What does hobbying look like with a budget of 5k | 10k | 20k per month

[ggyy920904]

I am in my late 20s and I am gainfully employed for my age.

I spend about 2000 per month on this hobby. Every year, I also do 2-3 vacation trips that combine regular tourist activity and sex. While on vacation, I try to cap my spending on the hobby to 1k per week.

I am just curious about what does hobbying look like when one has a budget that is 2x 5x or 10x of mine ?

Anyone who has or had these budgets or knows any friends with similar means, I would like to hear about your experience.
What do you spend it on ? Does hobbying get significantly better or just marginally better ?

Here are things that I imagine I could spend on if I have this sort of budget ....

1. Fuck a top tier US/European porn star ( Think Pornhub rank top 300 caliber ) for 2-5k per session every month.
2. Fuck a top tier Japanese porn star for 6-8k per session every season. ( I am Asian and I grew up watching Japanese porn so I am partial to this..... I actually have the agency contact to book them for the mentioned price but I just can’t foot the bill without spending irresponsibly.....)

3. Arrange private sessions with super hot non-SP that you come across randomly. For example, I just came across two stunning Cam girls ( whose stuff happen to show up on porn hub ) this month.

Lili_jones: https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5be888db2b9a2#1
FirstbornUnicorn:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FappingBuds/comments/g8qb3e

Their optics are superb !.

4. The list goes on ...

 

[bamjay]

Aside from a 'real' PSE with a high end porn star, the main thing that this type of budget opens up is a certain tier of sugar babes (like a real Victoria's Secret model, that sort of thing) that you cannot normally access as a regular guy. A few of those might be found on seeking.com, some of them can be found hanging out at the highest level (i.e. most expensive) of hotel bars, a lot of them you can only meet through existing contacts.

When it comes to escorts, you're probably going to have just as much of an amazing time with a girl from a top Montreal agency like XO or Euphoria as you would with some 1000$/h girl, actually chances are that the Montreal agency girl will be more fun.

Now if you're talking like 100x times your budget, that's a whole different world and this will give you an idea: https://www.economist.com/1843/2020/07/03/the-secret-economics-of-a-vip-party (you can read the article for free, just have to sign up with an email address)

 

[carlb]

It look like a lots of trouble. Believe me. Hobbying cost me about 1 Millions in the last 28 years. I saw girls all over the world, of every price. Did everything, gang bang, swinger club, FKK Duo, trio. Everywhere, Canada, US, Panama, Germany, Las Vegas, etc

Fun and really amazing girl are mostly here in montreal, and you dont need to spend that much. Lots of the high end girl have too many restrictions and think too much of themself

fun start when you get acquainted to a girl that you see more often, but this is the extact time and signal to get out,

I have only seen 5-7 girls more than 1 time. and you can count in 100s of them, close to a thousand. Mercedez in the 90, Sarah Bernard, Maria Star and Bianca they where real fun PSE,

My best advice, stop now, before its too late.

After all that money spent, One of the best I know and still see every month, is right here advertising on this forum

Good luck man, but my advice find another hobby, you're still young

 

[sene5hos]

I'm not spending that much, you're talking about 20k per month and I am talking about less than 20k per year.
But that doesn't prevent me from having an opinion.

During my years of work I had the chance to work with men (doctoral and post-doc students, from all over the world), and everyone told me that I was really blessed to live in Montreal, because here the women were among the most beautiful in the world.

Here when you've paid $500/hr, the majority of them are pornstars, and these pornstars may be the fun for once, because most of them are shallow.
You don't have to spend that much.

If you embark on this cycle you will not be happier, sex for sex gives a feeling of euphoria in the moment, but certainly not in the long term.

I have super satisfied sex, and believe me I'm happy.

 

[ggyy920904]

It wouldn’t look any different than a guy spending far less.

Like food, you hit the basic law of diminishing returns. You simply get full and don’t have a desire to eat again until you are hungry.

