Bizarre thinking is the one that think the government are all righteous like you think. Almost all problems in the world is created by government. Why should citizens give up their weapons for the actions of a few bad ones? Government is never held accountable for anything? The right to bear arms is the right to defend yourself like the right to defend against government tyranny.
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Exactly. Pro-Liberals support communism and want government involved in all aspect of their lives. Look at how Australia took away everyones guns and during covid packed away everyone against their will. The citizens had no defense against government tyranny. I do not think Womaniser thought even one millisecond about what he posted, he lives in a society with some freedom only if he experienced living in China and what Trudeau is wanting to do here.
Guns are only for one purpose to kill, they will not protect you against government.
I can understand a single shot hunting rifle or even a hand gun for protection to be kept at home only and issued upon many security checks including an annual mental health check by a doctor and certainly not to anyone under 21. They have all kinds of checks on people for buying pain killers in a drug store but you can go next door and buy an assault rifle no problem.
There is no reason anyone should own an assault rifle that fires hundreds of rounds in minutes.
Yes we can bring up Australia and compare it to the US I have lived in both and let me tell you Australia is a thousand times safer to live in compared to the US.
The US right now is one fucked up country that is out of control with millions of guns in private hands it is not safe for people sending their kids to school going to an airport or a supermarket. Having these mass shootings on the media for days only results in bringing out more lunatics wanting to make a name for themselves.
Everything there revolves around power and $$$ perhaps this younger generation growing up will have more brains and guts to put a stop to this than we had. Hopefully they will have more to contribute than hope and prayers and condolences like the useless pricks who are governing now who can never put aside their differences, how many more innocent people need to die.
I can understand a single shot hunting rifle or even a hand gun for protection to be kept at home only and issued upon many security checks including an annual mental health check by a doctor and certainly not to anyone under 21. They have all kinds of checks on people for buying pain killers in a drug store but you can go next door and buy an assault rifle no problem.
There is no reason anyone should own an assault rifle that fires hundreds of rounds in minutes.
Yes we can bring up Australia and compare it to the US I have lived in both and let me tell you Australia is a thousand times safer to live in compared to the US.
The US right now is one fucked up country that is out of control with millions of guns in private hands it is not safe for people sending their kids to school going to an airport or a supermarket. Having these mass shootings on the media for days only results in bringing out more lunatics wanting to make a name for themselves.
Everything there revolves around power and $$$ perhaps this younger generation growing up will have more brains and guts to put a stop to this than we had. Hopefully they will have more to contribute than hope and prayers and condolences like the useless pricks who are governing now who can never put aside their differences, how many more innocent people need to die.
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You said one key point, the US is messed up and Australia is much safer then the US. You are right. This fact makes it more important to be armed to protect yourself. Weapons availability is not why there is so many mass shootings in the US, something else is is going on. Punishing law abiding owners makes no sense. 50 years ago gun laws were more lax yet mass shootings in a school were unheard of.
You said one key point, the US is messed up and Australia is much safer then the US. You are right. This fact makes it more important to be armed to protect yourself. Weapons availability is not why there is so many mass shootings in the US, something else is is going on. Punishing law abiding owners makes no sense. 50 years ago gun laws were more lax yet mass shootings in a school were unheard of.
Yes there are other things going on. Hate media is readily available everywhere. Parents both have to work in order to have a half decent living, kids don’t get the same type of love or nurturing, too many nut cases that are easily swayed. Media hype glorifies these nut cases in their eyes and makes them famous.
Politicians can not agree on anything, people are left with choices like Trump and Bidet a horrible human being and ego maniac and a senile old fool.
The country is divided like never before and politicians will not agree on anything simply because they are either a Democrat or Republican never mind what is best for the people.
Bottom line assault rifles and guns just make it all too easy for these lunatics to be able to do these mass shootings.
There should not be any assault rifles in any hands and there is nothing wrong to start law abiding citizens having to go through a yearly mental health test to maintain their guns to start with and to ban assault rifles all over the US. It does however take guts for politicians to forsake the powerful lobbyists and $$$ to do the right thing.
You need to live in the present not what was happening 50 years ago.
