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POLL.....REUTERS/IPSOS/ OCT 13......HARRIS 45----TROMP 42....hold on KAMALA...still 21 days to fight for the ultimate victory.!!!!!
The only thing that matters is the actual vote in each of the 7 swing states. Unfortunately, in my deep blue state my vote won't help to decide anything. Remember Hillary won the national vote by ~ 3 million (almost 2 1/2%) yet came up very short in the fucked up Electoral College system.
 

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In case anyone has forgotten, Congressman Adam Schiff (who is running for the US Senate in California) was the lead impeachment manager in trump's first impeachment case and served on the January 6 Select Committee that made 4 criminal referrals on Trump to the DOJ. This is pure revenge and retribution against Schiff and Democrats. That's what authoritarians do. Trump intends to use the military against Americans who oppose him. WAKE UP AMERICA. OUR DEMOCRACY IS AT STAKE.
Americans and Canadians have woke up, my spidey sense is telling me that after the Canadian election we won’t see a Left leaning Government in North America for the remaining of the decade.
It’s gonna be a rude awakening for the southpaws.
Here’s the betting odds from a couple weeks ago for the American election, easy money if you bet on Trump. These are legit unlike the meaningless polls.
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Americans and Canadians have woke up, my spidey sense is telling me that after the Canadian election we won’t see a Left leaning Government in North America for the remaining of the decade.
It’s gonna be a rude awakening for the southpaws.
Here’s the betting odds from a couple weeks ago for the American election, easy money if you bet on Trump. These are legit unlike the meaningless polls.

Agree 99%. Just a small correction: Mexico is in North America too.

As for the betting odds, it is not the numbers themselves that really matter so much, they are still within a narrow range. The trend toward Trump though is clear and unmistakable. Kamablah herself is probably too dumb to realize what's going on, but her handlers are clearly panicking. Who wouldn't in their shoes.
 

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Agree 99%. Just a small correction: Mexico is in North America too.

As for the betting odds, it is not the numbers themselves that really matter so much, they are still within a narrow range. The trend toward Trump though is clear and unmistakable. Kamablah herself is probably too dumb to realize what's going on, but her handlers are clearly panicking. Who wouldn't in their shoes.
They are panicking, and it's being manifested by doubling down on black and minority voters. Which you would presume she will get and doesn't need, but what I read is that she is worried those voters are going over to Trump. She read some poll numbers on it and just flat out overreacted to it, much like Gaby overreacted when she was leading the polls very early in the campaign. I warned Gaby that the more she opens her mouth and talks, the weaker her numbers will get. He didn't listen to me. That's what has ended up happening.
 
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If the justice system worked in USA, Trump would be in jail since at least 2 years not saying hundred lies each day.
Perhaps untrue, when in prison, he will continue to lie, that's what he does best !
Democrats have pushed for no cash bail release of all non-violent offenders even felons. San Francisco and California have been at the forefront of this, so has NY.

It is very heartfelt measure that applies to most people not named Donald Trump :)

Doubt Trump would face jail time having never been convicted of any crime before age 78…
 

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Agree 100% with the esteemed posters above, caps-lock shouting et al. America must WAKE UP and before brushing its teeth (ideally before peeing as well) immediately login to the Montreal hookers' forum and set about saving democracy.

Having said that, it looks like the bookmakers have finally seen the light. Polymarket has it today (Oct 15th) 58--42 in favour of Trump. So the game, as the chess players like it to say, seems to be playing for two results: whether Trump wins rather narrowly (say, 300-350 electoral votes) or by a landslide. Faites vos jeux!

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America is sleep walking into autocracy. A trump/MAGA autocracy will destroy our 248 year democracy and negatively effect the entire free world including Canada. This is a "break glass" moment in the US so "shouting" is called for.

I'm not a gambler, but aren't the "predictive" markets just gambling sites? Don't most gamblers lose?
 

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America is sleep walking into autocracy. A trump/MAGA autocracy will destroy our 248 year democracy and negatively effect the entire free world including Canada. This is a "break glass" moment in the US so "shouting" is called for.

Yep, take a good look at project 2025 and not only that, think about what kind of belief system would produce those kind of regressive policies.

And P2025 is just the start.

A lot of people are blindly relying on the premise "It can't happen here".

Tell that to these women from Afghanistan in the 1970s:

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America is sleep walking into autocracy. A trump/MAGA autocracy will destroy our 248 year democracy and negatively effect the entire free world including Canada. This is a "break glass" moment in the US so "shouting" is called for.

