it, that's all. I wouldn't give a fuck about either candidate's ethnic background, their age, their debate performances or anything else. Those would be my parameters. That's why I think in the end, Trump will win.
 
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You know that will never happen, once elected they will think... "they vote for me, now I can do whatever I want" mindset
That's a pessimistic view that I do not share. We get the leaders that we vote into office for a limited term of service. As long as you can maintain a democracy, the people can vote bad leaders out of office. If you elect an aspiring authoritarian, the people may lose the ability to vote out bad leaders.
 
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If I was voting, the ONLY thing that would matter is this:

Were my finances better 2016-2020? were my expenses lower, was inflation lower? Were gas prices lower? were there less people crossing the border illegally? or Was it better from 2020-2024. That's it, that's all. I wouldn't give a fuck about either candidate's ethnic background, their age, their debate performances or anything else. Those would be my parameters. That's why I think in the end, Trump will win.

So you think USA is a closed environment economically and the politicians control everything. Have you heard of Covid ?
The Republicans in the House at the order of Trump killed a bi-partisan bill to help control immigration at the Southern border, for what ? Favoring Trump in the November election.
 

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Not true. The president can impose his own bill especially owning the house and the senate. Biden/Kamala's 4 years were disastrous, everyone knows that. The world is on fire right now with those 2 in charge, you have to admit it wasn't under Trump.
 
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Not true. The president can impose his own bill especially owning the house and the senate. Biden/Kamala's 4 years were disastrous, everyone knows that. The world is on fire right now with those 2 in charge, you have to admit it wasn't under Trump.

So you think the US president run the entire planet ?
If that was the case, there wouldn't have been World war 1, World war 2, Vietnam war, Corean war, Israel numerous wars, etc.
Oh yes you will say every other countries chiefs were afraid of Trump.
Possibly you're right, they knew he had the nuclear attacks code !
 

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Not true. The president can impose his own bill especially owning the house and the senate. Biden/Kamala's 4 years were disastrous, everyone knows that. The world is on fire right now with those 2 in charge, you have to admit it wasn't under Trump.
A President is not responsible just for their time in office but the time afterwards as well. You can't build a sturdy house if the foundation is shit.
 
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So you think the US president run the entire planet ?
If that was the case, there wouldn't have been World war 1, World war 2, Vietnam war, Corean war, Israel numerous wars, etc.
Oh yes you will say every other countries chiefs were afraid of Trump.
Possibly you're right, they knew he had the nuclear attacks code !
Everyone said if Trump was elected he would start WW3. Funny how the exact opposite happened. Don't always believe the media, they have their own agenda.
 
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Everyone said if Trump was elected he would start WW3. Funny how the exact opposite happened. Don't always believe the media, they have their own agenda.
"Everyone" did not say that. What we were (and still are) warning about is giving control of our nuclear arsenal to an unfit, unqualified, unpredictable, unmoored, and revengful president. A president so unsound and uninformed that he could stumble into a nuclear conflict by a series of miscalculations.
 

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That's a poor excuse. Just look at his 2016-2020 record. He's smarter than you think. And yes, the entire left media was saying Trump would start WW3.
 

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"Everyone" did not say that. What we were (and still are) warning about is giving control of our nuclear arsenal to an unfit, unqualified, unpredictable, unmoored, and revengful president. A president so unsound and uninformed that he could stumble into a nuclear conflict by a series of miscalculations.

Partilarly now that he has at his side Laura Loomer, a nut job worst than him.
A young pretty woman conspirationist that say that 2001 9 11th terrorist attacks were inside jobs.
Even MTG and other Republicans say she's crazy.
Perhaps she take the place of Melania in some ways !
 
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In my opinion, if they really wanted to win for sure, they just have to find a beter candidate then Harris. She doesn't have the strength and the power to get the attention the americain population are looking for the coming election, and especially to lead a country that big.
Also remember one thing, the Biden/Harris administration are affiliated with the World Economic Forum and black rock corporations.
Be serious, is that what America really needs ?
The way I see it is they have the choice between "bad or worst". How come there is nothing else to choose from ?
They had GFK Jr. As independent for a while, but he retracted after he got enough voters and now he think he did put an advantage towards Trump sides. Only time will tell I guess.

Steve.
There is. Chase Oliver of the LIbertarian Party but people are too stuck on Democrats vs Republicans. Only Chase Oliver is for the individual, he will cut taxes, he will stop printing bills to send to Ukraine and other foreign countries, freedom which means legalized prostitution, no more involvement in endless foreign wars, no carbon tax. This guy would make the best president. Inflation and taxes will go down. But people are still stuck on Democrats and Republicans. Both force their views on others, both want to tax and spend others peoples money, both are involved in endless foreign wars.
 
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There is. Chase Oliver of the LIbertarian Party but people are too stuck on Democrats vs Republicans. Only Chase Oliver is for the individual, he will cut taxes, he will stop printing bills to send to Ukraine and other foreign countries, freedom which means legalized prostitution, no more involvement in endless foreign wars, no carbon tax. This guy would make the best president. Inflation and taxes will go down. But people are still stuck on Democrats and Republicans. Both force their views on others, both want to tax and spend others peoples money, both are involved in endless foreign wars.
+1 I think anyone not voting for Chase is ignorant and not voting in the best interests of the USA. Enough with partisan politics, let's get some people elected who will focus on problem solving rather than "toeing the party line" like all Democrat and Republicans do. Let's stop electing puppets of a party agenda! Enough is enough!
 
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Jazzman1218

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+1 I think anyone not voting for Chase is ignorant and not voting in the best interests of the USA. Enough with partisan politics, let's get some people elected who will focus on problem solving rather than "toeing the party line" like all Democrat and Republicans do. Let's stop electing puppets of a party agenda! Enough is enough!
The Libertarian candidate will get their usual 1% to 2% of the vote. That doesn't make 98% or 99% of us "ignorant" or not voting "in the best interests of the USA". There's no country in the world that I know of that is governed by Libertarians. Maybe there's a good reason for that. I don't know. Perhaps Libertarians worldwide should band together and start their own country and teach the world a lesson about governance. LOL.
 
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