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To me the biggest problem with Harris is we do not know who or what she is, except that there was revolving door of her personal staff while serving as VP, which to me is an ominous sign that she is difficult to work with. People don't just resign plum jobs like that unless their boss is unbearable to work for. I am stunned by some of the drooling, obsequious posts in this thread, praising Harris based on absolutely nothing.
 
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To me the biggest problem with Harris is we do not know who or what she is, except that there was revolving door of her personal staff while serving as VP, which to me is an ominous sign that she is difficult to work with. People don't just resign plum jobs like that unless their boss is unbearable to work for. I am stunned by some of the drooling, obsequious posts in this thread, praising Harris based on absolutely nothing.
Yet you appear to be okay with the exceptionally high attrition rate during the trump administration. And how many of trump"s ex-cabinet members are endorsing him now? Any? Even his ex-VP isn't.
 

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Yet you appear to be okay with the exceptionally high attrition rate during the trump administration. And how many of trump"s ex-cabinet members are endorsing him now? Any? Even his ex-VP isn't.
I am not OK with Trump nor am I OK with not having an alternative choice. That's the point. I am focused on what has Harris done to earn my vote and those who are not decided, and not on Trump, and don't just fawn and drool over someone who is a media darling like a robotic sheep. The point is what has she done to earn votes of those who aren't committed? Nothing. You obviously believe votes don't need to be earned. I think they need to be earned.
 
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The Associated Press has posted a recap of the lies and deceptions that all the suckers in this thread fell for with this FACT FOCUS:
Simply put, we are being lied to, and it's very disturbing to me to see such lies being condoned and promoted in this thread.
 

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The Associated Press has posted a recap of the lies and deceptions that all the suckers in this thread fell for with this FACT FOCUS:
Simply put, we are being lied to, and it's very disturbing to me to see such lies being condoned and promoted in this thread.
You are being lied to by trump. Lies and insults are all that come out of his mouth.
 

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I am not OK with Trump nor am I OK with not having an alternative choice. That's the point. I am focused on what has Harris done to earn my vote and those who are not decided, and not on Trump, and don't just fawn and drool over someone who is a media darling like a robotic sheep. The point is what has she done to earn votes of those who aren't committed? Nothing. You obviously believe votes don't need to be earned. I think they need to be earned.
Harris has a lifetime of public service from prosecutor to DA to AG to Senator to VP. She has hope and optimism about America. She's the antithesis of trump. If that's no enough to earn your vote maybe your vote is not earnable.
 
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maybe your vote is not earnable.
It's not unearnable. It's difficult to earn. Jo Jorgensen earned my vote and then received it in 2020. She had actual positions on issues, like replacing social security with IRAs via an opt out. Neither you nor any other poster here has been able to tell us where Harris is on the issues, because nobody knows where she is. However not even admitting that the revolving door on her personal staff is a red flag is incredible. It's never been explained and she needs to explain it. Why would young ambitious persons receiving plum jobs working for the VP of the U.S. suddenly resign those jobs in numbers? This hasn't ever been explained and you are only wanting to talk about Trump and his administration? Are you kidding me? This "let's ignore Kamala's warts because the alternative is Trump" attitude is shocking. You ask questions about your candidates if you are any right minded person. Let her explain what happened. Hopefully it comes up in the debates or a one on one with her and we finally hear it.
 
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It's not unearnable. It's difficult to earn. Jo Jorgensen earned my vote and then received it in 2020. She had actual positions on issues, like replacing social security with IRAs via an opt out. Neither you nor any other poster here has been able to tell us where Harris is on the issues, because nobody knows where she is. However not even admitting that the revolving door on her personal staff is a red flag is incredible. It's never been explained and she needs to explain it. Why would young ambitious persons receiving plum jobs working for the VP of the U.S. suddenly resign those jobs in numbers? This hasn't ever been explained and you are only wanting to talk about Trump and his administration? Are you kidding me? This "let's ignore Kamala's warts because the alternative is Trump" attitude is shocking. You ask questions about your candidates if you are any right minded person. Let her explain what happened. Hopefully it comes up in the debates or a one on one with her and we finally hear it.
Harris has only been running for president for one month. It takes time to get her message and policy positions out to voters. She certainly has made her position on women's reproductive rights, immigration, and law and order clear. Give her time to promulgate policy positions, to be interviewed by the media, and to debate her opponent.
 
