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Womaniser

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I agree with this statement. I am an American and a descendant from a family of European immigrants who did very well after coming to the U.S. compared to what they had when they came here. I do believe the U.S. is the land of opportunity and there is no need to emulate other countries or political systems. I think all countries have positive and negatives but I think the U.S. is probably a tremendous net positive as compared to most other countries, and Canada can probably say the same thing.

That being said we can look at and compare some of the positives and negatives as between Canada, the U.S., and the UK. I actually believe all of these nations should look at what is working and what isn't working and find ways to better their systems.

It's my belief that the electoral college and 2 party system need to overhauled and revised.

On a New-York Times interview, Vance refused 5 times to aknowledge that Trump lost the 2020 election, instead trying to bring false accusations of cheating by Democrats.
What a useless human beeing, perfect Trump puppet !
 

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On a New-York Times interview, Vance refused 5 times to aknowledge that Trump lost the 2020 election, instead trying to bring false accusations of cheating by Democrats.
What a useless human beeing, perfect Trump puppet !

Today, Trump held a rally in Colorado and lied about a city that is supposedly overrun by migrant crimes.
His ignorant supprters certainly believed and cheered him !
 
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Today, Trump held a rally in Colorado and lied about a city that is supposedly overrun by migrant crimes.
His ignorant supprters certainly believed and cheered him !

Americans must vote for Trump because if they don't, hundred of millions of dangerous strangers will invade USA.
Believe it, he told it in his rally tonight !
 
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Trump tried and failed to overturn the 2020 election. If in 2024 he tries and succeeds in stealing the election, no American, including representative Raskin, should accept the results.
So what you are saying is (funny callback to that annoying woman who interviewed Jordan Peterson)

Election fraud can be real
If you believe election fraud happened you need to refuse the results

What happens next?
 

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Today, Trump held a rally in Colorado and lied about a city that is supposedly overrun by migrant crimes.
His ignorant supprters certainly believed and cheered him !

So what you are saying is (funny callback to that annoying woman who interviewed Jordan Peterson)

Election fraud can be real
If you believe election fraud happened you need to refuse the results

What happens next?

Very easy, you have to prove it.
A high school kid could have give you that answer !
 

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So what you are saying is (funny callback to that annoying woman who interviewed Jordan Peterson)

Election fraud can be real
If you believe election fraud happened you need to refuse the results

What happens next?

Or you apply Trump recipe of 2020-2021.
From his failed attempt you could apply correctives and succeed !
He had 4 years to correct his mistakes, perhaps he will succeed the second time.
 
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So what you are saying is (funny callback to that annoying woman who interviewed Jordan Peterson)

Election fraud can be real
If you believe election fraud happened you need to refuse the results

What happens next?
You can't just "believe" the election was stolen. There has to be credible evidence. It has to be proven. Just saying it, and repeating it, is not evidence or proof. Trump tried unsuccessfully to overturn the results of a free and fair election without evidence and without proof and has been indicted for his actions.
 

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Americans must vote for Trump because if they don't, hundred of millions of dangerous strangers will invade USA.
Believe it, he told it in his rally tonight !
With 24 days before the elections his rhetoric is getting more apocalyptic and darker.....as it if were possible....what a sordid character !!!!!!!
 
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Either Donald Trump or Kamala Harris doesn't look good, there is a women at my job who is pro Trump she says that he cares about is country she is Canada but has American citizenship and would like to retire in the US.

She did give positive points about Trump with this woke stupidity and gender , LGBTQ and other stupidity, but for the rest Trump is mental, not sure what he could do to turn things around.

For Harris not sure she is also shady, what is her agenda she was in the white house before she did nothing. Is she going to be another Trudeau like we have here? Sad that the US need to rely on both of them and do not have more competent choices to run a big nation like the US
 

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When TROMP says their are '' a lot of bad genes'' amon migrants....this is the path of fascism....IMO there are also a lot of ''bad genes" among white supremacists.....just saying.
Like In Canada they must control who gets in, migrants are not a bad thing, migrants who are criminals are.
 

