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Seems Obama was President and he was black so your racist angle is not that solid.
So now it is racism and misogyny that put Trump in power.
No it is actually $$$$ and the Dems smug elitist bullshit and disdain for the middle class that put Trump in power and they still haven’t learned not to crap on the average American and call him an uneducated moron because all he is worried about is putting food on the table and a roof over his head and not so much about pronouns and being politically correct.

You are right about one thing both times Trump ran against the worst and most unpopular women the Dems could have chosen
Hillary was a smug full of herself elitist who thought the poor and the middle class were all morons and Kamala was a cackling hyena who was a DEI candidate that made a fool of herself eveytime she got up to speak.
Obama was a great speaker and had charisma. He was also America's first chance to elect a black President. That got Dem voters out in force. My point is that that success pissed off a lot of racists that previously didn't much care and didn't vote. Once they were "disrespected" by having a Black President, they got much more involved. They didn't want to see it happen again and saw it as an insult.

Misogyny is much more present in America (and the world) than racism. Neither side is immune, though the Right are definitely much more susceptible. Your only complaints about Kamala seem to be that she laughs too much and was DEI (AKA - not a white man), yet you prefer the rapist over her. Hillary... I can't fault you for disliking her.

If you think the Right gives any more fucks about the middle class than the Left do, I've got a bridge to sell you.
 

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Obama was a great speaker and had charisma. He was also America's first chance to elect a black President. That got Dem voters out in force. My point is that that success pissed off a lot of racists that previously didn't much care and didn't vote. Once they were "disrespected" by having a Black President, they got much more involved. They didn't want to see it happen again and saw it as an insult.

Misogyny is much more present in America (and the world) than racism. Neither side is immune, though the Right are definitely much more susceptible. Your only complaints about Kamala seem to be that she laughs too much and was DEI (AKA - not a white man), yet you prefer the rapist over her. Hillary... I can't fault you for disliking her.

If you think the Right gives any more fucks about the middle class than the Left do, I've got a bridge to sell you.
You still haven’t figured out that I am not for the right or the left no matter how many times I repeat that politicians are the most vile creatures on the planet, they will wear what ever hat and colour that will put them in power, lie and cheat and don’t give a shit about the people that vote for them

Yes misogyny exists in the US but there are far worse countries for that. You think I prefer Trump lol.
Not much of a choice I think Trump had better policies and was better for the economy than Biden was, he did some good things like eliminating the mass immigration of illegals, getting rid of DEI and trying to get Trans men out of women’s sports.

However I never thought he would turn into this raging lunatic that wants to control the world with his insane tariffs, no I never saw that coming even if he did talk about it. I though his advisors would manage to talk him out of that lunacy as he did not go that far in his first Presidency.

Rapist, Hitler, etc… all of this is propaganda like the right saying Biden was a pedo. You seem to take everything the left media shoves down everyone’s throat as gospel and everything the right does as evil incarnate.

I look at both and see lying scumbag assholes in abundance on both sides and neither side it looks like will stop at anything including violence and applauding murder to gain power.
 

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You still haven’t figured out that I am not for the right or the left no matter how many times I repeat that politicians are the most vile creatures on the planet, they will wear what ever hat and colour that will put them in power, lie and cheat and don’t give a shit about the people that vote for them

Yes misogyny exists in the US but there are far worse countries for that. You think I prefer Trump lol.
Not much of a choice I think Trump had better policies and was better for the economy than Biden was, he did some good things like eliminating the mass immigration of illegals, getting rid of DEI and trying to get Trans men out of women’s sports.

However I never thought he would turn into this raging lunatic that wants to control the world with his insane tariffs, no I never saw that coming even if he did talk about it. I though his advisors would manage to talk him out of that lunacy as he did not go that far in his first Presidency.

Rapist, Hitler, etc… all of this is propaganda like the right saying Biden was a pedo. You seem to take everything the left media shoves down everyone’s throat as gospel and everything the right does as evil incarnate.