It is a relatively wealthy person‘s activity in that ladies at a relatively higher price range are better, but even that has the law of diminishing returns.

The rather standard Merb rate gets you a 9.5 out of 10 lady. Paying an astronomical amount to get a 10 out of 10 doesn’t enhance enjoyment that much. And there really isn’t that much difference when you come in Doggy Style and CIM. You are looking at her hair in both of those positions.

The venues where a guy sees a tremendous number of available ladies at one place are ironically in the lowest cost countries of Germany and Brazil. So if that does something for you, you can go there and pay less. But too much time riding in the aluminum tube to get there is boring.

Most of the time a guy gets bored with spending too much time with an escort, with overnights being the worst. That is the ultimate law of diminishing returns.

And porn stars are iffy by nature. There is a lot of editing and preparation. Plus they think that is standard and are often reluctant to do the same things when the camera isn’t around. Anal is much different in pornography because they often fast and do enemas before the scene. I guess if you pay them enough they might do that for you, but you might be better off with the normal escort who is accustomed to just lubing you back there and can deal with life’s imperfections happening every once in a while.

Based on my experience, I don’t think the number of of ladies at a venue correlates with the price. There are different venues at different price points in every country.

Here are the some of the venues with a large number of ladies but priced at similar or above Montreal agency rate that I have visited. And I love all of them ! LOL

Club Globe (Zurich) http://club-globe.ch/en/
Club Aphro (Zurich) https://www.clubaphrodisia.ch/node/4?language=en
Club Wellcum (Austria) https://wellcum.at/
Club Maria (Bangkok) http://maria-entertainment.com/
Tobita Shinchi (Japan)
list goes on ...

For me, there are every reason to love these venues because of their numerous benefits ! Provided the chance, You should definitely give those places more opportunities to impress yourself !

To name a few of the benefits:

1) You get to see who you will session with in plain sight.
2) You get to interact with the SP ( little flirt/interview session in the club to determine if you click ) in most of the western/European venues.
3) Due to the competition and the need to stand out of the crowd, ladies at these venues put in effort to their dress, hair, makeup to look “Dolled up”. As customers, we are the ones that benefit without additional charge. Too often, I find that the escorts in Canada see client in conditions that are opposite of “Dolled up” ( This is especially bad in Toronto IMHO. Montreal is better but not by much ).
4) At a FKK venue with good facility & food, the all day long ritual of sex -> sun bathing -> eating buffet -> sauna/jacuzzi/swimming -> sex is awesome !
5) There are venue specific benefit that just can’t be easily enjoyed elsewhere. For example, at Club Globe in Zurich, every Tuesday is a public sex day.
You get to walk up to a hot girl and fuck her on the spot in the corridor or on a sofa ! No getting the key and going to the room etc. Just on the spot !. While it is a bit weird to see your favorites get fucked in public , I do enjoy the animal and raw aspect of it, at least once in a while.

 

[minutemenX]

Doc Holiday (where is he now?) used to say that it is plain stupid spending more than $500/month on the hobby and I started to agree with him. At this level it is a real hobby and you are at complete control. Beyond this it starts to be an addiction, takes too much of your emotional energy and time and becomes a substitution for the real life.

 

[charmer_]

Doc Holiday (where is he now?) used to say that it is plain stupid spending more than $500/month on the hobby and I started to agree with him.

Unless you meet face-to-face prior to that (ie. GT, industry party, etc) and she's totally your type in terms of looks, great connection together, etc, then it might be worth it. Also if you've known her prior, and her rates have gone up over the years, but you still want to see her because you don't want to lose that, that'd also be another reason.

Other than those two things though, normally it's a waste of money. My cap is usually $300/hr max.

 

[ggyy920904]

Doc Holiday (where is he now?) used to say that it is plain stupid spending more than $500/month on the hobby and I started to agree with him. At this level it is a real hobby and you are at complete control. Beyond this it starts to be an addiction, takes too much of your emotional energy and time and becomes a substitution for the real life.

