What is the worst experience you ever had with an sp? Where you compensated

[Doc Holliday]

Thanks for the war story....it looks like you got a better deal for 1-h than I did for 2-h! I looked at my notes...it's "Emely"...I just found my notes said I only got 1 SOG...she has big tits and tight pussy but hated her job and hated the johns.

I now believe that we’re referring to two entirely different Emelys. The one i was referring to was the first Emely who had been with the agency pretty much since day 1. She absolutely did not have ‘big tits’. She had a b-cup at best. But after she retired to move to the States in the fall of 2006 she was replaced with a different Emely who had huge tits. I mean…huge! I never got to see her since she wasn’t around for very long or wasn’t available when i’d happen to be in town. I recall not believing my eyes when i first saw her pictures & although i had never been a boobs man she definitely was one to be seen for her boobs alone. She must have ended up with a chronic sore back having to always carry those!

He would post his potential girls in the members only area.

I remember that private site. I was under the impression that the girls were aware of it & had given their permission to post their pics showing their faces in it. But no! I remember seeing one of his girls one night & she was telling me that she had found out about it from a client. And she was steaming! And when i told her that i was also quite aware of that private members site also & confirmed that she hadn’t heard wrong from the other client holy shit! I thought she was about to have a stroke! By the way i also thought it was incredibly wrong of him to post pictures…especially facial pictures…without their consent. If i’d be in their shoes i’d be extremely pissed off also! So I didn’t mind when she & other girls confronted him about it & put an end to the ‘members’ site. No wonder so many of the girls hated him so much. Sure there is that girl from Ontario that he had hired who wouldn’t stop raving & talking about him…i always suspected that there was more to just a business relationship between the two which was later confirmed…but it became rarer & rarer…especially at the end…to hear a girl say anything nice about him. When he first went off the grid (i had heard for legal reasons) which eventually led to the end of this great agency one of his girls that i saw (i think some guy named Joe was by then helping him out with the agency) told me that they hadn’t heard from him for weeks & that if he never reappeared it would be fine by her & shocked me when she added “i hope they find this fucker wrapped up in a sleeping bag at the bottom of the St-Lawrence!” I just looked at her and said “wow, that’s a bit severe, don’t you think?” She replied “sorry but i hate that fucker so much!” lol

 

[Stroker7]

I now believe that we’re referring to two entirely different Emelys. The one i was referring to was the first Emely who had been with the agency pretty much since day 1. She absolutely did not have ‘big tits’. She had a b-cup at best. But after she retired to move to the States in the fall of 2006 she was replaced with a different Emely who had huge tits. I mean…huge! I never got to see her since she wasn’t around for very long or wasn’t available when i’d happen to be in town. I recall not believing my eyes when i first saw her pictures & although i had never been a boobs man she definitely was one to be seen for her boobs alone. She must have ended up with a chronic sore back having to always carry those!

I remember that private site. I was under the impression that the girls were aware of it & had given their permission to post their pics showing their faces in it. But no! I remember seeing one of his girls one night & she was telling me that she had found out about it from a client. And she was steaming! And when i told her that i was also quite aware of that private members site also & confirmed that she hadn’t heard wrong from the other client holy shit! I thought she was about to have a stroke! By the way i also thought it was incredibly wrong of him to post pictures…especially facial pictures…without their consent. If i’d be in their shoes i’d be extremely pissed off also! So I didn’t mind when she & other girls confronted him about it & put an end to the ‘members’ site. No wonder so many of the girls hated him so much. Sure there is that girl from Ontario that he had hired who wouldn’t stop raving & talking about him…i always suspected that there was more to just a business relationship between the two which was later confirmed…but it became rarer & rarer…especially at the end…to hear a girl say anything nice about him. When he first went off the grid (i had heard for legal reasons) which eventually led to the end of this great agency one of his girls that i saw (i think some guy named Joe was by then helping him out with the agency) told me that they hadn’t heard from him for weeks & that if he never reappeared it would be fine by her & shocked me when she added “i hope they find this fucker wrapped up in a sleeping bag at the bottom of the St-Lawrence!” I just looked at her and said “wow, that’s a bit severe, don’t you think?” She replied “sorry but i hate that fucker so much!” lol

I was a fan of Emely' s as well, Doc. Cute, sexy and smart. I remember her telling me about a client she met in Mtl. There was talk of her leaving to the States for school, but more so for the client she met from the agency. I remember one of the girls I saw at the agency (Nicole from eleganza) at that time, met this client as well and I asked her if he looked a bit like Richard Gere which Emely mentioned about his looks.She said she didn't see the resemblance, lol. She said he wanted her to help with his kids as a "nanny" so it's anybody's guess as to what really happened. I highly doubt that relationship ever worked out, but I hope Emely is doing well, wherever she is. I miss Eleganza. They had some incredible ladies on they're roster