I'm not a gambler, but aren't the "predictive" markets just gambling sites? Don't most gamblers lose?
Oh yes......BUT in that perspective KAMALA is a good bet.... will pay a lot.....and her many fans will b very happy....lollllll
 

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America is sleep walking into autocracy. A trump/MAGA autocracy will destroy our 248 year democracy and negatively effect the entire free world including Canada. This is a "break glass" moment in the US so "shouting" is called for.

I'm not a gambler, but aren't the "predictive" markets just gambling sites? Don't most gamblers lose?
If you know for sure that hysterical yelling in this forum and (perhaps) elsewhere will save our democracy, by all means go for it. And please do some for me too, I am all for democracy myself. Meanwhile, I will spare my throat and rather go for a walk to take in some fresh air, watch the beautiful foliage and otherwise enjoy the last idyllic days of said democracy.

And speaking of gambling... You are right this time, the house always wins. Furthermore, the betting odds don't always pick the winner. Apparently they failed to do so in 2016 when they predicted Hillary's victory. Curiously enough though those wretched losers somehow managed to correctly determine the winners of the other 10 of 11 last presidential elections since 1980. Or so says Newsweek. Go figure.

It's worth noting that the Newsweek article is dated last week and so their "neck and neck" in betting odds is decidedly a thing of the past. As of now (Oct 16th) RCP Average shows 58--41 in favour of Trump. Not yet a total blowout, so don't despair. Things may change -- in either direction.

 
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If you know for sure that hysterical yelling in this forum and (perhaps) elsewhere will save our democracy, by all means go for it. And please do some for me too, I am all for democracy myself. Meanwhile, I will spare my throat and rather go for a walk to take in some fresh air, watch the beautiful foliage and otherwise enjoy the last idyllic days of said democracy.

And speaking of gambling... You are right this time, the house always wins. Furthermore, the betting odds don't always pick the winner. Apparently they failed to do so in 2016 when they predicted Hillary's victory. Curiously enough though those wretched losers somehow managed to correctly determine the winners of the other 10 of 11 last presidential elections since 1980. Or so says Newsweek. Go figure.

It's worth noting that the Newsweek article is dated last week and so their "neck and neck" in betting odds is decidedly a thing of the past. As of now (Oct 16th) RCP Average shows 58--41 in favour of Trump. Not yet a total blowout, so don't despair. Things may change -- in either direction.

Not "hysterical yelling" rather an exhortation considering the seriousness of trump's words that you have conveniently sidestepped. I'd prefer we discuss how his fascist rhetoric endangers 248 years of democracy and not my use of caps.

Hasn't betting odds in presidential elections since 1980 also corresponded with voter polling at that time? I think you will find that to be true with the possible exception of 2000 - an election so close that it was decided by 530 votes in Florida.
 
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Not "hysterical yelling" rather an exhortation considering the seriousness of trump's words that you have conveniently sidestepped. I'd prefer we discuss how his fascist rhetoric endangers 248 years of democracy and not my use of caps.

Hasn't betting odds in presidential elections since 1980 also corresponded with voter polling at that time? I think you will find that to be true with the possible exception of 2000 - an election so close that it was decided by 530 votes in Florida.

The election of 2000 led in the failures in Afghanistan and Iraq - $5.4 trillion spent in the "war on terror" and not even a hill of beans to show for it. Thousands of innocent civillians killed.

How much is a trillion?

Well, a million seconds is about 11 days, 13 hours.

A billion seconds is 31 years, 8 months.

A trillion seconds is 31,710 YEARS.
 

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Epic Clash: Brett Baier vs. Kamala Harris

At least she had the balls to go to a 100% republican network.
Something that her rival shit in his pants just at the thoughts of beeing subjected to, even a neutral network.
Remember her 60 minutes interview where Trump refused to
 

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I do give Harris credit for allowing herself to be grilled, but the truth is she didn't agree to this until the polls tightened up like on her like a monkey wrench. Some might view it as a panicked move
 

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At least she had the balls to go to a 100% republican network.
Something that her rival shit in his pants just at the thoughts of beeing subjected to, even a neutral network.
Remember her 60 minutes interview where Trump refused to

Sorry, my post was sent incomplete.
I wrote at the end about Harris interview on CBS 60 minute interview where Trump refused because he would have been facts checked.
He would have been able to speak less than half the time.
He is used to be non fact checked in his rallies and friendly TV chains.
 

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