Well.. this 500$ addiction line seems rather arbitrary to me..

At 2000$ per month, I am spending less than 15% of my post-tax income. So my wallet doesn’t take much hit.

In all of my encounters, I expend 0 emotional energy .... So I am safe on that front

At my current budget, I get 8 x 1 hr session per month . If I live some where more expensive, say NYC, 2000$ get me 4 or less 1 hr session per month.
On time consumption front, I don’t really see it is at addiction level...

 

[minutemenX]

Well.. this 500$ addiction line seems rather arbitrary to me..

At 2000$ per month, I am spending less than 15% of my post-tax income. So my wallet doesn’t take much hit.

With your level of income (guess $300-400K/year before tax) $2000/month looks reasonable. Though 8 encounters /month probably completely suppress your appetite for civilian partners, which is not good.

 

[bamjay]

Though 8 encounters /month probably completely suppress your appetite for civilian partners, which is not good.

On the other hand, that could also be the reason for doing it... just saying.

 

[Joe.t]

With your level of income (guess $300-400K/year before tax) $2000/month looks reasonable. "Though 8 encounters /month probably completely suppress your appetite for civilian partners, which is not good."

I would add that seeing escorts in general suppresses your appetite for civilian partners, it completely suppressed mine which is not good.

 

[ggyy920904]

For me I have spent this past summer about 10k a month on escorts, most of them where for full days, overnights. and some dinner dates. Other then spending more time with them, if its only sex you want a smaller budget will do just fine at seeing ladies at 200-300 per hr . I hobby every week. I also do alot of 1 hr dates as well.

At this budget, have you thought about going up in the quality dimension instead of quantity ( more hours) ?

For me, encounter with SP ( however gorgeous) longer than 1.5 - 2 hr does nothing for me. I am not interested in any paid time outside of bedroom(even with unlimited budget)

 

[mysiteonly]

At this budget, have you thought about going up in the quality dimension instead of quantity ( more hours) ?

For me, encounter with SP ( however gorgeous) longer than 1.5 - 2 hr does nothing for me. I am not interested in any paid time outside of bedroom(even with unlimited budget)

Oh the quality of the girls are top tier. I enjoy the out of the bedroom time as well. But if we are doing a dinner date. I really need to click with the gal first.

 

[PSEfreak]

If I had the budget to spend 20k/month I'd most likely be dead

 

[sene5hos]

If I had the budget to spend 20k/month I'd most likely be dead

Same thing for me.

 

[ShyMan]

If I had 20K $ to burn monthly, I'd open an escort agency in Montreal.

 

[sene5hos]

If I had 20K $ to burn monthly, I'd open an escort agency in Montreal.

Good idea ShyMan, but not in Montreal, maybe North Shore.

 

[louie]

Oh the quality of the girls are top tier. I enjoy the out of the bedroom time as well. But if we are doing a dinner date. I really need to click with the gal first.

why do you need to click with your paid dates? You’re not dating them. You’re paying them for their time. You’re paying her to like you basically. You should do an experiment and act like a douche with your date and see if she leaves. I’m betting she doesn’t.

 

[stewieberry]

why do you need to click with your paid dates? You’re not dating them. You’re paying them for their time. You’re paying her to like you basically. You should do an experiment and act like a douche with your date and see if she leaves. I’m betting she doesn’t.

Right! I never understood guys that say they need to make sure they are compatible with a SP before booking them. They are paid to make it seem like they like you, it's part of the experience you're inquiring! Chances are if money was not involved she wouldn't like you in the slightest . She's not a potential girlfriend. it's just a paid transaction where the providers pretends a physical and emotional connection for their clients. How could you pay for such a service and then worry that she might not like you or that the connection you have is not genuine. Of course it's not! and of course she is going to act like it is, It's literally her job!

 

[chowzilla]

I like it
it builds anticipation
its like playing with your food
some guys miss the companionship portion of a relationship as well.
As long as they don't fall in love. its all kosher.

sall good everyone is here for many different reasons.