 

[malboro_man]

I now believe that we’re referring to two entirely different Emelys. The one i was referring to was the first Emely who had been with the agency pretty much since day 1. She absolutely did not have ‘big tits’. She had a b-cup at best. But after she retired to move to the States in the fall of 2006 she was replaced with a different Emely who had huge tits. I mean…huge! I never got to see her since she wasn’t around for very long or wasn’t available when i’d happen to be in town. I recall not believing my eyes when i first saw her pictures & although i had never been a boobs man she definitely was one to be seen for her boobs alone. She must have ended up with a chronic sore back having to always carry those!

I looked at the pics I saved on the Internet...she was 19-20, 5'4" B cup...I must have thought her boobies were larger than implied by her pics. She started in Feb 2006 and I saw her in May 2006. We are talking about the same person.

I remember that private site. I was under the impression that the girls were aware of it & had given their permission to post their pics showing their faces in it. But no! I remember seeing one of his girls one night & she was telling me that she had found out about it from a client. And she was steaming!

John E later blurred out the faces but initially the faces were not blurred. There is no agency owner like John E before John E and there will likely be no agency owner like John E after John E!

 

[Doc Holliday]

I was a fan of Emely' s as well, Doc. Cute, sexy and smart. I remember her telling me about a client she met in Mtl. There was talk of her leaving to the States for school, but more so for the client she met from the agency. I remember one of the girls I saw at the agency (Nicole from eleganza) at that time, met this client as well and I asked her if he looked a bit like Richard Gere which Emely mentioned about his looks.She said she didn't see the resemblance, lol. She said he wanted her to help with his kids as a "nanny" so it's anybody's guess as to what really happened. I highly doubt that relationship ever worked out, but I hope Emely is doing well, wherever she is.

You’re correct. She did move to the States to be some type of nanny for that guy’s kids. I always figured there was also a relationship involved but maybe not. The last time i saw her she asked me to have lunch with her on the following day. I told her that i was flying out the next day. She then offered breakfast in Old Mtl. But i was flying out early in the morning. So i took a rain cheque and we had planned to meet for lunch or dinner when i’d be back in a few weeks. The reason for her asking to meet up socially was that she had a lot of personal stuff going on at the time & needed my advice about some things. Well she never returned my emails and was retired by the time i got back. I later heard from a reliable source about her abrupt move to the States to live with that client & his kids.

Things didn’t work out & she returned to the Mtl area a year or two later. She contemplated returning to the biz but from what i was told changed her mind on the same day she was about to make her comeback.

 

[envelopes]

Thanks for the war story....it looks like you got a better deal for 1-h than I did for 2-h! I looked at my notes...it's "Emely"...I just found my notes said I only got 1 SOG...she has big tits and tight pussy but hated her job and hated the johns. Well, John Eleganza banged any of the girls who would bang him. It's the perk of being the boss. He would post his potential girls in the members only area. One time, he found a 19 y.o. babe in Ontario but decided to keep her for himself rather than letting all of Montreal bang her LOL.

I didn't know Emely was one of the many girlfriends under John's rotation.

She had good review before she turned to the dark side.

I always wondered how agency owners found girls. Do they just meet a girl, hook up with them, then straight up ask if they want to be an escort? Man, that takes some balls lol

I always fantasized about starting an agency since it seems like fun (but very illegal in the US lol), but I don't have the balls to ask a non-SP if she wants to be an escort.

I now believe that we’re referring to two entirely different Emelys. The one i was referring to was the first Emely who had been with the agency pretty much since day 1. She absolutely did not have ‘big tits’. She had a b-cup at best. But after she retired to move to the States in the fall of 2006 she was replaced with a different Emely who had huge tits. I mean…huge! I never got to see her since she wasn’t around for very long or wasn’t available when i’d happen to be in town. I recall not believing my eyes when i first saw her pictures & although i had never been a boobs man she definitely was one to be seen for her boobs alone. She must have ended up with a chronic sore back having to always carry those!