I look at both and see lying scumbag assholes in abundance on both sides and neither side it looks like will stop at anything including violence and applauding murder to gain power.
I'm also not a fan of any politicians. However - Rape. Politicians suck, rapists are worse, rapist politicians are the worst. Trump has settled many rape allegations out of court and been convicted in civil court of sexual abuse. If you're just going to pretend like that's all made up by the Left, I don't see much point in discussing it. Which is maybe the goal. If you just deny anything I say, you can always be right. I'll provide a link anyways, though I'm sure you'll shrug it off as left-wing propaganda.


Obviously there are worse places in regards to misogyny. Not the point though. That's like saying "You're not allowed to be sad since there's obviously people that have it worse off". I briefly went to therapy and that was one of the first lessons I learned. If you constantly compare your own situation to others, there's always going to be people worse off. That doesn't mean you give up and accept where you are.

If Biden's a pedo, he should go to jail. That seems to be one of the biggest differences between Right and Left (not saying you fit into either camp). When people call for Trump to be prosecuted for being a pedo rapist, the Right responds with "what about Bill Clinton?". I have yet to encounter someone on the Left that only wants Trump dealt with. The general consensus is that all pedos should go to jail, regardless of political affiliation.

You continue to say you're not on either side, yet you prefer Trump over Harris for no apparent reason beyond "she laughs too much and is DEI". If you're picking a rapist over someone that laughs too much and isn't a white man, that's picking sides.
 

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I'm also not a fan of any politicians. However - Rape. Politicians suck, rapists are worse, rapist politicians are the worst. Trump has settled many rape allegations out of court and been convicted in civil court of sexual abuse. If you're just going to pretend like that's all made up by the Left, I don't see much point in discussing it. Which is maybe the goal. If you just deny anything I say, you can always be right. I'll provide a link anyways, though I'm sure you'll shrug it off as left-wing propaganda.


Obviously there are worse places in regards to misogyny. Not the point though. That's like saying "You're not allowed to be sad since there's obviously people that have it worse off". I briefly went to therapy and that was one of the first lessons I learned. If you constantly compare your own situation to others, there's always going to be people worse off. That doesn't mean you give up and accept where you are.

If Biden's a pedo, he should go to jail. That seems to be one of the biggest differences between Right and Left (not saying you fit into either camp). When people call for Trump to be prosecuted for being a pedo rapist, the Right responds with "what about Bill Clinton?". I have yet to encounter someone on the Left that only wants Trump dealt with. The general consensus is that all pedos should go to jail, regardless of political affiliation.

You continue to say you're not on either side, yet you prefer Trump over Harris for no apparent reason beyond "she laughs too much and is DEI". If you're picking a rapist over someone that laughs too much and isn't a white man, that's picking sides.
Why did I prefer Trump over Harris simple.
Trump when he was in office was better for the economy than Biden was. Biden was an incompetent sick old man not suitable to be in office as now even Democrats have no choice but to admit and these scumbag Dems lied through their teeth for over 3 years to cover that fact, these are the people you hold in such high esteem.. Strange you never bring that little tid bit up.

Trump was willing to end mass illegal immigration and he was pro law enforcement. He was going to end DEI and he was going to put an end to all this pronoun bullshit that the left was pushing down everyone’s throat.
Apart from that Harris was flip flopping as the wind was blowing and she didn’t make any sense half the time she spoke.

All this does not mean that I like Trump. I think he is a vile human being and an egotistical asshole.
As far as rape that so far has been alleged and never proven, many rich men and celebrities get accused of rape.
Do I think he is capable of it, yes, did he? well he is innocent until proven guilty and sentenced.

What I did not know is that he would turn into an insane control freak with his tariffs and would want to blackmail and hold the world hostage.
Where we do agree is that all rapists and pedos should go to jail.
 

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Why did I prefer Trump over Harris simple.
Trump when he was in office was better for the economy than Biden was. Biden was an incompetent sick old man not suitable to be in office as now even Democrats have no choice but to admit and these scumbag Dems lied through their teeth for over 3 years to cover that fact, these are the people you hold in such high esteem.. Strange you never bring that little tid bit up.