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To me the biggest problem with Harris is we do not know who or what she is, except that there was revolving door of her personal staff while serving as VP, which to me is an ominous sign that she is difficult to work with. People don't just resign plum jobs like that unless their boss is unbearable to work for. I am stunned by some of the drooling, obsequious posts in this thread, praising Harris based on absolutely nothing.
Some have listened very carefully yesterday....and know her better.......and some praise her on what she said ON ISSUES.....not based on absolutely nothing.....lol....and she will earn and fight for each vote....and win......and btw can't wait for the debates.....
 

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I still can't get over the fact Kamala all of a sudden is the savior. Think back a month ago, Joe was fine, Joe was the man, Joe was coherent. Now, kamala is great, Kamala is the savior...Come on guys, doesn't everyone realize the media influences everyone to think and act their way?? It's so obvious. If she's so great why hasn't she done anything in the past 3 years? Prior to booting Joe, kamala had the lowest VP rating in US history! I wouldn't want either candidate to lead my country but I'll take Trump over Kamala any day of the week.
I completely agree all these questions are legit but you’ll never get an honest and logical answer here.
The Democrats are like weathercock they strictly follow their favorite left wing media narrative of the moment even if it’s makes absolutely no sense look not even 2 months they’ll tell you Joe Biden was a great President next thing you know couple weeks later he’s unfit to be President…
Now just like magic the mediocre at best Vice-President Kamalahahaha has suddenly became the best presidential candidate planet Earth have never seen…
I suspect most Liberals and Democrats have lost their ability to use common sense around 2020, now they rely on the opinion of shorthaired feminist lesbians as their truth.
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I completely agree all these questions are legit but you’ll never get an honest and logical answer here.
The Democrats are like weathercock they strictly follow their favorite left wing media narrative of the moment even if it’s makes absolutely no sense look not even 2 months they’ll tell you Joe Biden was a great President next thing you know couple weeks later he’s unfit to be President…
Now just like magic the mediocre at best Vice-President Kamalahahaha has suddenly became the best presidential candidate planet Earth have never seen…
I suspect most Liberals and Democrats have lost their ability to use common sense around 2020, now they rely on the opinion of shorthaired feminist lesbians as their truth.
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And we left-wing liberals know that right-wing MAGA republicans support a dangerous 'aspiring dictator' who would destroy 248 years of democracy if elected.
 

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Qui veux en bandit, un criminet, un violeur de femmes, un homme qui couche avec des putes sans condom, un homme qui est mentallement malade , un voleur, un mafioso ......à la tête d'un pays ??? Juste la perspective d'un Québécois qui a passé 10 ans au USA à une époque glorieuse 1976-1985.
 

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It's not unearnable. It's difficult to earn. Jo Jorgensen earned my vote and then received it in 2020. She had actual positions on issues, like replacing social security with IRAs via an opt out. Neither you nor any other poster here has been able to tell us where Harris is on the issues, because nobody knows where she is. However not even admitting that the revolving door on her personal staff is a red flag is incredible. It's never been explained and she needs to explain it. Why would young ambitious persons receiving plum jobs working for the VP of the U.S. suddenly resign those jobs in numbers? This hasn't ever been explained and you are only wanting to talk about Trump and his administration? Are you kidding me? This "let's ignore Kamala's warts because the alternative is Trump" attitude is shocking. You ask questions about your candidates if you are any right minded person. Let her explain what happened. Hopefully it comes up in the debates or a one on one with her and we finally hear it.
I brought it up on this board a few times, no one was even interested. Everyone is so stuck on the traditional ways, always either Democrats or Republicans. No one looks at alternatives like Chase Oliver of the Libertarian party. I was for Jo Jorgensen, and I am for Chase Oliver. The Libertarian party is the only sensible option. No taxes, legalized prostitution, end to all government social benefits, no involvement in wars, leaving climate change solutions to the free market vs being imposed forcibly and conning people to add more taxes under the justification of climate change.
 
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And we left-wing liberals know that right-wing MAGA republicans support a dangerous 'aspiring dictator' who would destroy 248 years of democracy if elected.
Explain to us in your own words, how is Trump a dictator?
 
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