I remember that private site. I was under the impression that the girls were aware of it & had given their permission to post their pics showing their faces in it. But no! I remember seeing one of his girls one night & she was telling me that she had found out about it from a client. And she was steaming! And when i told her that i was also quite aware of that private members site also & confirmed that she hadn’t heard wrong from the other client holy shit! I thought she was about to have a stroke! By the way i also thought it was incredibly wrong of him to post pictures…especially facial pictures…without their consent. If i’d be in their shoes i’d be extremely pissed off also! So I didn’t mind when she & other girls confronted him about it & put an end to the ‘members’ site. No wonder so many of the girls hated him so much. Sure there is that girl from Ontario that he had hired who wouldn’t stop raving & talking about him…i always suspected that there was more to just a business relationship between the two which was later confirmed…but it became rarer & rarer…especially at the end…to hear a girl say anything nice about him. When he first went off the grid (i had heard for legal reasons) which eventually led to the end of this great agency one of his girls that i saw (i think some guy named Joe was by then helping him out with the agency) told me that they hadn’t heard from him for weeks & that if he never reappeared it would be fine by her & shocked me when she added “i hope they find this fucker wrapped up in a sleeping bag at the bottom of the St-Lawrence!” I just looked at her and said “wow, that’s a bit severe, don’t you think?” She replied “sorry but i hate that fucker so much!” lol

I wish I was in Montreal for all this, I've heard so much about Eleganza and all the great SPs there but unfortunately, before my time

 

[malboro_man]

I always wondered how agency owners found girls. Do they just meet a girl, hook up with them, then straight up ask if they want to be an escort? Man, that takes some balls lol

From what I've heard and seen, John E recruited from placing ads in the newspaper, hitting up girls in clubs, restaurants, and cafes or have girls introducing their friends and in once case her sister LOL

I always fantasized about starting an agency since it seems like fun (but very illegal in the US lol), but I don't have the balls to ask a non-SP if she wants to be an escort.

Most of the US agencies took big hits in late 2000s and early 2010s, including the famous Aphrodite in NYC. I don't see too many US agencies around since then. Also alot of the US girls have gone to the sugar bowl. To them, it resembles less of the P-word. It's hard to find a pro 18-22.

I wish I was in Montreal for all this, I've heard so much about Eleganza and all the great SPs there but unfortunately, before my time

Eleganza was the greatest between 2005-2009! I am sorry it was before your time!

 

[Doc Holliday]

I looked at the pics I saved on the Internet...she was 19-20, 5'4" B cup...I must have thought her boobies were larger than implied by her pics. She started in Feb 2006 and I saw her in May 2006. We are talking about the same person.

Were they her last set of pics where she’s in the black lingerie & wearing leather fuck me boots? Those were hot!

 

[malboro_man]

Were they her last set of pics where she’s in the black lingerie & wearing leather fuck me boots? Those were hot!

Yup, those are the ones...with her in a black V-string at John E's home (you know all the pics were taken at John E's home LOL).

 

[Doc Holliday]

Yup, those are the ones...with her in a black V-string at John E's home (you know all the pics were taken at John E's home LOL).

Yes. The ones with Emely were taken in his basement rec room, if i recall. John loved playing photographer & I couldn’t blame him. I once met one of his girls who also happened to be a professional photographer. She told me that she had offered him to take pictures for him & he had refused, preferring to act as the agency’s lone photographer, even if he was an amateur. She was surprised at being turned down considering that she was a professional & he wasn’t. I chuckled & told her that although i was certain that her own pictures would turn out great i kind of understood why he preferred to remain in his position as the agency’s lone picture taker. That was one of the many perks of the ‘job’, i told her. Plus he was quite aware that customers loved his style of pictures. No bullshit, no photoshop or retouches. The pictures were always a good indication of whom would be showing up at your door & often the girls looked even better in person than in the pictures, which was a bonus. These days most of the time it’s the opposite.

 

[Numerati]

I always wondered how agency owners found girls. Do they just meet a girl, hook up with them, then straight up ask if they want to be an escort? Man, that takes some balls lol

I always fantasized about starting an agency since it seems like fun (but very illegal in the US lol), but I don't have the balls to ask a non-SP if she wants to be an escort.



I wish I was in Montreal for all this, I've heard so much about Eleganza and all the great SPs there but unfortunately, before my time

One place well website where to find and recruit girls is Model Mayhem. From what I know and told I-N/MGF now Your French Lady frequents that site to fill their roster. Don't know about now though as the last time I use them was in 2011. With Eleganza many times the girls would go to John himself or get introduced by the girls already working there. When I was using that agency the girls spoke very highly of John. Well that was from 2007 to 2008 for me.

From 2001/2002 to around 2010 the Montreal hobby scene is pretty top notch. Still is today but not as memorable as back then. This is before all that social media crap that permeated and polluted male/female dynamics. Also not to forget from 2001 to around 2005 the USD/CAD exchange rate was AWESOME along with the "cheap" prices. The HDH market was running in full swing. Back then a 4 hour dinner engagement was $700 to $800 CAD so that came out to $500 USD on average.