Trump was willing to end mass illegal immigration and he was pro law enforcement. He was going to end DEI and he was going to put an end to all this pronoun bullshit that the left was pushing down everyone’s throat.
Apart from that Harris was flip flopping as the wind was blowing and she didn’t make any sense half the time she spoke.

All this does not mean that I like Trump. I think he is a vile human being and an egotistical asshole.
As far as rape that so far has been alleged and never proven, many rich men and celebrities get accused of rape.
Do I think he is capable of it, yes, did he? well he is innocent until proven guilty and sentenced.

What I did not know is that he would turn into an insane control freak with his tariffs and would want to blackmail and hold the world hostage.
Where we do agree is that all rapists and pedos should go to jail.
Since 1970, 28 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct. That misconduct ranges from groping to full-on rape. This isn't news, it's been known since before he ever entered politics. Trump said "when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the pussy." That's the person you prefer over a women that laughed too much.

Law enforcement shouldn't include using the military to do police work. Deporting people shouldn't include people in masks, hiding their identity.

All politicians flip-flop, just like how some people eventually change their minds. I would be more worried if they never changed their mind. I used to think anal sex was dumb. That's the poop-shoot, why are you sticking your dick in there? I have since changed my mind.

Many of the rape allegation were settled out of court with payments. Trump sexually abusing Jean Carroll was proven in civil court.

If you don't support Trump, why do you keep defending him? Is Kamala's laugh really so bad that you'd rather have a rapist in charge?
 

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Since 1970, 28 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct. That misconduct ranges from groping to full-on rape. This isn't news, it's been known since before he ever entered politics. Trump said "when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the pussy." That's the person you prefer over a women that laughed too much.

Law enforcement shouldn't include using the military to do police work. Deporting people shouldn't include people in masks, hiding their identity.

All politicians flip-flop, just like how some people eventually change their minds. I would be more worried if they never changed their mind. I used to think anal sex was dumb. That's the poop-shoot, why are you sticking your dick in there? I have since changed my mind.

Many of the rape allegation were settled out of court with payments. Trump sexually abusing Jean Carroll was proven in civil court.

If you don't support Trump, why do you keep defending him? Is Kamala's laugh really so bad that you'd rather have a rapist in charge?
I am not Trumps judge and jury and so far he has not been found guilty of râpe or spent a minute in jail.
I also do not listen to propaganda from the left or the right and believe it to be true. I question both.

I couldn’t care less about Trump if he is a rapist let him rot in jail. But that is for a court and a judge or jury to decide not for you or me.
As far as what he is doing as President.right now, I am one of the ones that cancelled all his trips, vacations to the US and won’t set foot there while he is in power. I can spend my money in Europe just as easily and walk the streets in complete safety in places like Prague, Budapest Warsaw.

That however does not blind me to the fact that the Dems are also scumbags and lied for 3 years about an incompetent sick old man who was supposedly acting as President.
Harris was totally incompetent and it was not just what she said, it is what she didn’t say, she had no policies to talk about and when asked her only answer was that she wouldn’t change anything that Biden did. That comment basically said it all and ended it all for her.

Grab em by the pussy is not exactly rape now is it and believing in women accusing rich men of rape well it must be true lol
Until he is tried, sentenced and in jail he is innocent or is it the left media that decides who is guilty or clients on Merb lol.
 

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I am not Trumps judge and jury and so far he has not been found guilty of râpe or spent a minute in jail.
I also do not listen to propaganda from the left or the right and believe it to be true. I question both.

I couldn’t care less about Trump if he is a rapist let him rot in jail. But that is for a court and a judge or jury to decide not for you or me.
As far as what he is doing as President.right now, I am one of the ones that cancelled all his trips, vacations to the US and won’t set foot there while he is in power. I can spend my money in Europe just as easily and walk the streets in complete safety in places like Prague, Budapest Warsaw.

That however does not blind me to the fact that the Dems are also scumbags and lied for 3 years about an incompetent sick old man who was supposedly acting as President.
Harris was totally incompetent and it was not just what she said, it is what she didn’t say, she had no policies to talk about and when asked her only answer was that she wouldn’t change anything that Biden did. That comment basically said it all and ended it all for her.