Politicians can not agree on anything, people are left with choices like Trump and Bidet a horrible human being and ego maniac and a senile old fool.
The country is divided like never before and politicians will not agree on anything simply because they are either a Democrat or Republican never mind what is best for the people.
Bottom line assault rifles and guns just make it all too easy for these lunatics to be able to do these mass shootings.
There should not be any assault rifles in any hands and there is nothing wrong to start law abiding citizens having to go through a yearly mental health test to maintain their guns to start with and to ban assault rifles all over the US. It does however take guts for politicians to forsake the powerful lobbyists and $$$ to do the right thing.
You need to live in the present not what was happening 50 years ago.
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Agreed with all that you said and about the last sentence, I brought up 50 years ago just to point out that available guns are not the reason for all this increased gun violence. I put the most blame on social media. Since the introduction of social media, I am seeing a lot of bad and weird things.
Agreed with all that you said and about the last sentence, I brought up 50 years ago just to point out that available guns are not the reason for all this increased gun violence. I put the most blame on social media. Since the introduction of social media, I am seeing a lot of bad and weird things.
Let’s face it. Mass shooting is some sort of a suicide as chances of getting out alive after confronted by the police or special force are slim. Why it became popular to commit suicide taking to grave so many innocent people and even kids is a big question. With the modern technology guns are not only weapons that can be used. It can be done and was done with cars, planes, explosives, poisonous substances, etc., etc. The list is endless. It only requires troubled mind and commitment.
I agree that social media has a huge part to play in the mess and the division that the US is in.
You nailed it, exactly what I have been saying and you bring up a good point about this being a sort of suicide attempt. Okay you ban assault rifles but those who want to kill will find other means or get assault rifles from the black market. Although I do agree about why would anyone want an assault rifle or any other kind of automatic firearm either for game or for defense? Automatic rifles are used to kill many fast. Having a handgun or shotgun is enough for home defense and for game you tend to use rifles or even a handgun for target practice. That incel who killed a bunch of women in Toronto used a rental van. Do we ban all rental vans?
There were more than 200 mass shooting in USA in 5 months. There are around 25,000 deaths a year in USA. Around 50% are suicide. Nobody use an AR-15 to kill himself. The rest are people killing people. The black market is there anyway. But no 18 years old kid will go on the black market to buy a Rifle. Gangs and the mafia will buy there, not the average Joe who wants to blame others for his own failure. America is a very sick society and you don't allow a sick sociaty to be armed as they are. There are more weapons in America than there are citizens including babies. No citizen need an AR15.
'Give me a break': Acosta reacts to Trump's NRA speech.
Jim Acosta and former Ohio Republican Gov. John Kasich react to former President Donald Trump's speech at the annual NRA convention in Houston just days after a mass shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas.
Faudrait rappeler à certains ici que NOS GOUVERNEMENTS sont DÉMOCRATIQUEMENT élus..lol...à lire certains on est porté à penser qu'ils aimeraient qu'ici au CANADA la vente libre d'armes de tout acabit à tout citoyen soit permise...pour leur permettre de régler
ainsi leur compte avec nos dirigeants tyranniques
.....quel non sens MAIS encore plus....quelle façon délirante et dangereuse de voir les choses.....HEUREUSEMENT que cela ne se produira JAMAIS chez nous.
ainsi leur compte avec nos dirigeants tyranniques
.....quel non sens MAIS encore plus....quelle façon délirante et dangereuse de voir les choses.....HEUREUSEMENT que cela ne se produira JAMAIS chez nous.Unfortunately, law abiding canadian firearm owners are victims of what happen in USA.Faudrait rappeler à certains ici que NOS GOUVERNEMENTS sont DÉMOCRATIQUEMENT élus..lol...à lire certains on est porté à penser qu'ils aimeraient qu'ici au CANADA la vente libre d'armes de tout acabit à tout citoyen soit permise...pour leur permettre de régler
ainsi leur compte avec nos dirigeants tyranniques
Some politicians think Canada is USA and there are as many crazy persons here.
Valerie Plante, Montreal mayor want to ban handguns even though retired police officers all say that the handguns used by street gang members are illegally imported from USA.