Eleganza was one of a kind. I didn't meet as many of the girls the guys in here did but when I did they were very memorable. Also XXXtase was up there as well when Martin was running the show. I didn't use them but I have heard great stories and recommendations. Devilish was another one and its offshoot I forgot the name.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Eleganza was one of a kind. I didn't meet as many of the girls the guys in here did but when I did they were very memorable. Also XXXtase was up there as well when Martin was running the show. I didn't use them but I have heard great stories and recommendations. Devilish was another one and its offshoot I forgot the name.

I agree. The hobby has never really recovered since Eleganza left the scene. Same thing with Xxxtase since Martin left the agency. Asservissante was also a heck of a great agency at one time although Martin sometimes had a tendency to oversell some of his more ordinary girls. But both Martins were fantastic to deal with. I also met some gems at Dangerous Curves/Devilish/Girls on Fire when ‘Chris’ ran those agencies however the ladies were rarely on time & patience was definitely a virtue when dealing with them. But more often than not the wait was well worth it.

 

[Numerati]

Yeah Girls On Fire. That is the name! That was where I first met Chloe Milan when she just first entered the hobby and only been around for a few months. This was in October 2008. Yeah Chris ran things very well. I remember Billy was there too and he was cool to deal with. Great customer service.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I saw Chloe in October 2008 and I can remember it historically for one reason and one reason only: I was watching the Obama-McCain debate when she arrived at my hotel room, which was at the Hyatt at Complex Dejardins which I think is now a Doubletree. Nothing else in my mind stands out about our meeting, although I had the TV on and we briefly discussed the debate. I later ended up voting for Obama in that 2008 Presidential election about a month later, although I did not vote for him again in 2012.

 

[SStriker]

Couple years back, I found ads of a shady agency in Laval. Unfortunately it was very late at night and I was in need… really in need.

fuck off merb
Fuck off reviews

contact them and set appointment in their Incall.

Residential areas, I was asked to knock and enter the apartment. I proceed. I heard the girl telling me to come up second floor.

Saw that all windows were blocked by sheets… felt uncomfortable but went on the second floor… I needed itttt

girl wasn’t as pictured but not bad at all.. kinda young tho…
There was 2-3 bedrooms and I was hearing customers fucking pretty hard other SP..

i entered the room.
Mattress was on the floor
Window blocked by a sheet
Purse and clothes bag in the corner of the room
The girl seems destroyed mentaly and physically… her feet were dirty and clothes were not that fresh…
I asked the girl if I could go refresh myself and she replied she doesn’t care if I’m not fresh…
She seemed shy, she seemed stoned, she seemed like she didn’t want to be there

Shit pop up in my head and I asked her quietly how old she was and told me under 18

i gave her the money and just left the place fast and furious

i was totally shocked and I think I stopped hobby for several months… I felt in a real pimp trapped with girls who probably didn’t want to be there

Stick to merb folks
Stick to the board and reviews

 

[Skym]

My session with Veronique Tinkler like a month ago was one of the worst sessions of all time...also the shortest session of all time! 10 minutes...got sucked off like 10 seconds and that was it!

No sex, no cumming, no nothing lol.

Spending all that money to see her for that? It was such a stinging disappointment and of great regret.

That session will go down in my Hall of Fame for worst sessions lol.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Couple years back, I found ads of a shady agency in Laval.

Shit pop up in my head and I asked her quietly how old she was and told me under 18

i gave her the money and just left the place fast and furious

i was totally shocked and I think I stopped hobby for several months… I felt in a real pimp trapped with girls who probably didn’t want to be there

Stick to merb folks
Stick to the board and reviews

I understand paying for the sake of avoiding dangerous situation, but did you at least tried to contact the cops? I mean not touching her is the first step on the good side but since you clearly knew she was underrage/trafficked, you should had told the cops. At least trough an anonymous phone call. Pretty sure they take these things seriously enough to go check. I just wouldn't be able to live with myself if i ended up in a situation like this and not doing something.

My session with Veronique Tinkler like a month ago was one of the worst sessions of all time...

No sex, no cumming, no nothing lol.



That session will go down in my Hall of Fame for worst sessions lol.

This is pretty unusual from Euphoria. Did you contact them? Were you compensated? Ill have to look her thread if you made a review to see more but its weird to read this as Euphoria's reputation is pretty high and Veronique Tinkler seem like a cool gal from the podcast i seen her in. I mean knowing you a bit (from the board) im pretty sure the issue was not hygiene or attitude.