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Very well done, Bill Ackman! Excellent summation.

While the 33 actions I describe below are those of the Democratic Party and the Biden/Harris administration, they are also the actions and policies that unfortunately our most aggressive adversaries would likely implement if they wanted to destroy America from within, and had the ability to take control of our leadership.


 

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Like In Canada they must control who gets in, migrants are not a bad thing, migrants who are criminals are.
All migrants who crossed the border illegally are criminals by the definition of the law. In many countries this is a serious criminal offence resulting in a jail term. All legal emigrants are wetted against their criminal history in the home country. Any brash with the law including DUI make them inadmissible. Exemption is given to people who were prosecuted for political reasons, and they are usually given a refugee status.
 

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Either Donald Trump or Kamala Harris doesn't look good, there is a women at my job who is pro Trump she says that he cares about is country she is Canada but has American citizenship and would like to retire in the US.

She did give positive points about Trump with this woke stupidity and gender , LGBTQ and other stupidity, but for the rest Trump is mental, not sure what he could do to turn things around.

For Harris not sure she is also shady, what is her agenda she was in the white house before she did nothing. Is she going to be another Trudeau like we have here? Sad that the US need to rely on both of them and do not have more competent choices to run a big nation like the US

Either Donald Trump or Kamala Harris doesn't look good, there is a women at my job who is pro Trump she says that he cares about is country she is Canada but has American citizenship and would like to retire in the US.

She did give positive points about Trump with this woke stupidity and gender , LGBTQ and other stupidity, but for the rest Trump is mental, not sure what he could do to turn things around.

For Harris not sure she is also shady, what is her agenda she was in the white house before she did nothing. Is she going to be another Trudeau like we have here? Sad that the US need to rely on both of them and do not have more competent choices to run a big nation like the US

She was vice-President not President.
What did Pence do during 4 years ?
 

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She was vice-President not President.
What did Pence do during 4 years ?
I am more concern about here in Canada but what ever happens in the US will affect us in Canada too so.... any which way its not looking good.
 

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Amanda Vosch is one of the few persons who isn't posting nonsense in this thread. The Americans who will vote for TRUMP will do so for some combination of the 33 reasons posted in this Twitter post which is calm, well reasoned, and defining. Nobody here is really discussing or dealing with these issues:
The Canadians discussing the election in this thread, while offering alternately amusing and interesting perspectives, do not understand what most Americans expect of their leaders.

A long time ago the political genius Jim Carville said: "it's the economy, stupid!"
 
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Amanda Vosch is one of the few persons who isn't posting nonsense in this thread. The Americans who will vote for TRUMP will do so for some combination of the 33 reasons posted in this Twitter post which is calm, well reasoned, and defining. Nobody here is really discussing or dealing with these issues:
The Canadians discussing the election in this thread, while offering alternately amusing and interesting perspectives, do not understand what most Americans expect of their leaders.

A long time ago the political genius Jim Carville said: "it's the economy, stupid!"
Nonsense? Watch a trump rally if you want to see true nonsense. Then there's being impeached twice, indicated four times, convicted of fraud, found civilly liable for sexual assault, botched response to covid, trying to overturn the results of a free and fair election, and continuing to lie about losing the election that further divides the country and brings us closer to a violent confrontation.
 

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Bill Ackman has provided a devastating list of issues with the Democrats that made him switch his vote.

There are for sure issues with Trump but a stronger response would have been to address those. Do you disagree with his list Jazzman?
It's his list and he's entitled to it, but I find it partisan and unconvincing. Whatever. This is an election about character and democracy. Trump is uniquely unqualified. He is a selfish, criminal, prevaricator, con-man, who want to be a dictator and end 248 years of American democracy.
 

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Ackman is a registered Democrat. How can you say it is partisan? I find your response unconvincing. I find Ackman's post convincing. 33 reasons to change his vote is really a lot.
I don't care how he's registered. His 33 reasons are partisan republican talking points. I've heard them before many times.I don't care who is promoting these partisan talking points, but they mean nothing to me compared to what's really matters - character and democracy.
 
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