Banning handguns will do absolutely nothing good.
Probably not but what good does allowing them do?
Guns kill, period.
I agree banning them will not stop criminals from obtaining guns but luckily criminals usually kill other criminals it is the lunatics that do mass murders. Criminals are too busy trying to gain power and money and an advantage over other criminals.
Why make it so easy for these lunatics to obtain guns, yes they may and can use other means to kill but an assault rifle will always be first choice if it is readily available.
HARRIS today devant les familles éplorées/en morceaux.....'' we will not stand for this''.....bien d'accord MAIS.......avez vous la solution Madame ????.....avec un taux de satisfaction au plancher....et avec assurément la perte du contrôle des 2 Chambres...non MALHEUREUSEMENT Madame...il n"y en aura pas de facile dans ce dossier particulièrement......
Not even halfway through the year and 146 kids (aged 0-11) were killed by guns in the US this year. 518 kids (aged 12-18) also didn't make it to their high school graduation.
www.gunviolencearchive.org
Sorry kids, the Constitution says you gotta die. We haven't had any tyrannical governments try to seize our liberties but it never hurts to be prepared.
Gun Violence Archive
www.gunviolencearchive.org
Sorry kids, the Constitution says you gotta die. We haven't had any tyrannical governments try to seize our liberties but it never hurts to be prepared.
Legally possessing and using handguns in Canada is complicated. It is not USA.
Rarely legally possessed hanguns are used for murders.
Knives and other weapons are used as often for murders in Canada.
Drunk or under the infliuence of drugs or high speed drivers kill more than legal firearm owners.
Should motor vehicules be banned becaused they are responsible for death of innocent persons ?
Should ATV and snowmobiles be banned because they cause the death of hundred persons in Canada ?
They are mostly used for sport not transport or work.
I would rethink what you wrote. A lot of crimes in Canada has been caused by hanguns. Only difference is mass shootings by psychos is not common in Canada but then again the US has ten times the population of Canada so the chances for more crime is proportionally higher including mass shootings by psychos (the US is the center for social media I think there is some relation between that and mental dysfunction). Crimes are usually caused with purpose, there has been a rise of gang violence problems caused by poverty (also caused by government with mass immigration (high population creates more poverty and wealth inequality), excessive taxation, printing too many bills to send money to foreign countries, and victimless crimes like illegal drugs).
www150.statcan.gc.ca
As per this stats it tells all. And also you see how rapidly gun violence has increased but that is normal the population in the big cities has increased exponentially. Population density is directly proportional to crime but many other factors are also involved. A handgun is also a tool and can be used for home defense. If someone breaks into your home how do you expect to defend yourself? In Canada these things are not so urgent as crime rates are much lower here but the way things are going on in the US I would say owning a gun there makes sense and it is ideal for home defense. These are all socioeconomic issues and has to be resolved to curb gun violence. More gun laws will not change a thing. Look at how Prohibition Era worked? Someone mentioned, politicians needs to stop thinking about themselves and their image and to get votes, they are serving the people and for once they should do the right thing (but that is wishful thinking).
Number and percentage of homicide victims, by type of firearm used to commit the homicide, inactive
Number and percentage of homicide victims, by type of firearm used to commit the homicide (total firearms; handgun; rifle or shotgun; fully automatic firearm; sawed-off rifle or shotgun; firearm-like weapons; other firearms, type unknown), Canada, 1974 to 2018.
As per this stats it tells all. And also you see how rapidly gun violence has increased but that is normal the population in the big cities has increased exponentially. Population density is directly proportional to crime but many other factors are also involved. A handgun is also a tool and can be used for home defense. If someone breaks into your home how do you expect to defend yourself? In Canada these things are not so urgent as crime rates are much lower here but the way things are going on in the US I would say owning a gun there makes sense and it is ideal for home defense. These are all socioeconomic issues and has to be resolved to curb gun violence. More gun laws will not change a thing. Look at how Prohibition Era worked? Someone mentioned, politicians needs to stop thinking about themselves and their image and to get votes, they are serving the people and for once they should do the right thing (but that is wishful thinking).
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