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JustBob said:
Americans have a lot of qualities, but being generally curious, interested and informed about what goes on outside their own borders isn't one of them.
Obviously one mans opinion. The US has done more for other countries than all the countries of the world combined. This is fact.

JB, have you ever heard of NAFTA, do you think this is helping the US more than Canada?
 

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Equanimity said:
Actually the US needs our natural resources,

Actually if we could get all of our marxist greens to move to Canada, we would not need any of your natural resources.
 

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of course the tape is edited to make people look even more stupid than they really are. On the other hand, I've lived in the US and I know first hand that there are many (MANY) stupid, uncultured, uneducated people. We have the some problem here in Canada, so I don't think we should feel too superior. Maybe just slightly superior... The main difference is that Canadians (and most other countries outside the US) have a better understanding of the world as a whole and our place in it. Unfortunately, my experience is that most Americans, especially the younger generations, have trouble viewing things in the context of "the world as a whole"... In Montreal the dumbest of the dumb can at least tell you we should invade France from the East, in both English and French, while pointing to Australia on the map and commenting on how much smaller it is than North Korea.

Any we wonder why the chinese are taking over... wake up people!

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Which is basically what I said:

Americans have a lot of qualities, but being generally curious, interested and informed about what goes on outside their own borders isn't one of them.

I've lived in the US and I've been working with Americans for 20 years. That's isn't simply an opinion, that's a fact.
 

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JustBob said:
Which is basically what I said:

Americans have a lot of qualities, but being generally curious, interested and informed about what goes on outside their own borders isn't one of them.

I've lived in the US and I've been working with Americans for 20 years. That's isn't simply an opinion, that's a fact.

That's non-sense. There are a lot of highly intelligent Americans. Most of the inventions of the world come from the US.

The US has 300 million people. Canada has 30 million people. I bet you that the US has 10 times more stupid people than Canada. Does that make Canadians superior? Do the math. :p
 

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That's non-sense. There are a lot of highly intelligent Americans. Most of the inventions of the world come from the US.

The US has 300 million people. Canada has 30 million people. I bet you that the US has 10 times more stupid people than Canada. Does that make Canadians superior? Do the math. :p

Did you even bother reading what I wrote? You must be American, so let me repeat it for you. :p

"Americans have a lot of qualities, but being generally curious, interested and informed about what goes on outside their own borders isn't one of them."

This has little to nothing to do with intelligence or stupidity. The fact is they just don't care much about what goes on outside their own borders. Pick 50 Americans at random on the street and ask them who the Prime Minister of Canada is. I bet you'd be lucky to get 10% good answers. I can't even beging to count the number of odd questions/comments I got from Americans throughout the years, from "do you celebrate Christmas up there?" to "sorry we sent your paycheck to Vancouver, we thought Montreal was IN Vancouver"... And this was from fairly educated people.
 

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JustBob said:
Did you even bother reading what I wrote? You must be American, so let me repeat it for you. :p

"Americans have a lot of qualities, but being generally curious, interested and informed about what goes on outside their own borders isn't one of them."

This has little to nothing to do with intelligence or stupidity. The fact is they just don't care much about what goes on outside their own borders. Pick 50 Americans at random on the street and ask them who the Prime Minister of Canada is. I bet you'd be lucky to get 10% good answers. I can't even beging to count the number of odd questions/comments I got from Americans throughout the years, from "do you celebrate Christmas up there?" to "sorry we sent your paycheck to Vancouver, we thought Montreal was IN Vancouver"... And this was from fairly educated people.

No, it does have to do with intelligence. ... the thread is titled USA – Super Power … but Super Smart?

The yourtube video asks questions like how many sides to a triangle. People did not know. That is stupid.

World affairs and interest in world events, politics is a sign of intelligence. Canadian, US and British governments all rely on well informed voters to vote for responsible government officials. It always doesn't work out for the best, but that is the theory.

Most of the people I work with are not like the people in the video. They are knowledgeable and well informed and can discuss world events because they are interested. Intelligent people are usually well rounded and interested in the world. Just like I think that most of the people on this board are well informed. The people in the video are of the more ignorant and less informed Americans, and yes less intelligent.
 

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I am Canadian but I live in NYC for the majority of my teenage life, so I am not bias toward Canada.

But people does seem a bit more "interested" in Canada. I mean the high school kids in the US are like idiots, here at least they want to know. People are not into gaining knowledge in the US (the mentality); Whereas in most European and Asian countries it's a priority (Music and Sports aren't number 1 there).

Yes, I agree there are highly intelligent people in the US, but that statement itself is sad... "We aren't dumb, there are smart people here !" There are smart people in a village in South Africa. It's the percentage of the population that counts, no one's arguing that "there are no smart people in the US".