Grab em by the pussy is not exactly rape now is it and believing in women accusing rich men of rape well it must be true lol
Until he is tried, sentenced and in jail he is innocent or is it the left media that decides who is guilty or clients on Merb lol.
So you don't believe the 28 women that accused him of sexual harassment? You don't count a civil case where he was found guilty of sexual harassment (rape-lite)? Epstein was never convicted of rape, so I guess he's OK as well. Jimmy Savile never spent time in prison, guess he's innocent. The dozens of priests that abused children never faced justice, guess they're all innocent as well.

I maybe hold politicians to a higher standard than you. One alleged rape is unacceptable. 28 is fucking crazy.
Tell me, how many sexual assault/harassment/rape allegations were there against Harris? Zero? Last time I checked, zero is a lot less than 2fucking8. If even 1 of those allegations is true, that's too many. But hey, she laughed too much. That's much worse than FUCKING RAPING PEOPLE, right?

Harris, the vice-president, stood by her boss. That shouldn't be much of a surprise. Politics is unfortunately a team sport. You don't get ahead by going against the grain.

Grab'em by the pussy isn't rape, but it's definitely sexual harassment/abuse. The fact that people still voted for him after that proves how powerful misogyny still is in Amurica.

Rich/powerful people are not part of the same justice system as you and me. We obviously shouldn't jump to conclusions based on one accusation, but again - TWENTY FUCKING EIGHT allegations.
 

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In my humble opinion Trump should forever be thankful to these people for his second term win…
 

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So you don't believe the 28 women that accused him of sexual harassment? You don't count a civil case where he was found guilty of sexual harassment (rape-lite)? Epstein was never convicted of rape, so I guess he's OK as well. Jimmy Savile never spent time in prison, guess he's innocent. The dozens of priests that abused children never faced justice, guess they're all innocent as well.

I maybe hold politicians to a higher standard than you. One alleged rape is unacceptable. 28 is fucking crazy.
Tell me, how many sexual assault/harassment/rape allegations were there against Harris? Zero? Last time I checked, zero is a lot less than 2fucking8. If even 1 of those allegations is true, that's too many. But hey, she laughed too much. That's much worse than FUCKING RAPING PEOPLE, right?

Harris, the vice-president, stood by her boss. That shouldn't be much of a surprise. Politics is unfortunately a team sport. You don't get ahead by going against the grain.

Grab'em by the pussy isn't rape, but it's definitely sexual harassment/abuse. The fact that people still voted for him after that proves how powerful misogyny still is in Amurica.

Rich/powerful people are not part of the same justice system as you and me. We obviously shouldn't jump to conclusions based on one accusation, but again - TWENTY FUCKING EIGHT allegations.
So 28 women want a settlement of $$$ that is unheard of. Wonder how many accusers he would have if he was penniless.
Like I said if and when he is convicted he can rot in jail.

As far as « grab em by the pussy » if you ever spent time in locker rooms with jocks you will hear shit like that all the time.
It is male boasting and most often from the ones who have the hardest time attracting women. Like all the Merb reviews with multiple orgasms.

You keep going on and on about rape.
He has not been convicted so until he is, he is innocent whether you like it or not regardless of how many capital letters you use.

You are arguing over ridiculous things I am not American I don’t get to vote so Trump is not President with my consent or my vote.

Your hate for this man just overshadows everything else like many Republicans, to me this is ridiculous especially when I consider politicians to be the bottom of the barrel and it definitely includes Trump lol.

Harris had no clew what she was doing or saying she was a DEI idiot. That is why Trump is now President and the fact that the average American was tired of struggling with trying to make a living and being treated like uneducated morons by the Dems.

Say what you want Trump was legally and Democratically elected by the American people so all the Dems bitching and regurgitating the same bullshit is not going to change that. They only have themselves to blame.

He was called everything under the sun and accused of just about everything yet he is still the President. So I guess all the millions of Americans that put him in power disagree with you.




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