EDIT: "Most invention come from US" is a statement of ignorance... It's because the US only KNOW about scientists and inventions from the states. It reinforces their belief that they are the best, while it (the lack of knowledge) actually makes they dumb in the world's eyes. That's the only reason GW Bush gets elected... If Americans don't know where Montreal is, what makes you think their have a decent knowledge of the world's achievements (world outside of US).
 
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The video was funny (I am an American and I admit there are plenty of idiots here), but consider one thing:

Guy comes up with a video camera and asks stupid questions. SOME people make a snap judgment: I can give the right answer and not make the show, or I can be funny and get on TV (and even possibly get a few bucks out of it).

All might not be as it appears, but in actuality I have come across a lot of my fellow Americans who are real dumbbells.
 

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bumfie said:
All might not be as it appears, but in actuality I have come across a lot of my fellow Americans who are real dumbbells.
Yes, they are called liberals.
 

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beautydigger said:
Yes, they are called liberals.
I'll only point out that there are studies that demonstrate the more educated a person is (higher university degrees) the more they stand on the left of the political spectrum.
 

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I'll only point out that there are studies that demonstrate the more educated a person is (higher university degrees) the more they stand on the left of the political spectrum.
And I'll only point out that there are studies that demonstrate that liberalism is a mental disorder.
 

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Agrippa said:
I'll only point out that there are studies that demonstrate the more educated a person is (higher university degrees) the more they stand on the left of the political spectrum.

Right-Wing Heart, Left-Wing Heart
Conservatives More Giving, Liberals More Educated

[...] In 2000, a young liberal was much more likely than a young conservative to possess a college or graduate degree, even after correcting for all other relevant demographic forces. Taken all together, this suggests that the old saying about heads and hearts is actually backwards, when it comes to youth on the modern American left. [...]


LOL :D I am so glad to have stumbled upon this too:
from psychologytoday.com
In 1969, Berkeley professors Jack and Jeanne Block embarked on a study of childhood personality, asking nursery school teachers to rate children's temperaments. They weren't even thinking about political orientation.

Twenty years later, they decided to compare the subjects' childhood personalities with their political preferences as adults. They found arresting patterns. As kids, liberals had developed close relationships with peers and were rated by their teachers as self-reliant, energetic, impulsive, and resilient. People who were conservative at age 23 had been described by their teachers as easily victimized, easily offended, indecisive, fearful, rigid, inhibited, and vulnerable at age 3. The reason for the difference, the Blocks hypothesized, was that insecure kids most needed the reassurance of tradition and authority, and they found it in conservative politics.

more from the same article:

The most comprehensive review of personality and political orientation to date is a 2003 meta-analysis of 88 prior studies involving 22,000 participants. The researchers—John Jost of NYU, Arie Kruglanski of the University of Maryland, and Jack Glaser and Frank Sulloway of Berkeley—found that conservatives have a greater desire to reach a decision quickly and stick to it, and are higher on conscientiousness, which includes neatness, orderliness, duty, and rule-following. Liberals are higher on openness, which includes intellectual curiosity, excitement-seeking, novelty, creativity for its own sake, and a craving for stimulation like travel, color, art, music, and literature.
 
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beautydigger said:
And I'll only point out that there are studies that demonstrate that liberalism is a mental disorder.
Please show me some sources, I need a good laugh...
 

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Sure, BD...liberals are to blame to this hopeless, ridiculous war that has killed more than 3,000 Americans (and that's just the Americans), left tens of thousands wounded and disabled, endangered the stability of the entire planet and left the country economically crippled for what's likely to be decades to come.

Thanks, Bush! Nice job!
 

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bumfie said:
Thanks, Bush! Nice job!
Bush is a prime example of a typical American. Hence his 'success' at the elections (though not lately). Yeah right market forces... no he got what he has because daddy gave it to him. He's not smart enough to have conceived of any of the wars... he wasn't interested or even capable of taking part in any international affairs before 9/11 smacked him in the face. This is the cabal to blame for Iraq: Project for the New American Century
 

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Agrippa said:
Bush is a prime example of a typical American. [/URL]

Feh. There are tens of millions of Americans who would really disagree with you on this one. Ugh. I don't want to be classed with this guy.
 

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bumfie said:
Feh. There are tens of millions of Americans who would really disagree with you on this one. Ugh. I don't want to be classed with this guy.
My apologies. Of course they would disagree, but I was referring to the 'majority'... the 50.7% (62,040,610 voters) that did vote for him in 2004 and 'identified' with him...
 
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